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The last night still in development.

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The Last Night is well & alive on our computer screens every day. I’m just gonna link to this old dev blog entry:

https://medium.com/the-last-night-devblog/why-do-independent-game-developers-take-so-long-to-make-games-661f98433411

There is a reason you didn’t see the game this year, and there is a reason we can’t talk about it publicly. And yes it sucks, yes I would like to be open, but I just can’t right now, contractually, legally. So please hang in there. We’re doing our absolute best to protect and develop The Last Night.

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Sorry, Soret's blog-post about how long it takes to make indie-games is utter bollocks.

This recent generation of indie-developers are not the first people in history to build games from scratch. People were starting with less in all aspects (dev tech, communication tools, publishing opportunities) back in the 80's and 90's and were getting stuff out the door in a hell of a lot less than 5 years!

Yes, the products were simpler then, but the technology was unbelievably primitive too. Writing a game in C using a middle-ware engine is a lot faster and less challenging than building everything from scratch in Z80 or 6502.
 

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I want it so bad.

And I'm ok with waiting, if it's needed to polish it. Death's Gambit was a bit of a letdown for this reason.
 

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Sorry, Soret's blog-post about how long it takes to make indie-games is utter bollocks.

This recent generation of indie-developers are not the first people in history to build games from scratch. People were starting with less in all aspects (dev tech, communication tools, publishing opportunities) back in the 80's and 90's and were getting stuff out the door in a hell of a lot less than 5 years!

Yes, the products were simpler then, but the technology was unbelievably primitive too. Writing a game in C using a middle-ware engine is a lot faster and less challenging than building everything from scratch in Z80 or 6502.
True. If you go and watch some documentary about it you'll be absolutely amazed on how the hardware limitations were overcome with brilliant, out of the box thinking.
 

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Well, at least it's still alive! What was the latest news re a publisher? Would the fact that they seem to be under some kind on NDA indicate that they have a publisher and that they won't let them reveal any details of the game?
 

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Man, everyone in ResetEra was shitting on the game because of Tim Soret’s opinions and views. I hope this doesn’t happen here...
Let people shit on the game here. You're welcome to disagree, challenge their accusations, learn why they feel that way, explain why they're wrong, agree with some things and not others, choose to separate the man's art from his politics, and whatever else. Everyone's free to have their own opinions, here.
 

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Man, everyone in ResetEra was shitting on the game because of Tim Soret’s opinions and views. I hope this doesn’t happen here...
I don't care what the guy did, people need to stop being so ridiculous and disassociate the creators of games with the games themselves.

Yu Suzuki could have been the Unibomber, that wouldn't stop me from enjoying Shenmue.
 
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Let people shit on the game here. You're welcome to disagree, challenge their accusations, learn why they feel that way, explain why they're wrong, agree with some things and not others, choose to separate the man's art from his politics, and whatever else. Everyone's free to have their own opinions, here.
I just find it so fucking stupid, man. A lot of the comments there were calling the guy a piece of shit or a misogynist. Those type of comments are so ridiculous and they are so much more common there than here.
 

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I just find it so fucking stupid, man. A lot of the comments there were calling the guy a piece of shit or a misogynist. Those type of comments are so ridiculous and they are so much more common there than here.
That’s because we’re normal. Well...most of us.
 

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ResetEra is full of SJW's. They will get offended over anything. I really couldn't care less about whatever this guy did. The game looks cool and therefore I want to play it. That lot over on that site love to shit on stuff. What a sad life they must all live. You get the usual crap from them "I was SOO excited for this game but NOPE...I refuse to hand over my hard earned dollars now because it's disrespectful, rationalizes discrimination, and dismisses my cats feelings!!1!! I will only give my money to developers who will respect my cat!"
 
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Cant wait, been following it since it Got announced if politics Will destroy this game , then fuck this time Line. It already claimed Prey 2. Lets hope it doesnt take The last Night too.
 
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Game would get flamed to the shithouse even if it was the best game ever which is unfortunate as it reminded me of the first time I played flashback.

People need to seperate the person from the game as this toxic witch-hunt shit is getting real old
 

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Poor bastard has probably been blacklisted by all the usual press suspects in this industry
 

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Damn ... I really hope this game gets released. I was really interested in it when it was shown at E3 back then. Wonder what the legal troubles are ...?
 

Scopa

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Damn ... I really hope this game gets released. I was really interested in it when it was shown at E3 back then. Wonder what the legal troubles are ...?
I’m going to take a stab and guess that he had a partial funding deal with Microsoft (because the game had Xbox launch exclusivity) and they pulled it because of the “controversy”. Or the publisher (Raw Fury) pulled out for similar reasons. Or both.
 

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I hope the game releases and sells really well like KC: D. Apparently they've been targeted by people in the industry according to him.
 

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I hope the game releases and sells really well like KC: D. Apparently they've been targeted by people in the industry according to him.
Am I reading that right?

“There is no interference. Clarification: There is interference”
 
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Am I reading that right?

“There is no interference. Clarification: There is interference”
The original tweet claimed that their financial/legal troubles are tied to activists interfering. That's not the case but they were still attacked by people within the industry.
 
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I hope the game releases and sells really well like KC: D. Apparently they've been targeted by people in the industry according to him.
And some people wonder Why other people hate those in power... WHO are they to determine and force their Will at me... i stand my Ground i wont be intermidated by scarecrows in suits.
 

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Am I reading that right?

“There is no interference. Clarification: There is interference”
I think what he's saying is that their financial troubles and development troubles are not related to activist activities.

However, there are still activists within the industry that are trying to get the game shut down in other ways.
 

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The original tweet claimed that their financial/legal troubles are tied to activists interfering. That's not the case but they were still attacked by people within the industry.
Yeah, I’ve seen the original Twitter string now. I take out of it that his funding has been cut. He’s trying to put on an impartial face and suggests he doesn’t think it has anything to do with the controversy, but then he says it might. He’s being smart and not talking to much detail, but it’s pretty clear to me.

These basement dwellers on other screeching forums, Twitter, other SJW developers and pathetic white knight gaming journalists have gone after him hard to take his financing away from him. Sound familiar?

This shit is getting fucking crazy. These limpwristed losers are so deranged they claim they are the vanguard of justice whilst silencing and deplatforming anyone who thinks differently.

Utterly insane.
 

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He's been bemoaning Brexit lately as well and implications of funding. I don't know how to search tweets. But someone also suggested it could be legal as they switched publishers. Also this...../smh

 
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I really couldn't care less about whatever this guy did.
I don't really remember the specifics (damn, so many controversies to keep mind of!), but it was basically nothing. It's just your usual sjw void outrage.

Anyhoo... this game is an instant buy for me. Love the art style and want to support the creator.
 
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Saying that the game's universe takes place in a future where our modern feminism won or something like that got the witch hunt rolling on OldGAF and it continues on ReeeeeGAF.

This forum, before the exodus, was hunting him down hardcore and he said some bad things about the owner, which isn't really shocking. If it looked like an entire forum I wasn't even a part of was trying to ruin my life and that kind of weird action was hosted and allowed by the site, I'd think the owner was in on it too.
 

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They will refuse to acknowledge why battlefield v actually bombed ... and question why kingdom come surpasses expectations. I expect similar results here after the gamer terrorists at resetera fail to bitch and moan loud enough.

Buy games that look cool; that look fun... not because they meet your checklist of propaganda and pandering.
 

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So essentially this guy flies under an egalitarian flag and has issues with modern day feminism?

He might as well be a nazi.
 

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If this game goes under because all of this dumb shit I'm officially leaving gaming behind. Things are getting completely out of control, these SJW's and leftist extremists have too much influence over things they should have no control over.

This is all getting disgusting.
 

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I wonder what kind of legal issues they have, maybe some big company thinks that the name is too close to their game. It sounds kinda generic.
 

DynamiteCop!

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I wonder what kind of legal issues they have, maybe some big company thinks that the name is too close to their game. It sounds kinda generic.
Probably some kind of legal feud with Raw Fury in terms of funding, if they dropped as the publisher and stopped funding the project that would explain both legal issues and seeking out funding.
 
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Yeah it looks like Raw Fury is gone, however Microsoft is still involved. That explains them not showing off the trailer, they were likely in the middle of a fued with the publisher.


 
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I don't care what the guy did, people need to stop being so ridiculous and disassociate the creators of games with the games themselves.

Yu Suzuki could have been the Unibomber, that wouldn't stop me from enjoying Shenmue.
You can't tell people how to feel about a creator and if they want to hate a game because of that. I do agree that it's in poor taste to crap up a thread every single time a "The Last Night" thread is created. Like hate the guy and say you piece, but you don't have to stay in the thread and continue those points for pages and pages.

The exact same thing happens in every David Cage game thread. Doesn't matter which of his games it's about. People HATE David Cage and will ruin the thread arguing how terrible he is. I'm okay with it to a degree, but my goodness.....for 5 pages straight?
 

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Yeah, I’ve seen the original Twitter string now. I take out of it that his funding has been cut. He’s trying to put on an impartial face and suggests he doesn’t think it has anything to do with the controversy, but then he says it might. He’s being smart and not talking to much detail, but it’s pretty clear to me.

These basement dwellers on other screeching forums, Twitter, other SJW developers and pathetic white knight gaming journalists have gone after him hard to take his financing away from him. Sound familiar?

This shit is getting fucking crazy. These limpwristed losers are so deranged they claim they are the vanguard of justice whilst silencing and deplatforming anyone who thinks differently.

Utterly insane.
It's sad that you'll let this guy play you like this. He's pulling on your emotional strings in hopes that you support him and the game. He knows you hate SJWs and Resetera, so that's why he talks about that. But notice how it's never in specifics. He's not going to put himself in a situation where he'll have to "Actually" prove that these people are defunding him. NOPE! He'll just elude to it. Have you connect to conspiracy dots so that he doesn't leave a trail of lies.
 

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It's sad that you'll let this guy play you like this. He's pulling on your emotional strings in hopes that you support him and the game. He knows you hate SJWs and Resetera, so that's why he talks about that. But notice how it's never in specifics. He's not going to put himself in a situation where he'll have to "Actually" prove that these people are defunding him. NOPE! He'll just elude to it. Have you connect to conspiracy dots so that he doesn't leave a trail of lies.
He is probably prohibited from giving specifics because of NDAs or legal advice from lawyers.
 

mckmas8808

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He is probably prohibited from giving specifics because of NDAs or legal advice from lawyers.
Maybe. But in that case he shouldn't be talking about Resetera or those "people" out to get him either. Lately it seems like he cares more about talking about Resetera and the "owner" of GAF than he doesn't his own game. He's starting to remind me of Kanye West and his quest to constantly want to complain that people don't love him wearing the "Make America Great Again" hat, instead of focusing on making good music.
 

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It's sad that you'll let this guy play you like this. He's pulling on your emotional strings in hopes that you support him and the game. He knows you hate SJWs and Resetera, so that's why he talks about that. But notice how it's never in specifics. He's not going to put himself in a situation where he'll have to "Actually" prove that these people are defunding him. NOPE! He'll just elude to it. Have you connect to conspiracy dots so that he doesn't leave a trail of lies.
Lol and you think I am getting played. He’s just telling the truth. Resetera is a toxic shithole. Not that I would know, I’ve never been there, but so many people can’t be wrong!

Going by your regular musings, someone is being played, but it ain’t me.
 

mckmas8808

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Lol and you think I am getting played. He’s just telling the truth. Resetera is a toxic shithole. Not that I would know, I’ve never been there, but so many people can’t be wrong!

Going by your regular musings, someone is being played, but it ain’t me.
It's okay for Resetera to be a terrible forum. But that place has nothing to do with his game needing more funding or potentially why his original Publisher dropped him and his team's game.
 

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Microsoft! Buy this game now. It was the only highlight of that e3 from Xbox.

You’ll gain the exact audience lost from games like Battlefield Vag.