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The Last-Stop-Speak-In-Hyperbole Official Revolution Specs Thread
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ItsInMyVeins said:
As people have already stated numerous times, it was originally slated at $250, but Nintendo lowered the MSRP just before lauch. Of course, not every retailer dropped it to $200... but most did. It was a very hot item that holiday season, and I'm not surprised people overpaid for it, willingly or unwillingly (or unknowingly).
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
Ark-AMN said:
Yup.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Why don't you put your account where your mouth is and wager a ban if you are so sure?Haleon said:
N64 launched at $199.99.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
soundwave05 said:The N64 was initially supposed to be $249.99 US ... that was the announced price when Nintendo announced the machine in August 1993 in a partnership with Silicon Graphics.
The system was initially supposed to ship in late 1995.
Of course it was delayed. At some point during spring/summer 1996, Nintendo decided to drop the price to $199.99 and launch at that price. This caused Sony to drop the price of their Playstation in advance of the N64 launch.
Believe me. I know my N64 history
Ah, well, that might be true. I dunno. I don't live in US. And where I live it did cost more like.. 300 USD, at least.. And the games, jeezus, some of them had a pricetag at almost 100 USD. Probably taxes. It's like the XB360 Premium Pack, with a price tag around 500 USD over here. Oh, well..
soundwave05
Member
Oh Nintendo ... why oh why didn't you keep the N64 price at $249.99 but include a CD drive?
*sniff*
Really, that's the one mistake that Nintendo made that has burned them ever since with their consoles.
GameCube tried to recover, but by then Sony was too entrenched and Microsoft had come onto the scene.
*sniff*
Really, that's the one mistake that Nintendo made that has burned them ever since with their consoles.
GameCube tried to recover, but by then Sony was too entrenched and Microsoft had come onto the scene.
AgentCooper
Member
soundwave05 said:Ah, all the N64 talk makes me think about
The good ol' days
Awww, I just got all choked up.
And yes, I know I got screwed, but Chlidrens' Palace was the only store that had any units left so I took what I could get.UltraMarioMan
Member
Why on Earth would Nintendo release something so weak compared to the other systems? Even if the 360 is more powerful then rev it will be a similer gap between them as GC/XBox.Letter to Elise said:
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Haleon said:
Quoted. And yes, if that's the case a lot of people got screwed.
soundwave05
Member
AgentCooper said:
I still look at my N64, and wonder what could have been sometimes.
Final Fantasy VII .... you should've been on the N64 damnit. You too, Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid.
As for N64 pricing I believe by Christmas 1996, some retailers were charging upwards of $300 for it. There were hype stories that Steven Spielberg and members of the Chicago Bulls wanted one but were having trouble finding systems.
The N64 launch/Christmas hysteria is basically the building block for the PS2/XBox 360 launch frenzies in North America.
I remember something around $350 or so after tax because I got it at TRU with Mario and Pilotwings.
My reserve slips were in the trunk of my dad's car.
That was quite the day, we took a powerdrill to the trunk lock of our Jag to open it. (Jaguars come with two keys. We lost the normal key and were left with the chaffeur key which can't open trunks)
My reserve slips were in the trunk of my dad's car.
That was quite the day, we took a powerdrill to the trunk lock of our Jag to open it. (Jaguars come with two keys. We lost the normal key and were left with the chaffeur key which can't open trunks)
Letter to Elise
Banned
UltraMarioMan said:
They are trying to create their own marketspace. They have a different vision for gaming. It may work out well for them, who knows?
~l2e
Awwww cutie! ^_^
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
n64.ign.com's article isn't official enough for you?
UltraMarioMan said:
Unless you've had a few too many frontal lobotomy's, I don't see how anyone could rationally think the Revolution will be as powerful as the 360. More so as a "worst case" scenario. People, just use that little thing called logic. Please. For the love of god!
Ugh, where are my crazy pills?
SolidSnakex
Member
You paid 250 for your N64 becuase everyone bought Mario 64 with it. 
UltraMarioMan said:
No it won't. It's more like the difference between an Xbox and a cutting edge PC.
For the record, I (unlike most) believe this is good for Nintendo and their fans. They'll be different, fresh, and cater to their hardcore base as well as children all while ensuring their future.
How hard is it to understand?Haleon said:
THE NINTENDO64 BY NINTENDO LAUNCHED AT 199$
YOU GOT SCREWED.
http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/games/news-archive/Dreamcast Launch Plans Unveiled.htm
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/067/067753p1.html
http://www.djc.com/news/tech/10018540.html
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Whatever.
I'm buying it anyway.
All I want is the games to at least look as sexy as the machine.
Playing pong on a machine THAT sleek is sinful.
- Harker
I'm buying it anyway.
All I want is the games to at least look as sexy as the machine.
Playing pong on a machine THAT sleek is sinful.
- Harker
Letter to Elise
Banned
3rdman said:
Plus the biggest detractors of this aren't the ones who were going to buy it anyway.
~l2e
cubicle47b
Member
The N64's official MSRP at launch was $199.95 but a *lot* of retailers charged $250. I bought mine for $200 at Wal-mart.
I remember paying $80 for Shadows of the Empire, though, so it's not like I didn't get screwed too. I ended up selling it for $40 but still...
I remember paying $80 for Shadows of the Empire, though, so it's not like I didn't get screwed too. I ended up selling it for $40 but still...
soundwave05
Member
deadhorse32
Bad Art
Haleon said:
i know i'm late but http://groups.google.com/groups?q=n..._miny=1996&as_maxd=16&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=1996&
It was announced the Aug 14 1996.
Ok, the first link you posted says the "press release" dropped the price to $150.00. The press release isn't even posted. Then a second guy comes on and says that the N64 is "still" 199.99 in the US (as if it's already out). Third, this is about as official as my link to the two guys saying they paid 250 for it.borghe said:
soundwave05 said:
OMG!!! I saw this ad at my Funcoland!!! I was like....9!!! So awesome. I loved N64.
By the way, people, this isn't applying L'Hopital's rule, it just seems obvious. Tiny freaking space, cheap design. If Nintendo can do what some people are expecting, I say we should replace NASA with Nintendo.
master_shake_05
Banned
Jeez the proof is in the pudding, people. This guy KNOWS he's wrong, but he's too stubborn to admit that 1) He was wrong and B) He got screwed....
Letter to Elise
Banned
Master_Shake_05 said:
You noticed that too?
~l2e
Wait a minute, what day did the N64 come out?
EDIT
This says September 29th
http://www.n-sider.com/hardwareview.php?hardwareid=7
But the price cut to 199.99 didn't take place until August 15th, which would mean they DIDN'T launch at 200. They price dropped to 200 to match a PS2 price drop.
EDIT
This says September 29th
http://www.n-sider.com/hardwareview.php?hardwareid=7
But the price cut to 199.99 didn't take place until August 15th, which would mean they DIDN'T launch at 200. They price dropped to 200 to match a PS2 price drop.
soundwave05
Member
Technically Sept. 29th, although many retailers broke the street date.
Originally the launch date was supposed to be Sept. 30th, but Nintendo moved it up a day or two.
Originally the launch date was supposed to be Sept. 30th, but Nintendo moved it up a day or two.
Someone should give Haleon a new tag. Something like "N64 $199 at launch!"
This is getting out of hand. N64 was $199 at launch. How do I know? I bought one from Walmart at that price!
It was originally priced $249, but a month before launch Nintendo dropped the price to $199.
You paid $249 for the system alone? You overpaid. Fact.
This is getting out of hand. N64 was $199 at launch. How do I know? I bought one from Walmart at that price!
It was originally priced $249, but a month before launch Nintendo dropped the price to $199.
You paid $249 for the system alone? You overpaid. Fact.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Haleon said:
It's not like this is needed after everyone else, but it amused me that you used a google search like proof when:
$199 "nintendo 64" = 77,800 hits
and
$249 "nintendo 64" = 19,900 hits
Try all sorts of combinations: rounding it off, exact figures, N64 instead of Nintendo 64...the lower price has always won on those I've checked.
So it came out September 29th, but here's a link from one of you guys claiming it launched at 200
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....&q=nintendo+64&rnum=29&hl=fr#396cb3053d6f7774
Read the link.
Yes, it's true. In today's business section of the S.F Chronicle (Aug.
15,1996), Nintendo officially announced a $50 price-cut on the U.S.
Nintendo 64 unit. The company "slashed the price of the Nintendo 64 to
$199 from $249 to match price cuts of rivals Sony Corp. and Sega
Enterprises Co...."
August 15th.
So they DROPPED the price AFTER it was launched, which would make me correct.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....&q=nintendo+64&rnum=29&hl=fr#396cb3053d6f7774
Read the link.
Yes, it's true. In today's business section of the S.F Chronicle (Aug.
15,1996), Nintendo officially announced a $50 price-cut on the U.S.
Nintendo 64 unit. The company "slashed the price of the Nintendo 64 to
$199 from $249 to match price cuts of rivals Sony Corp. and Sega
Enterprises Co...."
August 15th.
So they DROPPED the price AFTER it was launched, which would make me correct.
Aika'svyse
Banned
MS cleary want to grow the market and Nintendo cleary wants to grow its profit. The moves they are making tell me this. I think people are counting too much on a new cotroller to gain market share. While some die hard Nintendo fans may be foaming at the mouth, general public is going to think the Rev is a malnourished next gen console. Sure some people will buy it, but I think if this news is true it will may only erode Nintendo fans more. MY brother was in love with Nintendo, he loved the NES, The SNES, but then with N64 things started to change and with GC, he constantly started to diss Nintendo, Rev may do him in. :lolMusashi Wins! said:
Like I said I'll wait for games, but I can't help feel dissapointed.
master_shake_05
Banned
STFU once again please. Go justify your dwindling manhood somewhere else. You got the facts wrong, and you got fucked over. Just stop! :lol :lolHaleon said:
TheJesusFactor
Member
You know, I think the bigger reason why the N64 didn't do as well was because the games were priced at $59.99 - $69.99. Their games were expensive, but I guess it was directly related to the Cart system.
ghostlyjoe
Member
I don't really see what there is to compain about.
To the average user (you know, people who don't know pixel shaders from PPUs and have never heard of -- or care to hear about -- bump mapping) graphical quality is simply about how pretty the pictures are; art direction has as much to do with that perception as horesepower. Things like advanced lighting effects and shading won't be entirely lost on the average user, but they are simply registered in a very general sense as part of the image's "prettiness" or "smoothness."
If the Rev's specs are as relatively weak as hinted, then the average user probably will be able to tell the difference between a 360 and a Rev game, but it will seem extreme only in a situation where the games are seen either side-by-side or one after the other. And even then, strong art direction might be able to significantly close the perception gap.
Only tech-heads understand polygon counts and shaders and mapping to the point where those things become evident during gameplay. That's not to downplay specs importance as marketing tools, or how having modest numbers could play into the perception of technological inferiority.
However, it's worth mentioning that the average consumer might see the Rev controller as a technological leap over current controllers, which could help erase technology perception deficit as well.
To the average user (you know, people who don't know pixel shaders from PPUs and have never heard of -- or care to hear about -- bump mapping) graphical quality is simply about how pretty the pictures are; art direction has as much to do with that perception as horesepower. Things like advanced lighting effects and shading won't be entirely lost on the average user, but they are simply registered in a very general sense as part of the image's "prettiness" or "smoothness."
If the Rev's specs are as relatively weak as hinted, then the average user probably will be able to tell the difference between a 360 and a Rev game, but it will seem extreme only in a situation where the games are seen either side-by-side or one after the other. And even then, strong art direction might be able to significantly close the perception gap.
Only tech-heads understand polygon counts and shaders and mapping to the point where those things become evident during gameplay. That's not to downplay specs importance as marketing tools, or how having modest numbers could play into the perception of technological inferiority.
However, it's worth mentioning that the average consumer might see the Rev controller as a technological leap over current controllers, which could help erase technology perception deficit as well.
soundwave05 said:I think this will probably be what Revolution games (the more graphics oriented titles) will look like
Only with 480p resolution.
If Mario and Zelda look like that on the Rev, I'll be more than ecstatic. I don't care what anyone says. Kameo looks beautiful. Fuck the hataz!