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Vio-Lence said:
I caught anthrax the first time they reunited with Joey and Spitz in like 2004 at the chicago HOB. It was supposed to be a one off but of course they reunited in 2005 proper. Awesome greatest hits set list. Epic war dance too.
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did you have an INJUN hat like Joey Belladonna?

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I'll say that Bring The Noise is the only successful Rap Metal hybrid I've ever heard (the only other thing would probably be No Sleep 'Till Brooklyn). Probably because you have Public Enemy on the song. PE are legends.
 
new machine head album is called MACHINE HEAD - BLOODSTONE & DIAMONDS

track list

1. Now We Die
2. Killers & Kings
3. Ghosts Will Haunt My Bones
4. Night Of Long Knives
5. Sail Into The Black
6. Eyes Of The Dead
7. Beneath The Silt
8. In Comes The Flood
9. Damage Inside
10. Game Over
11. Imaginal Cells (instrumental)
12. Take Me Through The Fire

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obin_gam said:
Is Bolt Thrower dead or have there been any sound from them at all lately?
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I remember them saying that they thought Those Once Loyal was perfect, so they wouldn't bother to top it. I think I read, however, that they were considering a ninth studio album, so I wouldn't lose hope.

Flynn said:
I'd argue there's better/equal stuff on the Judgment Night soundtrack.
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Some of these couldn't hold a candle to PE (I. HATE. BABY. GOT. BACK). But there's some classic artists on this one too. Del is on this one.
 
MetalGuardian said:
I'll check out AtL with an open mind tomorrow, then. I'm expecting terrible results.
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You like Alestorm, so I wouldn't be surprised... >_>

Booze is an acquired taste, but sobriety is vastly overrated - it's worth the effort of learning to love the burn of dirty poison going through your body!
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I beg to differ.

Wait, you can't stand handhelds in general, or specifically MH3U on 3DS? Vanilla controls for that game are awful, but when you add that frankenstick into the mix? Smoother than Santana's velvety whore!
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Both. I don't have that additional analog stick so it was almost unplayable. It's probably okay with it, but handhelds start hurting my hands if I play them for prolonged periods of time. Even that plastic support thingy my boyfriend got for his 3DS didn't stop my hands from aching horribly. Plus having my necked leaning in to look at that tiny screen... ugh. No thanks. I still play my PSP on the plane but that's about it.
 
Well goddamn. New Pallbearer might become my first 10/10 in a long time. Could be my personal hype, but so far it blows away Sorrow, and I consider that one near perfect already.
 
ashley678 said:
new machine head album is called MACHINE HEAD - BLOODSTONE & DIAMONDS

track list

1. Now We Die
2. Killers & Kings
3. Ghosts Will Haunt My Bones
4. Night Of Long Knives
5. Sail Into The Black
6. Eyes Of The Dead
7. Beneath The Silt
8. In Comes The Flood
9. Damage Inside
10. Game Over
11. Imaginal Cells (instrumental)
12. Take Me Through The Fire

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hell yeah :D
 
Well son of a bitch

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Awful album art,
awesome
album

I realized the reason I didn't like the album originally is because of the vocals - they sometimes sound very thin and occasionally wispy, in the same vein as this live performance from our favorite Lump Bizquick sounds in this performance.

Unpalatable vocals used to be a huge turn off for me - and then I got into black metal, so that clearly doesn't bother me anymore. I even have grown to love Vio-Lence's singer!

Anyway, I'm crying for those mothafriggin' Indians right now because it took me too long to discover this album. I also checked out Spreading the Disease, and while nothing on that album is as good as the Queensryche song of the same name, it's still solid. From what you blokes have been saying, those are the only two essential Anthrax albums, right? I don't have much interest in continuing to explore their discography if it's going to be spotty, but at least I am filling in that glaring gap in my metal knowledge. Also, AtL and StD (<-- lol) are nowhere near Testament's The Legacy and The New Order, so I still think they should have been in the big four. Not that it matters, because what the fuck is the significance of having been a part of "the big four" now anyway? Nothing -- and as far as I can tell, Testament is currently more popular/successful than Anthrax, so all is right with the world.
 
I heard Richard Christy on the Howard Stern Wrap Up show today talking about his time with Death and the shows they played and pyrotechnics, etc. I couldn't help but listen to the legend, Chuck Schuldiner, and think of what metal could be today. The Flesh...live
 
MetalGuardian said:
From what you blokes have been saying, those are the only two essential Anthrax albums, right? I don't have much interest in continuing to explore their discography if it's going to be spotty, but at least I am filling in that glaring gap in my metal knowledge.
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Fistful of Metal is good, not as thrashy or that familiar sound we associate "classic" Anthrax with.
Armed and Dangerous is a great ep.
State of Euphoria is similar to Among The Living, but with a lot of filler songs. Hell, the production is nearly identical to Among The Living. Anti-Social is my favorite song off State of Euphoria.
Never got into Persistence in Time. It was a lot more complex, less tongue in cheek, and just dry sounding to me.
 
One thing I loved about seeing Havok live in such a small venue the other day was how personal the experience was compared to any of the festivals I've been to. Singing the lines along with the band members, while they are looking straight at you, less than a meter away, is a fucking awesome thing.

I've been checking YouTube over and over, hoping that someone has posted footage so I can re-live it.

No one has :(
 
MetalGuardian said:
Well son of a bitch

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Awful album art, album

I realized the reason I didn't like the album originally is because of the vocals - they sometimes sound very thin and occasionally wispy, in the same vein as this live performance from our favorite Lump Bizquick sounds in this performance.

Unpalatable vocals used to be a huge turn off for me - and then I got into black metal, so that clearly doesn't bother me anymore. I even have grown to love Vio-Lence's singer!

Anyway, I'm crying for those mothafriggin' Indians right now because it took me too long to discover this album. I also checked out Spreading the Disease, and while nothing on that album is as good as the Queensryche song of the same name, it's still solid. From what you blokes have been saying, those are the only two essential Anthrax albums, right? I don't have much interest in continuing to explore their discography if it's going to be spotty, but at least I am filling in that glaring gap in my metal knowledge. Also, AtL and StD (<-- lol) are nowhere near Testament's The Legacy and The New Order, so I still think they should have been in the big four. Not that it matters, because what the fuck is the significance of having been a part of "the big four" now anyway? Nothing -- and as far as I can tell, Testament is currently more popular/successful than Anthrax, so all is right with the world.
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Glad you liked it. :) Yeah the vocals are an acquired taste. Belladona kinda sounds like a punk vocalist, only, you know, talented. >_>

I'd say State of Euphoria and Persistence of Time are pretty excellent, but I never bothered with the rest.

Ironically, my first Anthrax song was Got the Time, which is a cover (and I didn't know about it of course... I was like 10 years old :P), but I found it strangely charming.
 
I saw Arch Enemy on Summer Breeze Festival a few days ago. Damn, Alissa is a beast. I don't think i've ever seen someone with her stage presence. Absolutely awesome. I seriously doubt Angela was better, although this was my first Arch Enemy gig...
 
Anyone heard of Enshine? I guess it is the continuation of Slumber.
I got linked to them trying to find an update on Rapture.
 
good album! USBM for some reason has always been a rather quiet phenomenon and I think unlike most scenes it never had an identity as far as sound, but there are some real classics. It all goes back to Grand Belial's Key, Von, Demoncy, Inquisition, Absu, Averse Sefira, Cult of Daath, Negative Plane...
 
Morrigan Stark said:
Glad you liked it. :) Yeah the vocals are an acquired taste. Belladona kinda sounds like a punk vocalist, only, you know, talented. >_>

I'd say State of Euphoria and Persistence of Time are pretty excellent, but I never bothered with the rest.

Ironically, my first Anthrax song was Got the Time, which is a cover (and I didn't know about it of course... I was like 10 years old :P), but I found it strangely charming.
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I liked Persistence of Time too, it's a more focused album, although they toned the rapid tempo changes down a lot which I think turned some fans off at the time, but I was into it. Their cover of Got the Time is brilliant. But, Among the Living is still probably their gold standard.
 
Black Witchery is more a part of the blackened death / war metal style than any sort of scene tied to the States. The term "USBM" mostly seems to be a tag for any black metal band from the US instead of a reference to any sort of movement with a signature sound. That said, Black Witchery are one of my least favorite black/death bands because they are just so complacently monotonous.
 
they could have left with Desecration, and it would have been fine. They could have produced it well, too, even better! I still love that LP, though, even if it's just a big muffled buzzsaw recording.

if we're gonna start talking about blackened death metal, let me get these off my chest.

Malthusian - MMXIII

Irkallian Oracle - Grave Ekstasis

Antediluvian - Through the Cervix of Hawaah

Impetuous Ritual - Relentless Execution of Ceremonial Excrescence

Mitochondrion - Parasignosis

Grave Miasma - Odori Sepulcrorum

this is my favorite kind of death metal right now.
 
MezzoForte said:
they could have left with Desecration, and it would have been fine. They could have produced it well, too, even better! I still love that LP, though, even if it's just a big muffled buzzsaw recording.

if we're gonna start talking about blackened death metal, let me get these off my chest.

Malthusian - MMXIII

Irkallian Oracle - Grave Ekstasis

Antediluvian - Through the Cervix of Hawaah

Impetuous Ritual - Relentless Execution of Ceremonial Excrescence

Mitochondrion - Parasignosis

Grave Miasma - Odori Sepulcrorum

this is my favorite kind of death metal right now.
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Great bands, my favorites are Antediluvian and Mitochondrion. But yeah, the bands in this style practice and take to the next level what Incantation and Portal have established; the extremely dark, overwhelming and cavernous atmospheres. It does seem to be an emergence of a new style in which that atmosphere is the goal rather than the individual riffs and song structure. An evolution of death metal even further into chaos and obscurity. I myself prefer blackened death more akin to Blasphemy, Revenge, Conqueror, Order From Chaos, Axis of Advance, Angelcorpse, etc... but this stuff is really cool too. I especially like the emphasis on mysticism in the imagery.
 
nailbombxx said:
Great bands, my favorites are Antediluvian and Mitochondrion. But yeah, the bands in this style practice and take to the next level what Incantation and Portal have established; the extremely dark, overwhelming and cavernous atmospheres. It does seem to be an emergence of a new style in which that atmosphere is the goal rather than the individual riffs and song structure. An evolution of death metal even further into chaos and obscurity. I myself prefer blackened death more akin to Blasphemy, Revenge, Conqueror, Order From Chaos, Axis of Advance, Angelcorpse, etc... but this stuff is really cool too. I especially like the emphasis on mysticism in the imagery.
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You're definitely right, the atmosphere is absolutely what these bands are all about. I really love that style because I tend to gravitate towards music that creates memorable atmosphere. Seems to be the stuff I latch on to the most. Don't get me wrong, I love Blasphemy/Revenge/Conqueror/etc too but they definitely scratch a different itch for me.
 
nailbombxx said:
Great bands, my favorites are Antediluvian and Mitochondrion. But yeah, the bands in this style practice and take to the next level what Incantation and Portal have established; the extremely dark, overwhelming and cavernous atmospheres. It does seem to be an emergence of a new style in which that atmosphere is the goal rather than the individual riffs and song structure. An evolution of death metal even further into chaos and obscurity. I myself prefer blackened death more akin to Blasphemy, Revenge, Conqueror, Order From Chaos, Axis of Advance, Angelcorpse, etc... but this stuff is really cool too. I especially like the emphasis on mysticism in the imagery.
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oh most definitely, you can't leave out the guys that started it all. I think the Angelcorpse is the only band from those listed for whom I don't own any LPs (because they average like 50 bucks each haha). I actually heard recently that Osmose is going to reissue everything they did on vinyl, so I will jump at that opportunity for sure.

all the J. Read and Helmkamp projects are among my favorites, with Order from Chaos being at the very top. Actually, if you guys weren't aware yet, THIS will be the compilation of all compilations to be released this year surely.

http://nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44310

I agree about the atmosphere being huge with the new wave of black/death, but I don't think it's necessarily at the expense of riffs. It's just that because of the way they flesh out their songs, everything just seems a bit doomier, noisier, more progressive, much moreso than any of the original bands sought to do themselves definitely.

and awww shiet, we're talking about Axis now, gonna take some pictures real quick.
 
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ARGH! Well I could have sword I had the Purify 10". Maybe I'm tripping. I did also have The List, but a few years ago I traded that and some other stuff for Order from Chaos LPs so I'm not too sad about that loss. Luckily that record isn't so expensive these days. Must hunt for another copy. Anyways yeah, love Axis of Advance, underrated in all of metal. Black/death that pushed the boundaries. The previous incarnation in Sacramentary Abolishment was also lethal as all hell. The band has gone on record saying that they won't approve any more reissues. Kind of irritating as they're not exactly easy to locate, at least The Distracting Stone isn't.
 
MezzoForte said:
all the J. Read and Helmkamp projects are among my favorites, with Order from Chaos being at the very top. Actually, if you guys weren't aware yet, THIS will be the compilation of all compilations to be released this year surely.
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fucking hail Helmkamp.

Speaking of Axis of Advance, Strike is fucking monumental. My favorite out of all the "chaoti-war/death/black metal" style akin to Revenge, Conqueror, Sacramentary Abolishment, etc.

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MezzoForte said:
Axis of Advance LPs
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Fuck man, kvlt as fuck. I have all of those on CD's. I envy your AoA//J. Read/Helmkamp collection.
 
MezzoForte said:
oh most definitely, you can't leave out the guys that started it all. I think the Angelcorpse is the only band from those listed for whom I don't own any LPs (because they average like 50 bucks each haha). I actually heard recently that Osmose is going to reissue everything they did on vinyl, so I will jump at that opportunity for sure.

all the J. Read and Helmkamp projects are among my favorites, with Order from Chaos being at the very top. Actually, if you guys weren't aware yet, THIS will be the compilation of all compilations to be released this year surely.

http://nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44310

I agree about the atmosphere being huge with the new wave of black/death, but I don't think it's necessarily at the expense of riffs. It's just that because of the way they flesh out their songs, everything just seems a bit doomier, noisier, more progressive, much moreso than any of the original bands sought to do themselves definitely.

and awww shiet, we're talking about Axis now, gonna take some pictures real quick.
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Oh, nice man, good taste. As for the other bands... I did not mean to imply that the riffs suck or anything like that, but rather I meant that the atmosphere is the standout feature among them. I agree that it is the songwriting, it is just so unorthodox in comparison to the waves of death metal before them that the emphasis is placed upon the overall atmosphere of the sound rather than the solid instrumentation and song structure. Some person described it as "post-death metal"... and as ridiculous as that sounds, it is sort of right. Would not want that to become a real label, though. Haha.

I am jealous of those Axis LPs. Fuuuuark. I only have them on CD. :(

Axis of Advance are like spongebob quality black/death
 
Giant Robot said:
fucking hail Helmkamp.

Speaking of Axis of Advance, Strike is fucking monumental. My favorite out of all the "chaoti-war/death/black metal" style akin to Revenge, Conqueror, Sacramentary Abolishment, etc.

Fuck man, kvlt as fuck. I have all of those on CD's. I envy your AoA//J. Read/Helmkamp collection.
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haha you're always on deck when I bust out this stuff. I actually have a few doubles that I might be able to off load sometime. Will let you know for sure.

nailbombxx said:
Oh, nice man, good taste. As for the other bands... I did not mean to imply that the riffs suck or anything like that, but rather I meant that the atmosphere is the standout feature among them. I agree that it is the songwriting, it is just so unorthodox in comparison to the waves of death metal before them that the emphasis is placed upon the overall atmosphere of the sound rather than the solid instrumentation and song structure. Some person described it as "post-death metal"... and as ridiculous as that sounds, it is sort of right. Would not want that to become a real label, though. Haha.

I am jealous of those Axis LPs. Fuuuuark. I only have them on CD. :(
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OK yeah for sure, you're right it definitely has become a sound of its own. I was actually going to specifically use "post-Incantation" to describe some of the ones I listed lol. Of course, labels like that should never become a thing.

B) it's funny because I can remember the time when I was looking for all these LPs like a maniac. Now that I have them just sitting out in the crates it's cool to just be able to flip through and play them. LP master race!

Andrew_Korenchkin said:
Makes me realize I have no album on Vinyl.
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when I started collecting, I barely started working but that's where ALL of my money was going lol. I gotta admit, it's a dangerous hobby for the wallet but listening to a record is just awesome. I mean most of the time I'm listening to music off my phone anyways so even CD listening has somewhat become a chore comparatively. What it all comes down to really is the ritual of listening to any physical release no matter what the format. With records, it just happens to be a little more euphoric for me lol.
 
malfcn said:
Anyone heard of Enshine? I guess it is the continuation of Slumber.
I got linked to them trying to find an update on Rapture.
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When Slumber split up, the remaining members formed two new bands: the aforementioned Enshine and Atoma. Unfortunately, Atoma are no longer active. Luckily, they released the excellent "Skylight" before they turned inactive (Atoma - Rainmen, if you're interested in finding out how they sound).

I reckon Enshine is more akin to Slumber than Atoma, but I personally prefer the Atoma record. Anyway, nice to see someone else know about 'em.:-)
 
i'm def going to be slamming the usbm recommendations. i've been meaning to get around to mitochondrion and never have.

anyway: i've been reading the pitchfork song list thread. i know pitchfork is stupid but i click it anyway (i suspect this is their business model) and i'd imagine a few people in this thread do also. has anyone else noticed they appear to have some kind of rule against making sure metal albums don't get best new music? the amount of metal albums that score high 7s to low 8s is fucking insane and has to be disproportionate to every other genre. here's a list of shit i recognized from doing a quick search of the last couple of years.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17576-portal-vexovoid/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17806-vhol-vhol/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17608-ken-mode-entrench/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17607-inter-arma-sky-burial/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17929-hessian-manegarmr/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17678-woe-withdrawal/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18255-locrain-return-to-annihilation/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18068-mouth-of-the-architect-dawning/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18395-subrosa-more-constant-than-the-gods/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18549-castevet-obsian/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18827-indian-from-all-purity/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19021-behemoth-the-satanist/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19074-pyrrhon-the-mother-of-virtues/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19269-agalloch-the-serpent-the-sphere/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19393-serpentine-path-emanations/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19421-tombs-savage-gold/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18620-inquisition-obscure-verses-for-the-multiverse/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18002-immolation-kingdom-of-conspiracy/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19381-eyehategod-eyehategod/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19457-dead-congregation-promulgation-of-the-fall/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18962-thou-heathen/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19029-woods-of-desolation-as-the-stars/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...x-the-white-goddess-a-grammar-of-poetic-myth/ (this album is dope btw)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18394-grave-miasma-odori-sepulcrorum/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17606-baphometic-chaosium/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17404-vanquish-in-vengeance/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18346-gorguts-colored-sands/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18360-carcass-surgical-steel/

none of which got best new music. only pallbearer and deafheaven have been chosen. it's fuckin weird. if i cared more i'd do a proper analysis of this.
 
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