Glitter and Gold
Banned
Bonding event spoilers
His final bonding scene with both characters is completely platonic.
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2 |OT| Class Reunion
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Bonding event spoilers
Nah this is the best Trails game so far IMO.
RampagingSoul
Member
Just finished the game! The ending sure did drag and didn't help when Millium quipped
Anyways..., this is definitely in my top 5 of my personal GOTY standings right now and I can't wait for Cold Steel III!
"Now this is a final dungeon" or something like that in Infernal Castle. That sure was the final dungeon alright...
The two I saw weren't. Both were very clear about feelings beyond friends, The scene for
Sara
Towa
I'm pretty gutted that
Rean
Scrooge McDuck
Member
[Bonding event]
There is no way Fie's scene is platonic unless we have a minimum requirement of kissing or the utterance of "I am attracted to you romantically" to qualify something as not platonic.
You haven't finished it, yar? [Spoiler-tagging this because you spoiler-tagged that name]
I think knowing Rean's place as a character by the end of the game is very important in forming expectations of the third game, one way or the other.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Headpats and kisses on the cheek just seem like platonic gestures to me.
The only ones that seem romantic to me at all are
Alisa, Emma and Laura
Fie, Sara, Millium, Towa and Alfin
Towa
Alfin
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Kind of you can turn down the BGM volume specifically in the option menu(among SFX and voices).
Nightengale
Member
Shrine grinds are so boring just turn the volume down to zero until you reach boss.
I'm on the first boss in the finale and getting major SC vibes. I brought Laura to that one and it felt like I'd have missed some important stuff if I hadn't. Sara got a little nod from them too. Are the other bosses the same? Fie has never left my party so I'll be OK in the one I expect she'll be required for. What are the recommended people to take for each one? I didn't take Millium against
, did I miss anything?
Edit: I think I was fan-girling harder than Dorothee at that
scene.
Altina
Edit: I think I was fan-girling harder than Dorothee at that
Mueller and Neithardt
I'm male
Pellegri Testament
Member
Laura - Fie - Emma in that order. Laura and Fie are significant to their character development, while Emma has a few small lines that will probably be explained more in a later game.
You'll be hearing that song a lot more. I'm in the 'final' dungeon and it's present there. It's also in cutscenes preceding the place too.
Oh that works out. I haven't fought a boss yet but I take all three of those. My team is usually:
Rean, Laura, Alisa and Sara. I kind of have to take the main character and Rean is pretty good anyway with high attack and good delay skills. Sara and Laura are just power houses, Laura for her sheer damage and Sara is all around awesome and is practically as strong as Laura. Alisa is there for Heavenly Gift. I use Emma and Jusis as support in case I feel like using Arts or Noble Command. Since you were allowed an extra character here I took Fie.
You've just named my base team. Laura, Sara and Fie because they're good, strong female characters. Emma is a bit too megane boob witch for my tastes but she's just to damn good an artes user.
Good to know I'll get the best out of the scenes, been waiting the entire game for Fie to hopefully
reconcile with three Zephyr duo.
You take that back....
It describes her to a tee really.
Y-you too....
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Emma in two isnt about her backstory, its about knowing just enough of it to understand where shes coming from, and why shes struggling with how she wants her life to be now.
I found her really compelling in CS2
I found her really compelling in CS2
If anything apart from certain situations that relate to individual characters, Emma is one of the two characters with Sara it made sense to take with me everywhere. Partly for her, and partly for her cat. The rest of students were just tag alongs really.
So as much as she is a megane boob witch with a yaoi loving friend, I always took her when possible
So as much as she is a megane boob witch with a yaoi loving friend, I always took her when possible
SatelliteOfLove
Member
"Ohhhhh look, it's my two FAVORITE people."
Maybe those constant win-> power up -> saved by adults are justified after all!
Maybe those constant win-> power up -> saved by adults are justified after all!
Her and Rean are very similar in that "harmony-building betas with a huge amount of potential". Potential both about her arc and her personality. Lessee if they sink or swim with her too.
Yo kewlmyc what's up man, did you beat CS1 yet?
Seriously though, it's dangerous here and there are spoilers
BassForever
Member
I'd say cs2 suffers more from split in half syndrome then sc did because we really got 1/4 and 1/4 of a story across cs1&2
Scrooge McDuck
Member
It felt more like 3/8 and 1/8, honestly. Basically every character development of party members, with the exception of
Jusis and Rean
I'd sooner say their character development is "finished" rather than on hold.
Jusis, Rean and Emma (imo)
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Yeah most of the main characters completed their arcs in the first game. Those three are just challenged moreso than the others by the circumstances of the second game,
(Jusis in particular)
(Rean and Emma, and I'd add Millium here as well)
Beat the 4th Shrine. Finally the plot is kicking in again. Why is the pacing for this game so bad? The plot is actually really interesting whenever something happens!
~Holy Saint, Holy Spirit, Tell Me...~
#*%^(#$^(#^$(#@^$@
~Holy Saint, Holy Spirit, Tell Me...~
#*%^(#$^(#^$(#@^$@
Slogging through the end dungeon now
Also, why do all these tank commanders (Craig the Red and his protege), seem to have zero idea about basic strategy and believe in conducting armoured warfare at melee range while standing on top of a tank? All their most dangerous opponents are mechs with melee weapons! That's the kind of thing I expect from Warhammer 40k maniacs, not people lauded across the country for being strategic geniuses! Would have been nice to see someone point out that the difference in range between cannons and swords is a significant disadvantage, and perhaps to see a mech-using hero that's decided to actually make use of one with a rifle rather than dancing around with martial arts in a mech instead.
I mean, I know that rpgs worship melee combat but when the background is mechanised warfare it's all a bit silly that the best way to deal with a tank is to get in a mech with a spear and run at it while 'dodging' incoming shells, because the commanders don't realise they are allowed to start firing when you are more than thirty feet away.
A bit more focus on personal development of individual members of class VII beyond 'friendship is magic' and a bit less obsession with a cast of 30+ supporting characters that all apparently need to be showing off how cool they are even as the game heads towards its conclusion would really help.
A bit less of having Fie/Altina etc saying 'beginning combat' or 'ending hostilities' in such a stilted way, as if a brief scrap was a major operation, would be good too. It doesn't make them sound more martial/professional, it just sounds weird when the only people that care are right there with you and well aware that a fight has started/finished. Woeful dialogue.
[the infernal castle]. Why, why, is there a need to repeat the earlier parts of the game and have every battle against major npcs end up with them defeated before having an anime aura power-up while the party cowers and thinks they now can't win, and then some allies turn up to keep them occupied? It's ridiculous, it's like they have such a huge cast of characters on both sides that they want to keep stressing how cool they are and that they never lose anything, but it's done in such a unsatisfying way. Even the party members where the battle actually relates to their motivations/character development shrug and run on while yet more npcs turn up. The knight girl I KO'd in under four turns, and was looking forward to some answers about how she related to Laura, but nope. I wouldn't mind if it was just a handful of them but it's been almost every boss battle vs anyone of note throughout the entire game. I'm still enjoying it but it's gone beyond silly now. At least in Trails SC they left the field, leaving you victorious (if still a little unsatisfied). At this point it would be nice if, occasionally, a Trails game let you put an npc enforcer down permanently.
Also, why do all these tank commanders (Craig the Red and his protege), seem to have zero idea about basic strategy and believe in conducting armoured warfare at melee range while standing on top of a tank? All their most dangerous opponents are mechs with melee weapons! That's the kind of thing I expect from Warhammer 40k maniacs, not people lauded across the country for being strategic geniuses! Would have been nice to see someone point out that the difference in range between cannons and swords is a significant disadvantage, and perhaps to see a mech-using hero that's decided to actually make use of one with a rifle rather than dancing around with martial arts in a mech instead.
I mean, I know that rpgs worship melee combat but when the background is mechanised warfare it's all a bit silly that the best way to deal with a tank is to get in a mech with a spear and run at it while 'dodging' incoming shells, because the commanders don't realise they are allowed to start firing when you are more than thirty feet away.
A bit more focus on personal development of individual members of class VII beyond 'friendship is magic' and a bit less obsession with a cast of 30+ supporting characters that all apparently need to be showing off how cool they are even as the game heads towards its conclusion would really help.
A bit less of having Fie/Altina etc saying 'beginning combat' or 'ending hostilities' in such a stilted way, as if a brief scrap was a major operation, would be good too. It doesn't make them sound more martial/professional, it just sounds weird when the only people that care are right there with you and well aware that a fight has started/finished. Woeful dialogue.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
I meant on hold for Erebonia Part Two, because surely
Laura, Fie and Gaius's tales, at the very least, are not over yet? I hope? In any case, even if their character developments are already over over (nooo), what I'm getting at is how it felt like they blew all their load too much in CS1 instead of spreading them evenly across the two games, making many characters in the second game feel like they're doing nothing (with repeated conclusions).
Nightengale
Member
The introduction of the noble faction generals ( Aurelia and Bardius ) imo are signs Laura and Gaius ain't having their story arcs finished anytime soon.
I expect those two to be the respective rivals in CS3 once they've gained several years worth of power levels.
I expect those two to be the respective rivals in CS3 once they've gained several years worth of power levels.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Those characters don't have anything to do with them though
Yeah, that was cool, great to see. I was hoping they would make an appearance too
Nightengale
Member
They feel like setup for mirror rivals. One is super swordswoman who is master of two styles and another is the strongest Nord warrior and both are on the "evil" noble alliance faction.
That song was legitimately one of my favorites until I started mishearing the lyrics. It's almost completely ruined for me now :')
Ah right, I getcha, I getcha.
I felt that some of these arcs were spread out decently across both games, like in Elliot's case where the 2nd game mostly showcases just how much he's grown as a person, but in other cases it's like, "did you know that Gaius considers Erebonia to be his second home?? Just to be clear, he considers Erebonia to be his second home!" (repeat ad nauseam)
Hopefully CS3 does right by everyone and gives them all something to work with. Especially Machias... please, please, please put him in an interesting place by the 3rd game Falcom.
Hopefully CS3 does right by everyone and gives them all something to work with. Especially Machias... please, please, please put him in an interesting place by the 3rd game Falcom.
godisntheradio
Neo Member
i just finished 2-3, or rather, got to the stopover day.
i was not bothered by the slow start, but now that things started happening oh boy
i was legit shock about what happened in celdic, that was so low, but WAS the point? what was duke albarea hopping to accomplish with that? he wanted higher recognition in the four great houses i think but how was that supposed to work for that? i think in the stopover day at bareahard i'll have the chance to talk to him
Poor louise and rip otto, i liked them since the first field trip , i hope louise gets better
, i hope louise gets betteri was not bothered by the slow start, but now that things started happening oh boy
I'm not even sure what this means. I've had to stop at the beginning of the divertissement but if you mean
Osborne
his body had disappeared.
Yo kewlmyc what's up man, did you beat CS1 yet?
Seriously though, it's dangerous here and there are spoilers
I'm bored at work, cut me some slack.
Fine, I'll leave.
I was talking about
Toval. Avatar aside, you seemed like you were really digging him
Ah I see. It was nice to have him pop up again but I was naively hoping for an SC-style final chapter with everyone playable. His reappearance coincided with my other two favourites though who I took all the way through said final SC chapter.
BassForever
Member
Glad I've got that to look forward to, can't wait to have
adult party members
Elise and Alfin
I just remembered there was a pretty awesome Toval bit I didn't comment on, where they teased him about Carmelia. But I though she was
dead
Toval.
Hook him up with a bunch of cast quartz and watch him belt out ultra powerful artz instantly. Seriously, he with his signature item, he's hilariously OP.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
I went for his item specifically at the end of act 1 on my 2nd playthrough just so I could put it on Emma.
Kind of. But I think they've always hinted at
resurrection
I felt the same as you when I hit that point about
his body
one of the countries/leaders that has been manipulated by Ouroboros finally outmaneuvering them and hijacking their plan for themselves.
I think it's such an interesting development after the Liberl and Crossbell chapters, where everything more or less goes as planned for them throughout the entire game. And I'm really interested in seeing what conflict develops from that
Scrooge McDuck
Member
godisntheradio
Neo Member
i finished 2-3 for real this time, and damn, all that teasing about trails to zero and trails to azure, i swear if they don't announce localization of both by the end of next year, i'll start a japanese course, i know it'll take at least 4 years of studying before its enough for those two games but it'll probably be worth it