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CurseoftheGods said:
If the screen is bigger won't that make the resolution seem worse if it's not changed?
I think so. I also think it'll be weird that buttons will suddenly become enlarged by nearly 30%. We'll see though...
 
Having some issues getting a wallpaper on to my iPhone 4. Every time I save the image from Safari or the mail client it only saves a low quality thumbnail.

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Halp =[
 
LCfiner said:
I realized that this is the longest I've ever head onto a single version of an iPhone. where's my 12 month fix, Apple? hhhnnnngggggg


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:((((

Btw. can anyone tell me how those Apple shows worked back then? Have they just said "Well, we're doing a conference next week!"?
 
LyleLanley said:
Haven't all the previous iPhones been announced at WWDC though?

Right. Sorry, I was mainly thinking about previous iPad or iPod launches. Yeah, iPhone has traditionally been released at WWDC. Not sure about the first iPhone, though.
 
Shrinnan said:
Wait, there's a rumor that there's not going to be a home button?
yeah that rumors been around for awhile. some devs went through iOS5 SDK kit and saw that gestures could possibly replace the home button
 
tehbible said:
yeah that rumors been around for awhile. some devs went through iOS5 SDK kit and saw that gestures could possibly replace the home button

I can see there being no buttons on the iPad 3, and while I wouldn't mind Apple getting rid of the buttons on the iPhone/iPod Touch, I think that's less likely.

Edit: That was a cool video by the way, thanks for sharing!
 
there are gestures, yes. they are for the ipad only and they are nice shortcuts. but they are only shortcuts.

they can’t replace the home button because who is gonna explain to your mom that you gotta "pinch in" with 4 fingers to get back home from an app?

the button is obvious. the button is approachable and the button is not going away.
 
LyleLanley said:
Wasn't there a rumor that they were going to replace the button with a touch sensitive gesture area?
More of my prediction for the iPad.
 
tehbible said:
yeah that rumors been around for awhile. some devs went through iOS5 SDK kit and saw that gestures could possibly replace the home button
not sure if want, but considering the problem folks have with their home buttons, it wouldn't be too outlandish.
 
That rumor roundup video was exceptional. Really made me look forward to the iPhone 5, especially because I'm still rocking the 3GS. I need a new phone!
 
I will be sticking with my iPhone 4 since it still feels new to me. After using the iPhone 2G for 3 years 1 year of the iPhone 4 is going to feel fresh for awhile.
 
3N16MA said:
I will be sticking with my iPhone 4 since it still feels new to me. After using the iPhone 2G for 3 years 1 year of the iPhone 4 is going to feel fresh for awhile.
This. The iPhone 4 is the first smartphone I've ever owned. It's fantastic. And with iOS 5 coming out I'm sure that will help keep the experience fresh for a while.
 
giga said:
AllThingsD reiterates that it'll be October: http://allthingsd.com/20110812/octo...after-me-apple-iphone-5-to-launch-in-october/

At this point, I think they just want iCloud to be ready to launch at the same time.

Also, Kara Swisher is an asshole.

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Damn that's... unexpected. If the iPhone4 weren't still the best selling phone model on the planet we'd be shitting all over Apple for being late to the market. Aren't the new Android Ice Cream Sandwich phones supposed to launch in October as well? That's close enough to steal Apple's thunder.
 
wow I hope it launches around the end of September just so that lady can look like an idiot. She really seemed like a jerk there..
 
Greyface said:
Damn that's... unexpected. If the iPhone4 weren't still the best selling phone model on the planet we'd be shitting all over Apple for being late to the market. Aren't the new Android Ice Cream Sandwich phones supposed to launch in October as well? That's close enough to steal Apple's thunder.

I think we both know that’s not going to happen. in terms of press attention, it’ll be be iPhone all the way. Hopefully Apple backs that up with hardware that warrants the attention
 
LCfiner said:
I think we both know that’s not going to happen. in terms of press attention, it’ll be be iPhone all the way. Hopefully Apple backs that up with hardware that warrants the attention
Android will piggyback on the press attention surrounding the iPhone. The media love a narrative with two competing sides and the coverage of the conflict practically scripts itself. Based on the rumors we've heard so far it's likely that the Android handsets will be clearly ahead of the iPhone in one important metric (the Android's retina SAMOLED 4.5" screens versus the iPhone's retina LCD 3.5"/3.8"/4.0" screen). The Android phones might come off looking better for once.
 
I think Apple will be going all out with this one. Probably used the extra time to plan the (finally coming) cheaper iPhone, and a totally redesigned iPhone 5 (kind of like the pro model), and also making sure iOS5 and iCloud is working flawlessly or close to it.
 
Can anybody walk me through the process of switching my Iphone to my new laptop. I thought I would get a notification to switch when I plugged it into my new laptop but no such thing occurred. Any pointers?
 
Greyface said:
Android will piggyback on the press attention surrounding the iPhone. The media love a narrative with two competing sides and the coverage of the conflict practically scripts itself. Based on the rumors we've heard so far it's likely that the Android handsets will be clearly ahead of the iPhone in one important metric (the Android's retina SAMOLED 4.5" screens versus the iPhone's retina LCD 3.5"/3.8"/4.0" screen). The Android phones might come off looking better for once.
Unless you're talking about the tech media, there's just going to be 1-2 minute spots in the local news reports of the long lines at local Apple Stores--and that is what writes itself.
 
Spider from Mars said:
Can anybody walk me through the process of switching my Iphone to my new laptop. I thought I would get a notification to switch when I plugged it into my new laptop but no such thing occurred. Any pointers?
Is anybody a bad enough dude to rescue me from my torment?
 
numble said:
Unless you're talking about the tech media, there's just going to be 1-2 minute spots in the local news reports of the long lines at local Apple Stores--and that is what writes itself.
Perhaps, but in that one minute spot the local news report will still spare a sentence or two for the competition. However, the launch day nightly news coverage pales in comparison to the half hour report on CNN, the lengthy articles in the WSJ and the New Yorker, the segment on The Daily Show and the other numerous pop culture pundits who'll care to comment. Of course the new iPhone will be the launching pad for the conversation but any worthy Android competitors will be discussed as well.

Unless Apple reinvents the industry

-Pyromaniac- said:
I think Apple will be going all out with this one. Probably used the extra time to plan the (finally coming) cheaper iPhone, and a totally redesigned iPhone 5 (kind of like the pro model), and also making sure iOS5 and iCloud is working flawlessly or close to it.
It's hard to gauge what 'going all out' would look like. The specs mentioned in the WSJ leak (A5 chip, dual gsm/cdma chip, 8 mp camera) seem par for the course. The redesigned iPhone will be thinner and lighter with perhaps a few flourishes (buttons, led notifier bah). We can already guess which feature is reserved for the next iPhone (digital assistant via voice controls i.e. nothing revolutionary). The cheaper iPhone will be an improved iPod 4G/mangled iPhone4; the iPhone 4 will still be available at a higher price after all...

I'd say 'going all out' would be major changes to the iOS ecosystem. Say 4 or 5 new iPhone models covering every segment of the market. Or Apple branching out as a MVNO. Maybe an iPad 3G nano (< 4.5" and only does data i.e. voip and imessage). Perhaps NFC chips in all models (and Apple taking 30% of all transactions :P). Any of those would be revolutionary. Anything else is merely Apple keeping pace with Android.

Spider from Mars said:
Is anybody a bad enough dude to rescue me from my torment?
Did you open iTunes and attempt to sync?

it's friday night dude... the eve before soccer returns ;)
 
Greyface said:
Perhaps, but in that one minute spot the local news report will still spare a sentence or two for the competition. However, the launch day nightly news coverage pales in comparison to the half hour report on CNN, the lengthy articles in the WSJ and the New Yorker, the segment on The Daily Show and the other numerous pop culture pundits who'll care to comment. Of course the new iPhone will be the launching pad for the conversation but any worthy Android competitors will be discussed as well.

Unless Apple reinvents the industry
You're living in a different world, Charred. Local news coverage is big throughout America. WSJ and the New Yorker reach about 3 million people total. Daily Show and CNN reach a similar amount (maybe about 4 million total). 54% of people who say they get their news from TV get it from local news.
 
mojiimbo said:
If you're on Windows and don't mind doing some work.

http://www.corsino.com/blog/?page_id=27
I could do that, but since my old laptop is dead and gone, I just want to move ownership to the new one. There has to be a simpler way...right? I just want to know how to get to the menu option that allows me to merge my phone to the new computer. I don't care if I lose whats already in my phone's library since its just old podcasts.
 
numble said:
You're living in a different world, Charred. Local news coverage is big throughout America. WSJ and the New Yorker reach about 3 million people total. Daily Show and CNN reach a similar amount (maybe about 4 million total). 54% of people who say they get their news from TV get it from local news.
Er, that's a report from 2006. Times change you know. Which is besides the point; smartphones releases are pop culture events now, not just simply 'news items' and the 2 minute coverage of lines in the local news is going to be augmented in the public's consciousness by the discussion on Entertainment Weekly, The Daily Show, The View and so on. Nobody only watches the local nightly news and other sources will devote more time to it.
 
So when the 5 launches, the 4 will take the place of the 3GS as the cheap entry model right? Or is the 5-Mini supposed to be the entry model if rumors is to be believed?

In any case, if the 4 becomes the new 3GS, would that mean a similar price point, or will they still demand a premium for it when the time comes?
 
Greyface said:
Er, that's a report from 2006. Times change you know. Which is besides the point; smartphones releases are pop culture events now, not just simply 'news items' and the 2 minute coverage of lines in the local news is going to be augmented in the public's consciousness by the discussion on Entertainment Weekly, The Daily Show, The View and so on. Nobody only watches the local nightly news and other sources will devote more time to it.
Your report shows that there was growth in people that get their national and international news from local TV news compared to 2006?

The problem is you're citing a survey that asks people questions about "national and international news" which of course skews away from local news because local news is mostly about local news. Looking at total viewership is much more important (Once again, as all 3 surveys are, from Pew). I may watch local news everyday, but if a survey called and asked me where I mostly got my international news from, I will not cite my local TV news.

I still think you're living in a different world if you think Entertainment Weekly, The Daily Show, and The View are now covering the smartphone releases as pop culture events. Maybe for the iPhone, but not the others that release every 3 months or so. I don't even think most tech sites gives most new smartphones much attention aside from a preview and a review.
 
numble said:
Your report shows that there was growth in people that get their national and international news from local TV news compared to 2006?

The problem is you're citing a survey that asks people questions about "national and international news" which of course skews away from local news because local news is mostly about local news. Looking at total viewership is much more important. I may watch local news everyday, but if a survey called and asked me where I mostly got my international news from, I will not cite my local TV news.
And you're problem is that you're assuming that people will only hear about smartphones from the local news. I disagree, what's so hard to understand?

numble said:
I still think you're living in a different world if you think Entertainment Weekly, The Daily Show, and The View are now covering the smartphone releases as pop culture events. Maybe for the iPhone, but not the others that release every 3 months or so. I don't even think most tech sites gives most new smartphones much attention aside from a preview and a review.
Which is exactly what I said, the iPhone will be well covered and Android phones will be mentioned as well in comparison.
 
Greyface said:
And you're problem is that you're assuming that people will only hear about smartphones from the local news. I disagree, what's so hard to understand?


Which is exactly what I said, the iPhone will be well covered and Android phones will be mentioned as well in comparison.
I never said that they'll only hear from the local news, I dispute your claim that the effect of coverage on the local news will be overshadowed by WSJ, New Yorker, Daily Show, and CNN coverage.

CNN is the only highly viewed source among them, and it still pales in comparison to the viewership of local news. WSJ is the 2nd highest on your list, and it only barely breaks 2 million.

When the iPhone launches, the local news will be filled with the stories of people camping over night, the interviews with people in line, and the shots of the first buyers getting their iPhones while the line and staff cheer.

I'm not a part of the "local news" watching crowd, but that is just how it works. The iPad 2 launch was not piggybacked by Xoom, Playbook and TouchPad comparisons either (except on tech sites that like to make comparison charts).
 
LCfiner said:
there are gestures, yes. they are for the ipad only and they are nice shortcuts. but they are only shortcuts.

they can’t replace the home button because who is gonna explain to your mom that you gotta "pinch in" with 4 fingers to get back home from an app?

the button is obvious. the button is approachable and the button is not going away.

I've got a friend who's quite a prominent shareholder, he's see the concept design for iPhone 5 and from what I've gotten out of him, there will be no home push button It's going to be a wider touch sensitive 'button' which you swipe to unlock the phone.

Plus thinner design, wider screen, etc etc
 
numble said:
I never said that they'll only hear from the local news, I dispute your claim that the effect of coverage on the local news will be overshadowed by WSJ, New Yorker, Daily Show, and CNN coverage.

CNN is the only highly viewed source among them, and it still pales in comparison to the viewership of local news. WSJ is the 2nd highest on your list, and it only barely breaks 2 million.
You're confusing sustained readership with casual readership. After every iPhone launch there is a huge spike in people searching various news sources for information. Of course the 2 minute light coverage on the local news of lines outside a store is going to be overshadowed by more in-depth coverage elsewhere.

Edit: Here's an example of the coverage of the iPhone4 on ABC from last year.
 
Just got off the phone with an ATT representative, told me to wait off for the iphone 5 which will be announced soon and that the iphone 4 price would be lowered.

I guess this is already known though.
 
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