Portugeezer
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So much for a 4k to 1440p transition.
We are struggling to see your point. What matters how many games runs below 1440p? If it is able to do 1440p in certain games, it already "justifies" the marketing piece that's constantly being show here. Just as it did for Switch, for PS4 and PS4 Pro and pretty much any console ever.Doesn't really matter if it's a month out or at launch. Games without?
Ps4 pro was marketed as a 4k machine so whats your point?
How about actually quoting these messages from Xbox fans ? I can't find them.Xbox fans on here pointed it out whenever Sony put out those advertisements. MS did advertise XsS are a 1440p console and now they're claiming it was never advertised as a 1440p console when the evidence is right there.
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I am disappointed with the series s it seems like that the ram size and bandwidth are the bottlenecks.
There is 2.25 times the amount of pixels found in 1440p in respect to 4k and 4 times the amount for 1080p in respect to 4k. The series s is 3 times weaker than the Series X so theoretically it should be able to run the same games a bit higher than 1080p but a little lower than 1440p.
How about actually quoting these messages from Xbox fans ? I can't find them.
XsS was advertised as a 1440p console, and people understood perfectly well what it meant.
Xbox Series S delivers approximately 3x the GPU performance of Xbox One and was designed to play games at 1440p at 60 frames per second, with support for up to 120fps.
Because they are most likely betting on situation that there is not 1440p to my knowledge, so that extra res, would be to waste. I mean downsampling exist, but how many people would noticed.Here we have another example of Microsoft promising something, then delivering something less impressive.
How hard was it to say 1080p - 1440p console, instead of deceiving?
Underpromise (or just promise) and overdeliver. As long as Microsoft keeps doing the opposite, their PR will constantly be scrambling to put out fires.
I am disappointed with the series s it seems like that the ram size and bandwidth are the bottlenecks.
There is 2.25 times the amount of pixels found in 1440p in respect to 4k and 4 times the amount for 1080p in respect to 4k. The series s is 3 times weaker than the Series X so theoretically it should be able to run the same games a bit higher than 1080p but a little lower than 1440p.
I'm not going to go and look back bring up quotes. You can see some on this thread and in the threads about XsS or even on Twitter. They're saying it's designed for 1080p - 1440p when it was just 1440p when advertising their console.
"Series S is designed to deliver the same great next gen experience at 1440p"
Introducing Xbox Series S, Delivering Next-Gen Performance in Our Smallest Xbox Ever, Available November 10 at $299 - Xbox Wire
At Team Xbox, we always strive to put you, the player, at the center of the gaming experience, letting you play how and where you want and delivering experiences for all types of players. It’s with this spirit in mind that we’re excited to introduce you to Xbox Series S, an all-digital next-gen...news.xbox.com
The point is that it was advertised as 1440p, not 1080p-1440p console as many others are alluding to. Now there have been guys from Xbox who said 1080p-1440p, but it's clear that their focus was 1440p.
Oh shit! MS and their LIES!! They said it was a 1440p platform, why is there a game running above it?The falconeer runs at 1800 p on Series S.
Action The Falconeer can reach 120 fps on Xbox Series X and S | 4You Dialy
Developer Tomas Sala has provided details on how the upcoming action game The Falconeer will…4youdaily.com
How come you arent critiquing everything else in the adverts?
All-digital gaming experience
1440P at up to 120FPS
4K upscaling for games
DirectX Raytracing
Variable Rate Shading
Variable Refresh Rate
Every game that doesnt fully meet those specs should be bitched about to death right?
Or is there critical thinking sometimes, then being completely dumb as fuck for other points?
The amount of gaslighting is hilarious. These people trying hold MSFT task won't even mention the same shit from Sony's side, and I guarantee we'll see similar instances of misleading advertisement. Is DForce or -Arcadia- just as upset at not every game on the PS5/Series X also not supporting ray tracing? Or 120fps? Or 8k?
I've said it before, but is this your first time buying a next-gen console on release? Or any video-game tech in general? This shit is literally only a surprise to people that don't pay attention.False point of comparison.
Series X and PS5 marketing materials have been careful to emphasize 120 FPS isn’t on everything, 4K is an expected target, and likewise for ray tracing.
This was BS. Similar to what I understand (second-hand) they did with the Xbox One S, marked the box as 4K with no further explanation that it was just for movies.
Don’t assume everyone you meet is a console warrior. I know Gaming Side hasn’t been the best with this, this year (entirely down to the posters who have chosen that direction), but nonetheless. It makes productive criticism quite difficult when we immediately start throwing up flags.
For reference, I’m buying the Series X this year, and probably not a PS5 until it comes back in stock, or I can afford it.
I've said it before, but is this your first time buying a next-gen console on release? Or any video-game tech in general? This shit is literally only a surprise to people that don't pay attention.
The amount of gaslighting is hilarious. These people trying hold MSFT task won't even mention the same shit from Sony's side, and I guarantee we'll see similar instances of misleading advertisement. Is DForce or -Arcadia- just as upset at not every game on the PS5/Series X also not supporting ray tracing? Or 120fps? Or 8k?
I'm not going to go and look back bring up quotes. You can see some on this thread and in the threads about XsS or even on Twitter. They're saying it's designed for 1080p - 1440p when it was just 1440p when advertising their console.
"Series S is designed to deliver the same great next gen experience at 1440p"
Introducing Xbox Series S, Delivering Next-Gen Performance in Our Smallest Xbox Ever, Available November 10 at $299 - Xbox Wire
At Team Xbox, we always strive to put you, the player, at the center of the gaming experience, letting you play how and where you want and delivering experiences for all types of players. It’s with this spirit in mind that we’re excited to introduce you to Xbox Series S, an all-digital next-gen...news.xbox.com
The point is that it was advertised as 1440p, not 1080p-1440p console as many others are alluding to. Now there have been guys from Xbox who said 1080p-1440p, but it's clear that their focus was 1440p.
Is 1440p something people want? Because the Ps5 doesn't have it.
I'd assume its not important and thus the XSS shouldn't need it either.
Right?
Why would you assume that?Is 1440p something people want? Because the Ps5 doesn't have it.
I'd assume its not important and thus the XSS shouldn't need it either.
Right?
This isn't a console clap back. I'm getting both consoles.Why is so much of the content on this part of the board constant console clap-backs like this, versus anything of substance?
If we come in with the expectation of nothing but console wars, that’s all we’ll get, versus a place that could actually be fun and interesting to read.
This isn't a console clap back. I'm getting both consoles.
If Sony thought 1440 not important enough to support, why is it a big deal if XSS games are coming out and not hitting that target either? Maybe MS decided supporting 1440 on the XSS wasn't as important as hitting a FPS target?
So, the One X should be able to do 1440p/60fps, riiight?
What they need is M&K support for consoles. Xbox players are at a huge disadvantage.
Removed what option? 4K/30? Xbox One X and the Series S are two different levels of machines. The One X has 50% more GPU power. Even with the architecture advantages the S is at a disadvantage in ways.
Me throwing a 10900K and a Gen 4 SSD into my 3600/RX580 machine doesn’t give me the ability to punch above my GPUs weight.
Can't look back to find what doesn't exist indeed.I'm not going to go and look back bring up quotes.
Ms says up to 1440p for Seris S . They never said all games are guaranteed to run at 1440p all the time.Xbox fans on here pointed it out whenever Sony put out those advertisements. MS did advertise XsS are a 1440p console and now they're claiming it was never advertised as a 1440p console when the evidence is right there.
I was under the assumption the Series S was more powerful than the X - it costs more, right?
Series S DDR6 ram, SSD, RDNA 2 , zen 2 3.6 cpu . One X isn't even in the ball park.I was under the assumption the Series S was more powerful than the X - it costs more, right?
Can't look back to find what doesn't exist indeed.
Ms says up to 1440p for Seris S . They never said all games are guaranteed to run at 1440p all the time.
No, what we have here are people reading into things what they want to read to back up a narrative about a console that they probably have little to no intention of buying anyway.Here we have another example of Microsoft promising something, then delivering something less impressive.
How hard was it to say 1080p - 1440p console, instead of deceiving?
Underpromise (or just promise) and overdeliver. As long as Microsoft keeps doing the opposite, their PR will constantly be scrambling to put out fires.
Ms says up to 1440p for Seris S . They never said all games are guaranteed to run at 1440p all the time.
Series S DDR6 ram, SSD, RDNA 2 , zen 2 3.6 cpu . One X isn't even in the ball park.
No, what we have here are people reading into things what they want to read to back up a narrative about a console that they probably have little to no intention of buying anyway.
The Series S had been advertised as a machine capable of displaying a 1440 resolution. That fact still stands even some games won't hit it.
It's basic advertising, everyone does it when hawking a product.
If people are really this naive, they have some real surprises waiting for them involving things far more important than video games.
It's like another poster mentioned earlier in this thread, some of these replies read like they have come from people who are experiencing a console release for the first time in their lives.
your equating 4k with power? There are other factors in the Series S that proves its way more powerful. The cpu alone runs circles around the One X cpu.So series S *is* more powerful than One X? If so why not have the 4K 30 option?
your equating 4k with power? There are other factors in the Series S that proves its way more powerful. The cpu alone runs circles around the One X cpu.
Series S had the advantage everywhere besides pure GPU power. One X launched @ $500 with a 6TF GPU. Series S @ $300 with a 4TF GPU however it’s a newer more efficient architecture which makes up some of the difference. Problem is resolution is basically all GPU based.I was under the assumption the Series S was more powerful than the X - it costs more, right?
So why not have an option for 4K 30 or 1080p 60 on the Series S?
I'm not going to go and look back bring up quotes. You can see some on this thread and in the threads about XsS or even on Twitter. They're saying it's designed for 1080p - 1440p when it was just 1440p when advertising their console.
"Series S is designed to deliver the same great next gen experience at 1440p"
Introducing Xbox Series S, Delivering Next-Gen Performance in Our Smallest Xbox Ever, Available November 10 at $299 - Xbox Wire
At Team Xbox, we always strive to put you, the player, at the center of the gaming experience, letting you play how and where you want and delivering experiences for all types of players. It’s with this spirit in mind that we’re excited to introduce you to Xbox Series S, an all-digital next-gen...news.xbox.com
The point is that it was advertised as 1440p, not 1080p-1440p console as many others are alluding to. Now there have been guys from Xbox who said 1080p-1440p, but it's clear that their focus was 1440p.
I am disappointed with the series s it seems like that the ram size and bandwidth are the bottlenecks.
There is 2.25 times the amount of pixels found in 1440p in respect to 4k and 4 times the amount for 1080p in respect to 4k. The series s is 3 times weaker than the Series X so theoretically it should be able to run the same games a bit higher than 1080p but a little lower than 1440p.
I am disappointed with the series s it seems like that the ram size and bandwidth are the bottlenecks.
There is 2.25 times the amount of pixels found in 1440p in respect to 4k and 4 times the amount for 1080p in respect to 4k. The series s is 3 times weaker than the Series X so theoretically it should be able to run the same games a bit higher than 1080p but a little lower than 1440p.
it wouldn't reach 4k30, maybe 1800p30
but why have that on a console that is aimed at 1080p and 1440p users?