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The Marriage Ref thread of how does Jeff Zucker still have a job?

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otake said:
What comedy? The office is not funny anymore. 30 Rock I used to be a fan of but one day I just couldn't be bothered to stay up for it and I haven't watched it since, it's just not that funny.

I still don't know when they air Chuck or what it's about. I've seen a thread here about it, that's all I've ever seen of the show.

I laugh out loud watching shows like modern family, in the middle and how I met your mother. I don't remember the last time I laughed watching NBC.
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Chuck is on monday nights... and the Office isn't as amazing as it was during seasons 1-2, but its still a good show; 30 rock is a good show... you forgot Community, which right now is one of the best shows on TV imho, and Parks and Recreation, which has had an amazing second season... NBC has a solid 2 hour block of comedy shows
 
otake said:
What comedy? The office is not funny anymore. 30 Rock I used to be a fan of but one day I just couldn't be bothered to stay up for it and I haven't watched it since, it's just not that funny.

I still don't know when they air Chuck or what it's about. I've seen a thread here about it, that's all I've ever seen of the show.

I laugh out loud watching shows like modern family, in the middle and how I met your mother. I don't remember the last time I laughed watching NBC.
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NBC is the best regular network when it comes to content. Easily.
 
I watched the part with the husband and wife arguing over the stripper pole. And the laugh track was so overly used, it was ridiculous. This was in front of a live audience? It must have been pretty quiet then.
 
otake said:
What comedy? The office is not funny anymore. 30 Rock I used to be a fan of but one day I just couldn't be bothered to stay up for it and I haven't watched it since, it's just not that funny.

I still don't know when they air Chuck or what it's about. I've seen a thread here about it, that's all I've ever seen of the show.

I laugh out loud watching shows like modern family, in the middle and how I met your mother. I don't remember the last time I laughed watching NBC.
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You've laughed at The Middle? I think it's surpassed Two & A Half Men and Big Bang Theory as the worst comedy on tv for me.
 
Buckethead said:
I love Craig T and Marguerite Moreau but that Parenthood show looks to me like a reactionary stab at trying to be Modern Family. Hope that I'm wrong.
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Nay, Parenthood was supposed to premiere in September's but got delayed because Maura Tierney had to get treatment for breast cancer. Eventually she had to be replaced by Lauren Graham.
 
I dunno, the reactions seem pretty good to...


Bill Simmons said:
Would you rather watch dolphins get slaughtered, or would you rather sit through a second episode of The Marriage Ref?
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Oh...well...at least he gave an option. Some people might choose the latter.
 
I was really happy to hear that Seinfeld was doing something again... but this? Why isn't he writing a sitcom? He doesn't have to star in it... but write something. Not this.

Maybe it's one of those shows that gets better in time... like a wine. Right?
 
Dan said:
Nay, Parenthood was supposed to premiere in September's but got delayed because Maura Tierney had to get treatment for breast cancer. Eventually she had to be replaced by Lauren Graham.
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Hmm, I have a thing for both of those women, and would pay good money to see them do a lesbian scene.


Please?
 
God damn the show is just so..... absolutely bland.

If they had the balls to push the envelope on this, say a Tough Crowd-style panel, they might've gotten something out of it. At this rate, the Larry David/Ricky Gervais pair-up is about the closest they're going to get.

Or maybe if they had the couple get into their argument on live TV, instead of just showing up for the unenforceable "result."

And out of all the panelists, Jerry looked like he had the least to say. Maybe that was him dealing with the retardation of his own "produced" show, or he's just completely lost it.
 
I thought it was funny enough but to each his own. I'll keep tuning in for the time being personally. I can't wait to see Ricky and Larry together.
 
peterb0y said:
Chuck is on monday nights... and the Office isn't as amazing as it was during seasons 1-2, but its still a good show; 30 rock is a good show... you forgot Community, which right now is one of the best shows on TV imho, and Parks and Recreation, which has had an amazing second season... NBC has a solid 2 hour block of comedy shows
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Me giving both Community and Parks second and third chances have been documented in their respective threads. I find Parks bad, Amy Poeler is not likable or funny, none of the characters are. Community had a funny moment when Prof. Chang danced in one episode.

The writing on all these shows is just poor. Watch any episode of Moder Family or The Big Bang Theory, then go watch Community. Let me know how that works out.
 
otake said:
The writing on all these shows is just poor. Watch any episode of Moder Family or The Big Bang Theory, then go watch Community. Let me know how that works out.
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Seriously, you're insane.
 
gdt5016 said:
Seriously, you're insane.
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otake said:
The writing on all these shows is just poor. Watch any episode of Modern Family or The Big Bang Theory, then go watch Community. Let me know how that works out.
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I can agree with you that the writing on Modern Family is fantastic, but Big Bang Theory? The writing on that show is so mundane; it's such a typical CBS comedy. I tried to watch it once but the characters are so boring, so unlikable that I had to turn it off immediately.

Now, I'm not saying that Community is the best written comedy on TV, because it's not, but at the very least it has very detailed and interesting characters and, most of the time, a solid plot. I can't say the same for BBT in either of those categories.

On topic: I'm not sure how I feel about the Marriage Ref. As someone else said in the thread, it seems really strange that Seinfeld would come out of TV retirement to do such a low-brow reality-comedy show like this. I guess I'll check it out if only to see him and other greats (Baldwin, Gervais), but I'm really not expecting it to be worth anything.
 
I like to remember Seinfeld as he was in 1998 when he dropped out of the race. Before all this stupid shit. Remember Bee Movie? Never happened. Seinfeld never pushed this non-existent movie on every NBC viewer every 5 minutes for months. It never happened.

Rest in peace, 1998 Jerry Seinfeld.
 
otake said:
Me giving both Community and Parks second and third chances have been documented in their respective threads. I find Parks bad, Amy Poeler is not likable or funny, none of the characters are. Community had a funny moment when Prof. Chang danced in one episode.

The writing on all these shows is just poor. Watch any episode of Moder Family or The Big Bang Theory, then go watch Community. Let me know how that works out.
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this post explains a lot; we clearly have verrrrrry different tastes in comedy, although you might be the only one arguing that BBT has superior writing to any of the shows I listed
 
Funny Shows on TV
-Modern Family
-How i met your Mother
-Family Guy
-Big Bang Theory

Other Dramas
-True Blood
-Supernatural
-BIG LOVE
-Good Wife
-Caprica
-Life Unexpected

My Guilty pleasures
Hell's Kitchen/Kitchen nightmare
Castle
Vampire's Diary

NBC is pretty much not in my radar. Heroes just had their worst season, watched for the hell of it. The Office, SVU, are tired now IMO. 30Rock is good but not as crazy about it, its not "Must See" to me anymore.
 
nocode said:
This was really bad tonight. The commercial with Madonna standing up triumphantly after putting down Larry David made me want to puke. Larry better donkey punch her in the real episode or I'll be pissed off.
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I was about to mention this. Barf. Is there anything more pathetic than Madonna trying to outwit Larry David?

If I were him, I would have given that gross old bitch a swift kick to the snatch.
 
peterb0y said:
this post explains a lot; we clearly have verrrrrry different tastes in comedy, although you might be the only one arguing that BBT has superior writing to any of the shows I listed
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I think BBT is definitely held in higher regard by critics than Parks and Rec or Community if only for Jim Parsons. I haven't watched P&R after the first episode personally so I can't comment on it, but I do enjoy Community quite a bit. Between the two (BBT and Community), BBT is certainly a better show in my eyes. I like both though so no sweat off my back.

Modern Family is unquestionably the funniest show on TV though right now. Nothing is close.
 
DMeisterJ said:
It actually did very well last night, obviously it was retaining some from the closing ceremonies though.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/0...re-for-nbc-undercover-boss-working-hard/43277

It did a 4.8/13 with 14.8 million total viewers.

Nothing to scoff at.
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Yeah, I'd credit the ratings entirely to the Olympics. It will start tanking on Thursday, just like Leno did.

It seems pretty obvious that this is the result of NBC scrambling to fill up the air time vacated by Leno's move back to 11:35. They're just trying to hold themselves over until next fall when they can replace it with their next fucking stupid idea - whatever that may be.
 
BertramCooper said:
It seems pretty obvious that this is the result of NBC scrambling to fill up the air time vacated by Leno's move back to 11:35. They're just trying to hold themselves over until next fall when they can replace it with their next fucking stupid idea - whatever that may be.
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No, this isn't. This has been in the works for awhile. Way longer than the Conan/Leno debacle.
 
The saddest part of the whole show was watching Seinfeld fake-laugh his way through the entire damn thing, because he's trying so, so hard to sell it.

It was embarrassing.
 
peterb0y said:
this post explains a lot; we clearly have verrrrrry different tastes in comedy, although you might be the only one arguing that BBT has superior writing to any of the shows I listed
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I will admit, BBT isn't as well written as those others. Let's just say it's a guilty pleasure of mine, I find Sheldon funny.

Modern Family is very much a successor to arrested development. It's got that same kind of weird sarcastic and clever humor. The whole dog-butler thing seemed like something you would see in AD.

Community has got some cute girls but that's it.
 
It wasn't the worst thing I've seen, but I'm glad it won't last.

I like Modern Family, but not In The Middle as much.

Thursday nights, NBC has my full attention for Community, Parks & Rec, Office, and 30 Rock.
 
otake said:
Modern Family is very much a successor to arrested development. It's got that same kind of weird sarcastic and clever humor. The whole dog-butler thing seemed like something you would see in AD.
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Sure if your into pale imitations.

Wife wanted to watch this stupid show last night. I think a good episode would be "should we watch The Marriage Ref tonight?"

ANSWER = NO!
 
Girl: I'm probably going to go take a shower now, really naked and stuff, and you guys can come watch me if you want.

Sheldon: This sounds great! I can finally use my REMULON 5000 to measure the variable temperatures of hot water against female areola.

Girl: On second thought...

Hey I just wrote a hilarious scene for Big Bang Theory! Now let me try How I Met Your Mother...

Whiny Guy: Why can't me and this one girl just stay together?

Neil Patrick Harris: Because girls are bitchesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

Done. Both these shows are easy comedy, imo. Not a fan.
 
Can we please quit the "my taste in comedy is better than yours" whiny bitchfest and get back to talking about how the Marriage Ref sucks harder than a $2 hooker.
 
mj1108 said:
Can we please quit the "my taste in comedy is better than yours" whiny bitchfest and get back to talking about how the Marriage Ref sucks harder than a $2 hooker.
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Dude, 2 dollar hookers don't suck, that's why they are two dollar hookers. You're talking about the $5 hooker, the champagne of hookers.
 
mj1108 said:
Can we please quit the "my taste in comedy is better than yours" whiny bitchfest and get back to talking about how the Marriage Ref sucks harder than a $2 hooker..
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This comedy does not appeal to me. BOOOOOOOOO
 
Why are you guys convinced that this show will fail? Lots of well-known celebrities discuss "amusing" issues dealing with marriage. Plus, the show is probably very cheap to produce and airs just once a week. The vast majority of shows on television don't need to be quality to succeed, so why would this show be any different?
 
Socreges said:
Why are you guys convinced that this show will fail? Lots of well-known celebrities discuss "amusing" issues dealing with marriage. Plus, the show is probably very cheap to produce and airs just once a week. The vast majority of shows on television don't need to be quality to succeed, so why would this show be any different?
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What happens two months down the road when all they can get is Kathy Griffin, Brett Michaels, and Carrot Top?
 
BertramCooper said:
What happens two months down the road when all they can get is Kathy Griffin, Brett Michaels, and Carrot Top?
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We'll see. Since the show only airs once a week, I don't think Seinfeld will have much problem continuing to get good celebrities. Plus, if it does well in the ratings, and given the precedents, many will want their chance at the same exposure.

You could be right, though. But I don't think this show is destined to fail, shitty as it may be.
 
The critics agree - NBC's The Marriage Ref rocks!

NPR said:
"Painfully bad."
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Time said:
"...the most God-awful mishmash of a comedy-variety show...It proved that, if you are Jerry Seinfeld, NBC will put any program you want on the air, and will give you no network notes."
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AV Club said:
"I think I smiled maybe once in the entirety of the half-hour, and that may have been an involuntary reaction, some sort of Stockholm syndrome reaction to having to watch a full half-hour of the thing."
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New York Magazine said:
"...kinda terrible."
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Hartford Courant said:
"What do you do if you've managed to pull your network up from fourth place after two weeks of highly-rated Olympic Winter games? If you're NBC, you squander it immediately on an unfunny little thing called 'The Marriage Ref.'"
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TV.com said:
"I'm the first to admit that I have a pretty sweet gig. I get to watch TV for a living, and sometimes I even get to mingle with its stars while drinking free beer. But sometimes the job means sitting through horrible television. And last night's debut of The Marriage Ref may be the worst television I've seen in awhile."
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Anyone else as super-duper excited as I am about tonight's episode?
 
I got violently angry every time I had to sit through the commercial for this shit tonight while watching Community, etc.

Eva Longoria Parker - "I'm voting for the wife, the wife, and the wife for whatever the next one is!" Husband/wife humor has got to be the laziest humor there is. Even lazier than dick jokes.

Watching celebrities and a 1970s studio audience cackle at their horrible misreading of our appetite for this type of tripe just fills me with so much bile.

So much penis-like bile...
 
I watched 10 minutes of this and muted the volume and put my headphones back on. Terrible doesn't even begin to describe it. The next time I looked up at my TV I saw Jay Leno and Brett Favre conversing and I threw up in my mouth a little.

Fuckin' NBC.
 
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