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[dark10x]

At least offer the fucking option then? Is that really so hard?

It might be.

There is no in-game menu for this option yet. Currently, resolution is determined entirely by systems settings. They would have to make changes to the user interface to allow for this. It shouldn't be that difficult to implement but who can say in this case.

 

[Blinck]

What are the chances of a patch for the base ps4 performance? Japanese developers usually don't care for that I think

 

[sanstesy]

Maybe the delays were justified after all

Maybe a delay to 2017 would have been justified after all

 

[Dragon1893]

One of the main reasons I bought a PS3 and a PS4 and now I need a Pro to play it with decent frame-rate.

 

[Nilaul]

Maybe a delay to 2017 would have been justified after all

It needs a year for every frame-rate missing.

 

[Griss]

Fuck me for owning an OG PS4 right?

Thing is that if the Pro didn't exist the likes of you and me would probably have gotten this exact same game with the exact same performance on the PS4.

It just sucks that we now have a better option so we feel like we're getting shafted.

This will definitely push me to get a pro.

 

[Storm Chamber]

Maybe a delay to 2017 would have been justified after all

2020 for complete parity

 

[John_B]

The Pro version at 1080p has identical image quality to OG version? Not even a bit better AA?

Cerny better swing by with the Decima engine for Team Ico's next project.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

Thanks DF. Will wait for it to hit sub $20 then.

 

[Schryver]

Not getting a Pro just for this but it's almost tempting

 

[chromatic9]

Maybe the delays were justified after all

Who knew we were waiting for 4.1tflops to be available at ~150w all this time.

Seriously though, would love to see some Pro 1080p and 4k (1900p) screens. Seems like some blurry TAA is on? Think I might prefer just the higher res with whatever AA or no AA the 1080p version is using.

I've got the collectors on order to support the game at launch but I'm looking into the Pro in Jan, hope to see some nice deals.

 

[psychotron]

Thankfully, most of those are now fixed. There are very few games left that actually run worse!

Can you say whether Mafia has been pro patched? Many of us think the game seems to run and look a lot better on Pro, but that may have been the result of them patching the base game right around Pro release. The notes don't say it's been Pro enhanced, but it sure seems that way.

 

[spannicus]

This is only for the pro players. We cant get mad people we are lowly peasants. Go home and tell your ps4 you think it is still adequate. Its the little things.

 

[NeoRaider]

20fps?? Game doesn't even look demanding, wtf? It's not like this is rushed port or something.

 

[sanstesy]

2020 for complete parity

Just think about it, by 2020 they could have transitioned the game to the PS5 for that locked 30 fps experience. Definitely a missed opportunity.

 

[Jacob4815]

So last of us removed down sampling in a patch and now there's TLG with no option. Two first party games, Sony seems actively hostile to 1080p Pro owners. Fuck. Off. I don't care about minor frame rates issues in slow single player games, I want IQ.

I fear this is a new directive.
So they are selling more 4k TV.

We'll see Horizon. They confirmed supersampling in the first interviews.

 

[Servbot24]

At least offer the fucking option then? Is that really so hard?

It's the lazy fucking devs, man. They're out to ruin our lives!

 

[deadfolk]

Between this and TLOUR update, I'm worrying it's going to be a trend that devs won't give 1080p owners a choice.

If I want the same performance as 4k owners and ss, that should be my choice.

 

[JoJoShabadoo]

I was considering getting this game but on the fence as 60 bucks is more than I should be spending on a game right now (especially based on having a relatively short duration). I think the technical problems might hold me off until it's cheaper.

When do new titles usually go on sale for the first time?

 

[Koppai]

I'm not gonna upgrade my console. That's so anti consumer.

 

[ys45]

I knew this was going to happen , PS4 owner get screwed because they don't have a freaking pro -_-

Can't believe they can't keep consistent 30 fps on a normal ps4 ....

 

[GankzyMcfly]

Hope this isnt the trend now with these mid generation console updates...very little optimization in the standard version compared to the ps4 pro... This is what i imagine crackdown 3 running like on a base xbox one...hope thats not the case.

 

[Plum]

It just had to be this game that is much worse on the PS4 compared to the Pro. Really think I might buy a Pro before Friday just to play this. I've been waiting for almost 5 years at this point and I don't want my experience tarnished by poor performance.

EDIT: Though I doubt I will; this is literally the only game that I'll care about the Pro benefits for.

 

[guybrushfreeman]

Eh 4K mode looks great to me. I'll stick with that one

 

[Garrett Hawke]

That's so anti consumer.

in what way?

 

[Jacob4815]

Between this and TLOUR update, I'm worrying it's going to be a trend that devs won't give 1080p owners a choice.

If I want the same performance as 4k owners and ss, that should be my choice.

I knew this was going to happen , PS4 owner get screwed because they don't have a freaking pro -_-

Can't believe they can't keep consistent 30 fps on a normal ps4 ....

PS4 PRO users are not happy (me too).
Regular PS4 users are not happy.

Sony should fix something, I suppose.

 

[nortonff]

No patch, no buy.
Is that simple to me.

 

[Lion Heart]

Dammit if I knew it was DF I wouldn't have clicked the link, hate giving them hits. Add it to the title brah.

I need the downsampling mode, honestly I just expected it for 1080p users. After Watch Dogs 2, Deus Ex, FF15, I can't go back to 1080p. This game would look soo good at 1900p downsampled. Anyway to trick the Pro into doing that?

This blows. Framerate is more than acceptable for such a huge res bump.

 

[The Omega Man]

This game is not ready running at 20 fps at the console version the vast majority of PS4 owners own. SONY should delay this game right now and put it on the PS5 where hopefully it can run better.

 

[Koppai]

in what way?

I have never had to buy another console in the middle of a generation just to play a game that they advertised as compatible with PS4. Dick move.

I already bought the game and it's on the way but will wait for them to patch it before I play and it they don't I'll just sell it.

 

[NeoRaider]

PS4 Pro really is 1080p console, just like i thought. XD

 

[Garrett Hawke]

I have never had to buy another console in the middle of a generation just to play a game that they advertised as compatible with PS4. Dick move.

it is compatible with ps4

one game having technical issues is not "anti-consumer", especially seeing as it has technical issues on both platforms.

 

[Peltz]

I was kinda suprised it even runs at 20-25 frames in these moments with a lot of grass outside. It feels way lower because of the very slow, kinda unresponsive camera. Could've sworn it would be more like 15-20, it felt beyond terrible.

That sucks.

 

[Yusaku]

Sony seems to have definitely dropped the ball on having developers standardizing graphical options.

 

[Enclose]

No patch, no buy.
Is that simple to me.

this.

 

[The Omega Man]

Remember when SONY said regular PS4 would not be shafted? well now the regular PS4 will become the ghetto 20fps console while the PRO becomes the base aiming for 30fps

 

[Son Of Sparda]

I have never had to buy another console in the middle of a generation just to play a game that they advertised as compatible with PS4. Dick move.

I already bought the game and it's on the way but will wait for them to patch it before I play and it they don't I'll just sell it.

But you can "play" it.

 

[Lady Gaia]

I have never had to buy another console in the middle of a generation just to play a game that they advertised as compatible with PS4. Dick move.

No, instead you got Shadow of the Colossus running just as poorly or worse on your PS2. The only change now is you've finally got the option to do something about it. Whether you do or not is entirely up to you, but if you don't then nothing has changed for prior generations.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Remember when SONY said regular PS4 would not be shafted? well now the regular PS4 will become the ghetto 20fps console while the PRO becomes the base aiming for 30fps

based on this one game from a dev with a history of technical issues

OMG

people need to chill out.

 

[Gitaroo]

its insane that they are not even doing checkerboard 1800, but a full native 1900 with this kind of performance. Checkerboard 2160p is less demanding and probably offer better performane and 1:1 pixel perfect scaling on 4K screen. What the hell

 

[Garrett Hawke]

its insane that they are not even doing checkerboard 1800, but a full native 1900 with this kind of performance. Checkerboard 2160p is less demanding and probably offer better performane and 1:1 pixel perfect scaling on 4K screen. What the hell

their engine might not support checkerboarding - cerny did say devs would have to implement it themselves so it may just be too much work to justify it for them.

they should probably drop the res a bit though.

 

[Ocarina_117]

Most hyped ps4 and current gen game.

Absolutely gutted right now.

Will hold off, hope it gets patched.

 

[spannicus]

Remember when SONY said regular PS4 would not be shafted? well now the regular PS4 will become the ghetto 20fps console while the PRO becomes the base aiming for 30fps

So you are saying the PS4 is the ghetto and the PS4 Pro is the Suburbs correct?

 

[Nachtfalke]

Thankfully, most of those are now fixed. There are very few games left that actually run worse!

What's left after the patches for TLOU and Deus Ex? I'm just aware of World of Final Fantasy now, though it runs with the same framerate. It just looks worse. (Why wasn't it fixed already?)

 

[firelogic]

Thing is that if the Pro didn't exist the likes of you and me would probably have gotten this exact same game with the exact same performance on the PS4.

It just sucks that we now have a better option so we feel like we're getting shafted.

This will definitely push me to get a pro.

For sure the game would have performed exactly the same had the Pro not existed. I mean, this game has been in and out of development since before 2009. It's not like it was created targetting the Pro and they just slapped together a regular PS4 version.

Complaining about the performance is perfectly ok but it's not the Pro's fault and the devs aren't nefariously making games run badly on the original to make you buy a Pro. The way some people are talking is like Sony is quietly mandating to all developers to deliberately cripple games on the PS4 so they can sell more Pro units. I mean, does that actually make sense to you?

 

[ys45]

PS4 PRO users are not happy (me too).
Regular PS4 users are not happy.

Sony should fix something, I suppose.

Heck yeah they should fix it I mean come on I was expecting technical issues with the game but this is ridiculous even the pro got issues .
I played Dark Souls 2 on ps3 at under 30 fps, never again .

Il keep the game in shrink wrap and see what happens the coming weeks .

 

[dark10x]

I'm not gonna upgrade my console. That's so anti consumer.

So just about everything out there is anti-consumer then?

Every new smart phone, new car, new TV, new graphics card? We should stick with old technology?

I don't understand the logic there.

What's left after the patches for TLOU and Deus Ex?

Well, the only remaining game that runs worse is Skyrim but it's targeting native 4K so it's hardly a big deal.

Rise of the Tomb Raider is better on Pro, of course, but they still need to go back and fix the frame pacing bug.

If we were going to nitpick, I could say Ratchet and Clank since there are now scenes on Pro which do run worse but they are extremely uncommon and relegated to just a couple spots. It's otherwise very very smooth.

At this point, the Pro is in good shape.

 

[The Omega Man]

based on this one game from a dev with a history of technical issues

OMG

people need to chill out.

A game with tons of years in the making, a game that SONY sent their ninjas to help, a game that has no right to run like this when they are way better looking games on the console that run better too, THIS of all games my friend is the game that should have not been allowed to be shipped running like that after all these years, after all the history behind it and all the extra help and backing it got from SONY.

So you are saying the PS4 is the ghetto and the PS4 Pro is the Suburbs correct?

Yes, but not only that, regular PS4 used to be the suburbs and the PRO was the promise of a wealthy neighborhood, instead the PRO became the suburbs and the regular PS4 neighborhood became a baaaaaad hood'

 

[pswii60]

1080p on Pro for me, glad I got a Pro now.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

What's left after the patches for TLOU and Deus Ex?

i think skyrim still has issues with heavy alpha effects due to memory bandwidth