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[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

You say "trained," but you've also been trained that buttons stay doing what they're supposed to do all the time, no matter what happens on the screen or if you have your keyboard upside down or whatever. I think you're stretching.

 

[dyls]

Is there a way to turn off the noise-canceling mic while using a headset? I was talking while driving yesterday with the phone sitting in the middle compartment, and I noticed a lot of extraneous noise. I picked it up and realized that the phone mic was picking up engine noise (and perhaps trying to cancel it?) which was mixing in with my voice. I had to either hold the phone or put it in my lap (where it promptly slid off onto the floor) to silence it. And even then, I would hear a very quick and slight echo effect as the secondary mic picked up my voice slightly after the main headset mic. It made my voice sound very robotic.

Any good way of dealing with this? I love the noise-canceling normally as it has really made calls clearer than on my old 3G, but it seems entirely unnecessary and in fact detrimental while using the headset.

 

[VGChampion]

I don't see why any one ever goes to Gizmodo or any of these tech blogs. They blow everything out of proportion and try to create / stay in controversy.

 

[Blackhead]

Not even a week in and my phone is already showing wear and tear even though I'm using a case

Have two weird feint white marks under the glass at the back, and then some weird scratches on the bottom left. Small and unnoticeable unless you're looking for it.

How are yours holding up?

On the bottom left of the front? I don't mid scratches on the back but the front I'd have to get a screen protector for that. Are you using the Bumper?

Gizmodo really wants to stay at the center of the iPhone 4 story by any means necessary huh?

It'd at least be handy for Apple to officially say they are working on *something*. I'd think most people could wait a few days if they knew they were going to get an answer soonish.

Jobs denies iPhone 4 reception problems (today)

In an email exchange with an iPhone 4 customer seen and verified by iLounge, Apple CEO Steve Jobs has denied that the iPhone 4 has any actual reception problems. The iLounge reader in question, who has requested to remain anonymous, wrote Jobs, saying, “Steve, I love the phone. But no one, [not] even your Apple Store has answers for my phone with the left side reception and the proximity sensor acting up.” Jobs issued a one-line response, saying, “The iPhone 4’s reception is better than the iPhone 3GS.” Our reader replied, “Yes it has better reception, is there going to be a fix for the [l]eft side antennae and [t]he Proximity Sensor problem or do you recommend taking it back for replacement?” Jobs once again replied in one sentence, again stating that “There is actually no problem with the real reception.” Jobs then issued a third, final response, saying, “Actually, the iPhone 4 is great. Sorry you’re having troubles.” Apple previously issued a statement regarding the reception issues, telling users to avoid gripping the iPhone 4 in the lower left corner if they experience severe attenuation.

 

[Keylime]

I don't see why any one ever goes to Gizmodo or any of these tech blogs. They blow everything out of proportion and try to create / stay in controversy.

Engadget generally just "reports" stuff as far as I can tell. They don't have a ton of crazy editorials that I notice in my day to day browsing, much more of a "here's this new thing", "here's our review of this device" type place.

Not to say that they don't have their "iPhone 4 or EVO" articles, but generally they stay pretty unobtrusive.

 

[Ceres]

If you held the Nano on it’s side, with the screen on the left, you wouldn’t be confused that pressing down on the wheel is increasing volume or fast-forwarding, especially considering the button is clearly pointing down? If someone handed you a remote with two unlabeled vertical buttons and told you to increase the volume you wouldn’t instinctively go for the upper button?

I don’t understand this scenario.

There’s no “correct” orientation on the iPad or iPhone, as Jon Ive stated. If you exclusively held the iPad in landscape, I feel it would be confusing that pressing the left side of the volume rocker increases the volume. It’s just not how we’ve been trained.

Is this a big deal? Probably not. But I think it’s foolish to say it’s a stupid suggestion. Even if Marty Chinn brought it up.

I'm right handed but tilt the phone so the volume buttons are on top meaning the left button is the one labeled "-". Every phone I've had with a pull out keyboard has forced me to tilt it that way so its simply the natural way for me to rotate the iphone. You can't presume that everyone tilts it the same way and its far easier to leave the buttons doing the exact same thing no matter what way its angled.

 

[VariantX04]

Engadget generally just "reports" stuff as far as I can tell. They don't have a ton of crazy editorials that I notice in my day to day browsing, much more of a "here's this new thing", "here's our review of this device" type place.

Not to say that they don't have their "iPhone 4 or EVO" articles, but generally they stay pretty unobtrusive.

Actually, they have weekly guest columns and stuff like Entelligence. Not sure if there's more but I can confirm they don't just report gadget news.

 

[Zombie James]

Jobs denies iPhone 4 reception problems (today)

"Move along."

 

[Dazzla]

Anyone had any problems with the silence rocker? Mine switches into silent properly but every now and again it will get stuck trying to go back. It almost feels gritty.

 

[borghe]

I know what you mean when he gave me my total of 391 and some change I'm like um what? I know the bumper wasn't THAT expensive. Then he explains the tax is on the full price. I looked at my receipt from my 3g and the tax was on 299.99. What's changed in two years?

a lot of states have changed the way sales tax is applied in regards to manufacturer coupons. The problem has always been that manufacturer coupons mean the store gets reimbursed for the sale. So if a store puts a $10 item on sale for $5, the store is actually seeing $5 less on the sale. But if you get a $5 off coupon for the item, the store is reimbursed the $5 from the manufacturer. thus the store is seeing the full $10 on the sale.

I am guessing AT&T/Apple is the same way. You are buying the phone for $600 (which you in fact are) and being given a discount in exchange for the contract. AT&T (or whomever) counts it as a $600 sale and thus are liable for the associated sales tax. AT&T is paying Apple the $300 difference and seeing it back from you over the contract.

It sucks, but it's basically sort of kind of legit. Through the chain everyone is actually seeing full price from you on the phone, whether through subsidies or contracts. That full price should actually be taxable. Sorry to put it like that...

 

[LCfiner]

Fake Steve had a nice take on this a few days ago. seems even more incisive in light of the new responses today.

http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/06/there-is-no-spoon.html

It’s a pretty safe assumption that if you’re reading this blog, you’ve seen “The Matrix.” And you may or may not remember the scene where a kid explains to Neo that the trick to bending a spoon with your mind is simply to remember that, “There is no spoon.”

So it is with marketing. One thing I learned very early in life, thanks to intentional overuse of psychedelic drugs, is that there is no reality. As a guy at the commune once put it: “The reality is, there is no reality.”

So some guy says his iPhone 4 is having reception issues. I say there is no reception issue. Now it’s his reality against my reality. Which one of us is living in the real reality?

There’s a two-part answer: 1, there is no real reality, and 2, it doesn’t matter.

The only thing that matters is which reality our customers will choose to adopt as their own.

Of course most people would rather live in a reality where everything works and there are no problems. And now, thanks to me, that reality exists. Because I’ve created that reality for them.

Probably the biggest thing I’ve taught the team at Apple is that people never know what they’re supposed to think about anything. This is true in Hollywood, in the book business, in the art world, in politics. And especially in technology.

So we put out a new phone and everyone is sitting there wondering what they should think about it. What I realized many years ago — and honestly, it still amazes me — is that most people are so unsure of themselves that they will think whatever we tell them to think.

So we tell people that this new phone is not just an incremental upgrade, but rather is the biggest breakthrough since the original iPhone in 2007. We say it’s incredible, amazing, awesome, mind-blowing, overwhelming, magical, revolutionary. We use these words over and over.

It’s all patently ridiculous, of course. But people believe it.

We demo FaceTime, and we say that nobody in the world has ever seen anything like this before. Jonny and I act stunned and gob-smacked, as if we ourselves still can’t believe that we’ve just invented video chat.

Again, this is utterly untrue, a total and absolute lie. But people accept it. They hoot and cheer for us.

The other strategy we use comes from Zen Buddhism. You ever study Zen koans? Most of them make no sense at all. You read them and you go away feeling confused and stupid.

We do something similar. We call it “clouding.” Right now, for example, we’ve sent out the following messages about iPhone 4 and the antenna issues:

1. All mobile phones have this problem.

2. Our mobile phone does not have this problem.

You see how this works? These two statements cannot both be true.

Yet we’ve said both of them. And now you don’t know what to believe.

Ask any psychologist what happens to people when they get confused. Their heart rate goes up. Their skin temperature rises. Adrenaline starts to flow.

They feel desperate, and scared, as if they’ve fallen out of a boat and now they’re getting tossed by waves and they’re maybe going to drown.

Now all you have to do is reach out with some kind of certainty, and no matter how obviously untrue it might be, people will latch onto it.

Every religion in the world knows this, from the Catholics to the Scientologists. It’s the oldest trick in the book. You create some uncertainty, you put people at risk — you tell them they’re going to hell, or whatever — and then you hold out the answer.

No matter how ridiculous your answer may be — like, the one about the galactic ruler Xenu, or the one where God turns into a bird and flies down to earth and impregnates a virgin — people will accept it.

Not only that, they’ll actually thank you for feeding them this horseshit. Because any certainty, no matter how crazy, is better than uncertainty.

Which brings me back to iPhone 4 and the antenna issue. Right now you’re confused. You’re worried. You don’t know what to believe. You just wish someone would come along and tell you that everything is squared away and there’s nothing to worry about.

Well, stay tuned for that. And remember: There is no spoon.

 

[fireside]

You say "trained," but you've also been trained that buttons stay doing what they're supposed to do all the time, no matter what happens on the screen or if you have your keyboard upside down or whatever. I think you're stretching.

Who turns their keyboard upside down and then continues to use it? This is probably the first time we’ve had devices where you’re “supposed” to turn it around or upside down or whatever and the device can figure out what you’re doing.

You can't presume that everyone tilts it the same way and its far easier to leave the buttons doing the exact same thing no matter what way its angled.

You’d only have to presume four ways of holding the device, and make it so the left or bottom most button decreases volume.



But this argument is pointless. You guys feel you’re right, I feel I’m right. Unfortunately for me Apple agrees with you.

 

[Marty Chinn]

If you held the Nano on it’s side, with the screen on the left, you wouldn’t be confused that pressing down on the wheel is increasing volume or fast-forwarding, especially considering the button is clearly pointing down? If someone handed you a remote with two unlabeled vertical buttons and told you to increase the volume you wouldn’t instinctively go for the upper button?

I don’t understand this scenario.

There’s no “correct” orientation on the iPad or iPhone, as Jon Ive stated. If you exclusively held the iPad in landscape, I feel it would be confusing that pressing the left side of the volume rocker increases the volume. It’s just not how we’ve been trained.

Is this a big deal? Probably not. But I think it’s foolish to say it’s a stupid suggestion. Even if Marty Chinn brought it up.

I'm amazed at the outcry at just questioning if anyone else felt the same way. It really must be people reading that I post rather than reading what I post. I just figured it seemed intuitive to match the buttons to the volume meter which would never change because it would always match instead of where they don't. It's not a big deal, but from the reactions you would think I killed someone's cat.

What in the mother fuck are you talking about?

Try going to school and learning how to read and comprehend rather than just react.

 

[Keylime]

I'm amazed at the outcry at just questioning if anyone else felt the same way. It really must be people reading that I post rather than reading what I post. I just figured it seemed intuitive to match the buttons to the volume meter which would never change because it would always match instead of where they don't. It's not a big deal, but from the reactions you would think I killed someone's cat.

I think the issue is that you can't assume the person is going to turn the device on it's side with the volume buttons on the bottom.

If you rotate the phone with the volume buttons on the top of the phone, the volume buttons are as you'd expect them to be.

Hardware buttons in general can't win unless they're fluid somehow.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

On the bottom left of the front? I don't mid scratches on the back but the front I'd have to get a screen protector for that. Are you using the Bumper?



Jobs denies iPhone 4 reception problems (today)

Interesting that he says there isn't actually a problem with the reception. Because I was meaning to say this anyway.

My reception and call quality with my iPhone 4 has been superb. Like, seriously, the signal strength, as reported on the screen at least when not touching the phone, and the talk quality has blown me away. I just came from a four year-old LG Fusic flip phone on Sprint, and I have been astounded by the voice quality I get. Like, it sounds like a land line, it's that clear. A tiny bit too quiet, maybe, but the sound that is there is so crisp! I've even been able to make perfectly clear calls from my basement, something none of our Sprint phones have been able to do!

Now I can invoke the reception issue, decreasing the reception usually down to one or two bars, depending on my location, but I have also purposefully made calls while in the "death grip," trying to see if I can get the phone to drop calls, but I have yet to have any sort of problem. Still that amazing call quality.

The reception issue has had, however, an impact on my data usage/browsing experience. Doing an internet speed test in most locations while in the "death grip" makes the phone usually only have around 0-80kbps down, with the test being fairly jerky, as if a lot of packets are not even being received.

Anyway, that has been my experience with the phone. If my bumper will alleviate the issue when it finally arrives, (though some people say it does not), at least in data usage, I'll be a pretty happy guy. This reception issue is a really big deal, but on the other hand, the number of situations that it impacts may have been somewhat overblown.

 

[Major Williams]

Interesting that he says there isn't actually a problem with the reception. Because I was meaning to say this anyway.

My reception and call quality with my iPhone 4 has been superb. Like, seriously, the signal strength, as reported on the screen at least when not touching the phone, and the talk quality has blown me away. I just came from a four year-old LG Fusic flip phone on Sprint, and I have been astounded by the voice quality I get. Like, it sounds like a land line, it's that clear. A tiny bit too quiet, maybe, but the sound that is there is so crisp! I've even been able to make perfectly clear calls from my basement, something none of our Sprint phones have been able to do!

Now I can invoke the reception issue, decreasing the reception usually down to one or two bars, depending on my location, but I have also purposefully made calls while in the "death grip," trying to see if I can get the phone to drop calls, but I have yet to have any sort of problem. Still that amazing call quality.

The reception issue has had, however, an impact on my data usage/browsing experience. Doing an internet speed test in most locations while in the "death grip" makes the phone usually only have around 0-80kbps down, with the test being fairly jerky, as if a lot of packets are not even being received.

Anyway, that has been my experience with the phone. If my bumper will alleviate the issue when it finally arrives, (though some people say it does not), at least in data usage, I'll be a pretty happy guy. This reception issue is a really big deal, but on the other hand, the number of situations that it impacts may have been somewhat overblown.

I've had the signal attenuation problem, and my apt gets full 5 bars reception in all areas of the house (believe me I've been on the phone for hours doing things around the house).

a lot of states have changed the way sales tax is applied in regards to manufacturer coupons. The problem has always been that manufacturer coupons mean the store gets reimbursed for the sale. So if a store puts a $10 item on sale for $5, the store is actually seeing $5 less on the sale. But if you get a $5 off coupon for the item, the store is reimbursed the $5 from the manufacturer. thus the store is seeing the full $10 on the sale.

I am guessing AT&T/Apple is the same way. You are buying the phone for $600 (which you in fact are) and being given a discount in exchange for the contract. AT&T (or whomever) counts it as a $600 sale and thus are liable for the associated sales tax. AT&T is paying Apple the $300 difference and seeing it back from you over the contract.

It sucks, but it's basically sort of kind of legit. Through the chain everyone is actually seeing full price from you on the phone, whether through subsidies or contracts. That full price should actually be taxable. Sorry to put it like that...

What about places like walmart? Tax is only $18 in California for the 16gb iphone 4. My coworker just bought hers last night, and was charged tax on a $199 purchase, not $599. I call bull****

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Battery life percentages and switching the usage of the hardware volume buttons based on device orientation...

...man, this thread is cooking on gas.

 

[mrkgoo]

If you held the Nano on it’s side, with the screen on the left, you wouldn’t be confused that pressing down on the wheel is increasing volume or fast-forwarding, especially considering the button is clearly pointing down? If someone handed you a remote with two unlabeled vertical buttons and told you to increase the volume you wouldn’t instinctively go for the upper button?

For sure. I agree that there are conventions (up for volume increase, for example). But I still think it's a silly idea to have the hardware buttons change without any indication.

And like-wise, I don't think up is necessarily the convention for fast-forward, if that were ever the case.

I don’t understand this scenario.

It's a stupid example, but if you had the phone facing away from you in landscape, left becomes right, and right becomes left. Should the function of the volume switch change if you're facing it away from you? Obviously, that's silly, but it you want to be consistent with
user-relative controls... (or are we talking 'gravity' -relative?)

There’s no “correct” orientation on the iPad or iPhone, as Jon Ive stated. If you exclusively held the iPad in landscape, I feel it would be confusing that pressing the left side of the volume rocker increases the volume. It’s just not how we’ve been trained.

True. The iPad is slightly more different as it really is 'no orientation' (home screen rotates and everything).

 

[Macho Madness]

Walked into the AT&T store at 7:30AM. They had just sold their last iPhone and had to "direct order" me one, set to be there within the next 5-10 business days. They said it will likely be less than that, but they use those numbers as a blanket. Sooo excited for it though.

 

[neojubei]

I've had the signal attenuation problem, and my apt gets full 5 bars reception in all areas of the house (believe me I've been on the phone for hours doing things around the house).



What about places like walmart? Tax is only $18 in California for the 16gb iphone 4. My coworker just bought hers last night, and was charged tax on a $199 purchase, not $599. I call bull****

http://bobpage.net/2009/06/09/iphone-sales-tax-is-on-the-unsubsidized-price/

 

[mrkgoo]

I'm amazed at the outcry at just questioning if anyone else felt the same way. It really must be people reading that I post rather than reading what I post. I just figured it seemed intuitive to match the buttons to the volume meter which would never change because it would always match instead of where they don't. It's not a big deal, but from the reactions you would think I killed someone's cat.



Try going to school and learning how to read and comprehend rather than just react.

Nah, someone on the macrumors forums stated the same thing, and also got the same comments. I was there saying the same thing I am here.

 

[Major Williams]

http://bobpage.net/2009/06/09/iphone-sales-tax-is-on-the-unsubsidized-price/

That doesn't explain the low tax from a Walmart purchase, only the high AT&T Tax?

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

That tax kinda sucks.

Hope they have some black bumpers when I go in today.

 

[Tobor]

Interesting that he says there isn't actually a problem with the reception. Because I was meaning to say this anyway.

My reception and call quality with my iPhone 4 has been superb. Like, seriously, the signal strength, as reported on the screen at least when not touching the phone, and the talk quality has blown me away. I just came from a four year-old LG Fusic flip phone on Sprint, and I have been astounded by the voice quality I get. Like, it sounds like a land line, it's that clear. A tiny bit too quiet, maybe, but the sound that is there is so crisp! I've even been able to make perfectly clear calls from my basement, something none of our Sprint phones have been able to do!

Now I can invoke the reception issue, decreasing the reception usually down to one or two bars, depending on my location, but I have also purposefully made calls while in the "death grip," trying to see if I can get the phone to drop calls, but I have yet to have any sort of problem. Still that amazing call quality.

The reception issue has had, however, an impact on my data usage/browsing experience. Doing an internet speed test in most locations while in the "death grip" makes the phone usually only have around 0-80kbps down, with the test being fairly jerky, as if a lot of packets are not even being received.

Anyway, that has been my experience with the phone. If my bumper will alleviate the issue when it finally arrives, (though some people say it does not), at least in data usage, I'll be a pretty happy guy. This reception issue is a really big deal, but on the other hand, the number of situations that it impacts may have been somewhat overblown.

The bumper completely removes the issue. I'm using one for shock protection, not antenna issues, but it does handle both.

 

[Bowser]

Good old NC, only had to pay $16 of tax

 

[Kano on the Phone]

Try going to school and learning how to read and comprehend rather than just react.

I tried once, but one time I picked up a book and it was in my hand horizontally and I was so fucking confused on why the words didn't turn the right way, and then I posted my deep thoughts about how much better it would be if they did on a message board but no one validated it so I just got defensive and fucking gave up.

I'm sure you can relate.

 

[Yackie]

Success! Walked into an At&T store this morning at 10am. Got a 32GB iPhone4 no problem. They didn't have any bumpers so I got another black case that's pretty thin and similar to a bumper. I wanted a bumper before I heard about these reception problems anyway, I'm too paranoid about scratching and dropping it, no matter how tough the glass may be.

I'm loving it so far, it's such an upgrade from my old 3G. And the screeeeen....all of the "OMG mah retinaz!" comments were right. Its pretty impressive. No noticeable reception problems or weird colors on the screen (so far). Now to find the perfect wallpaper...

 

[Major Williams]

Success! Walked into an At&T store this morning at 10am. Got a 32GB iPhone4 no problem. They didn't have any bumpers so I got another black case that's pretty thin and similar to a bumper. I wanted a bumper before I heard about these reception problems anyway, I'm too paranoid about scratching and dropping it, no matter how tough the glass may be.

I'm loving it so far, it's such an upgrade from my old 3G. And the screeeeen....all of the "OMG mah retinaz!" comments were right. Its pretty impressive. No noticeable reception problems or weird colors on the screen (so far). Now to find the perfect wallpaper...

Congrats man! Welcome to the club.

I recommend these sites:

http://www.iphone4wallpaper.com/

http://dailyiphoneblog.com/iphone-4-wallpapers/

Got some really good ones from these.

 

[Slacker]

So I get to the local AT&T corporate store in my area at about 6am this morning, was like about 80th in line...by the time I got to the counter at about 8:10am they've already ran out of 32GB models, but they gave me a reservation voucher for their phone shipment that arrives later today...they say as long as I return by the end of the day I should be all good...I hope? =P

Probably better off than me, who preordered on 6/15 and still has no idea when my phone is coming. >___<

 

[mjc]

Probably better off than me, who preordered on 6/15 and still has no idea when my phone is coming. >___<

Tell me about it. Its really annoying that randoms can walk into a store and buy one when some of us who reserved back then still haven't gotten shipment emails yet. I only ever got a order confirmation, and that was about 13 days ago now.

 

[neojubei]

Good old NC, only had to pay $16 of tax

lucky you, I live in TAXachusetts. I heard Deval Patrick is trying to tax the air people breathe now.

 

[borghe]

What about places like walmart? Tax is only $18 in California for the 16gb iphone 4. My coworker just bought hers last night, and was charged tax on a $199 purchase, not $599. I call bull****

it depends on how the sale is counted. if I had to guess it's because Wal-mart is a 3rd party and thus only ever sees the $199 from the sale. Apple is most definitely seeing the full $599 from the sale after AT&T reimburses them. Not sure how it would count at an AT&T corporate store. At a non-corporate store it would probably be like Wal-mart.

It's not bullshit. It depends on what the actual value of the sale is to the store. All three of our phones in WI had the tax charged for $499. But like I said, we also get charged tax on the total sale value of manufacturers coupons also (like the Disney Blu-ray $10 off coupons). It varies from state to state based on how they count manufacturer's coupons and reimbursements. The store's have practically no choice in the matter. They will get charged the sales tax either way whether they collect the entire amount from you or not.

 

[Pastry]

During the WWDC keynote was there any approximate release date given for the Netflix app? I'm currently using phoneflicks to manage my account and I'm not a big fan of it.

 

[Slacker]

Tell me about it. Its really annoying that randoms can walk into a store and buy one when some of us who reserved back then still haven't gotten shipment emails yet. I only ever got a order confirmation, and that was about 13 days ago now.

I at least got a confirmation, and my card was charged on Saturday. AT&T CSR just told me it should be here by Friday at the latest. We'll see about that.

BTW Meebo rulz! What do the haterz like about BeeJive better? I've used both and I don't see a difference that makes BJ worth $10 extra.

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

So I rang up apple today to tell them about my shoddy reception and to cut a long story short by next week there will be a solution. I wanted to get my phone exchanged as it's not 100% apparent with all phones. But the advisor assured me there is a fix coming and to use a case as a temporary fix

Dunno what to think of that!

 

[dskillzhtown]

During the WWDC keynote was there any approximate release date given for the Netflix app? I'm currently using phoneflicks to manage my account and I'm not a big fan of it.

No date given, but I hope the iPad app is retooled or updated. It is really slow to navigate around. Not sure why either.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Soon as a Netflix app is available Ill begin subscribing to netflix.

 

[vatstep]

http://bobpage.net/2009/06/09/iphone-sales-tax-is-on-the-unsubsidized-price/

Yup, I got hit with this. Quite sucky.

I'm also hoping the Netflix app hits really soon... I'm touring cross-country in a couple of weeks and would love to have it available on my phone.

 

[borghe]

No date given, but I hope the iPad app is retooled or updated. It is really slow to navigate around. Not sure why either.

netflix's app sucks on every platform.. I really don't get it.. It's like they have absolutely no UI designers on staff and the coders they do have on staff have never seen a UI in their life.. weird..

 

[Blackhead]

The bumper completely removes the issue. I'm using one for shock protection, not antenna issues, but it does handle both.

You didn't use a case with your old iPhone, did you? Why the change of heart? Especially as the iPhone 4 is supposedly better constructed to withstand damage from drops and shocks.

 

[Bowser]

You didn't use a case with your old iPhone, did you? Why the change of heart? Especially as the iPhone 4 is supposedly better constructed to withstand damage from drops and shocks.

Not to mention it's so much sexier naked

 

[Tobor]

You didn't use a case with your old iPhone, did you? Why the change of heart? Especially as the iPhone 4 is supposedly better constructed to withstand damage from drops and shocks.

I used a case on my 3GS, mostly because it felt too slick. I was always caseless on my original iPhone.

I keep waffling on the bumper, but I like that I can remove it easily when I feel like it. I do like the extra grippyness the bumper provides, but the phone looks so good naked. Can't decide.

I've never used a screen protector. I tried one, hated it, and never looked back.

 

[Vai]

What's the best video converter (free, windows) to convert videos into an iPhone/iTunes accepted format?

Handbrake doesn't seem to work for MKV files, it either crashes (latest released version) or complains about missing titles (latest dev build)

 

[Piper Az]

Engadget is reporting Bloomberg rumor that CDMA iPhone4 (Verizon) is coming January.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

fffuuuuuu

 

[VeryGooster]

A scratch on the back I found today. I don't know how long that's been there (although I attribute it somehow to drunken shenanigans on Saturday) but noticed when I opened some blinds to let in some daylight. It's not as bad as the flash of the camera makes it appear, but my mind can't un-see it now.

 

[Wellington]

Engadget is reporting Bloomberg rumor that CDMA iPhone4 (Verizon) is coming January.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...ffering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html

 

[quaere]

Please Verizon do the right thing and keep at least 5GB data. Verizon with the iPhone and 5GB+ would destroy AT&T in the market and they'd be forced to bury the stupid 2GB idea once and for all.

 

[Macho Madness]

Got on to check my order status. Showing "In Progress" with 2 under "Quantity Backordered." Cooommmeeee onnn

 

[bodyofanamerican]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...ffering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html

Is there really any difference this time compared to the last 5 times we've heard it though?