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The Metal Thread |OT2| All Riffs, No Gifs

In Silence We Yearn is a great album.

Also, can we please for one moment appreciate how beautiful the names of post-rock bands are? Oh Hiroshima, Paint The Sky Red, God Is An Astronaut, We Lost The Sea, Those Who Ride With Giants and I could go on and on and on. The names just capture perfectly the mood this music creates.

True, i love Show Me a Dinosaur, lol.
 
Favorite live albums?

I'm not a huge live album guy, but after thinking about this:

Iron Maiden - Rock In Rio
The album is a fantastic showcase of Iron Maiden's return to form and the energy they had in the early 2000s. I'm a huge sucker for Brave New World and this album also has some bits of Blaze era songs which get a new life during this live performance. Also this being a recording of a single concert is something I appreciate.

Iced Earth - Alive In Athens
A monster of a package that also became the go-to recommendation when people asked a gateway to Iced Earth material (pre-Spotify). A fantastic line-up of songs from their whole career at the time of the recording. Some of their earlier stuff sounds way more energetic than on the studio recordings, Days of Purgatory included.
 
Favorite live albums?

Judas Priest - Unleashed In The East
Iron Maiden - Live After Death
Mayhem - Live in Leipzig
Slayer - Live Undead (fake live show)
Destruction - Live Without Sense
Pink Floyd - Live at Pompeii (as a film)
Accept - Staying A Life
Blind Guardian - Tokyo Tales (best era)

Morbid Angel - Entangled In Chaos (although the drums triggered as fuck, it's clean and intense)
Napalm Death - The Peel Sessions (fucking devastating! sheer brutality sounding)

Not a fan of stadium rock Scorpions, but World Wide Live has a great live atmosphere.
 
Favorite live albums?
With metal it's kinda hard. My favorite bands don't have live albums that come close to their actual live sound, production wise. They don't get the same attention from the get go.

So even if it's almost bootleg quality black Sabbath's past lives/live at last is a worthy collection that captures ther raw bombast of the early till mid 70s sound.
 
Not a huge Live Album person, not as much as a Live DVD/Blu Ray fan, but i guess these might be my favourites:

Sentenced - Buried Alive (By far my favourite metal live album)
Slayer - Decade of Aggression
Cannibal Corpse - Live Cannibalism
Ozzy Osbourne - Live & loud
Iced earth - Alive in Athens

If we are counting Hard Rock i would include:

Twisted Sister - Live at Hammersmith
Mr. Big - Live in San Francisco
Rainbow - On stage
 
Devin Townsend Project released a live box set a few years ago, it's incredible. Deconstruction, Addicted, Ki and Ghost all had a DVD and CD, played the whole albums live. Deconstruction live is a top tier live album.
 
These Slayer like bands keep coming. My Regime is not quite as similar to them as Hellbringer but still a likeness and I'm really digging their heavyness.

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Favorite live albums?

off the top of my head:

Metal:
Soilwork - Live in the Heart of Helsinki
Metallica - Through the Never
Devin Townsend - Ziltoild Live at the Royal Albert Hall
Opeth - Live at the Royal Albert Hall

Non-Metal:
Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere
Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize
Anathema - Universal
Pink Floyd - Pulse
Katatonia - Sanctitude
King Crimson - Absent Lovers
King Crimson - The Great Deceiver

Devin Townsend Project released a live box set a few years ago, it's incredible. Deconstruction, Addicted, Ki and Ghost all had a DVD and CD, played the whole albums live. Deconstruction live is a top tier live album.

Yeah I got this and it's pretty awesome. It's also rare as hell now apparently.
 
Favorite live albums?

Not sure it counts, but I've been listening to a ton of the two discs of live content that came with Judas Priests's "Defenders of the Faith" 30th anniversary reissue. Rob has a ton of energy in it.

Slayer's Decade of Agression is great.

Nonmetal - Nine Inch Nails - "And All That Could Have Been"; Front Line Assembly - "Live Wired", and lately I've been listening to lots of Switchblade Symphony's "Sweet, Little Witches"
 
Favorite live albums?
(Including DVDs)
Metallica - Live Seattle 1989 (one of the greatest live performance recordings ever)
Sepultura - Under Siege 1991
Faith No More - Live at the Brixton Academy
Alice In Chains - MTV Unplugged
Misfits - Evilive
Mayhem - European Legions Live in Marseille 2000
 
I don't care for live albums myself. Something just doesn't feel right. Even if their made from a video. I either want studio discs or live videos. I guess I like to watch the act on stage and see the crowd react or just hear their stuff without crowd sounds.
 
If you like the two first albums of Carcass, I recommend these two Finnish bands from the early 90's:
Xysma - Above the Mind of Morbidity EP
Disgrace - Inside the Labyrinth of Depression demo
Love the wet bubbling growls they have, and the guitar sound on Disgrace's demo.
I haven't heard either before, good stuff. Thanks! I've looked up Xysma before but I know their genre changed quite a bit over time, never found anything I liked enough to get into.

I think I prefer the Xysma recording, despite the guitar tone being fizzy garbage haha. I don't mind the Disgrace vocals but usually I prefer if those style are mixed with other stuff, otherwise it's all kind of monotone. Still cool though

I've been on a Dead Infection kick for a long while now, working on getting a project along those lines going with a friend of mine haha. I just love that style, perfect mix of From Enslavement era Napalm with the twisted evil of old Carcass
 
Deafheaven and Carcass are playing the local theater on campus in November and it's the same night as my once a week screenwriting class which you're absolutely not supposed to skip and I'm like what do I do.
 
Deafheaven and Carcass are playing the local theater on campus in November and it's the same night as my once a week screenwriting class which you're absolutely not supposed to skip and I'm like what do I do.
If you're taking the class and it's something you care about then I'd recommend not skipping. Carcass will be back and Deafheaven will hopefully break up ;)
 
If you're taking the class and it's something you care about then I'd recommend not skipping. Carcass will be back and Deafheaven will hopefully break up ;)

Do we not like Deafheaven what is this nonsense.

See it's complicated because my teacher is missing a class in November but she hasn't given us a date and now I really need a date lol. Monday shows are the most inconvenient thing.
 
I feel like I listen to less metal live dvds and CDs than other music live. Metal already has a bit of an edge to it so translating it to a live environment I feel doesn't do a ton whereas a lot of other rock I listen to is so pristine that a live version really takes it to a different dimension.
 
Do we not like Deafheaven what is this nonsense.

See it's complicated because my teacher is missing a class in November but she hasn't given us a date and now I really need a date lol. Monday shows are the most inconvenient thing.
How late is your class? Are there any openers? Maybe you could swing both unless it's a late class or early show

Being in Chicago we're lucky to usually have tours planned so shows happen in the Friday-Sunday window but yea, the random Monday or Tuesday show can be annoying (especially if it's a really late 21+ show).

And yea not a fan of Deafheaven. Especially touring with Carcass, lineup diversity is one thing but that really doesn't make sense. They played an offdate here from that horrendous Chicago Open Air fest and I didn't bother going
 
Favorite live albums?

Priest - Unleashed in the East
Motorhead - No Sleep Til Hammersmith
Thin Lizzy - Life
Sabbath - Live Evil
Rush - Exit Stage Left

The standards really.

I feel like I listen to less metal live dvds and CDs than other music live. Metal already has a bit of an edge to it so translating it to a live environment I feel doesn't do a ton whereas a lot of other rock I listen to is so pristine that a live version really takes it to a different dimension.

Yeah I hear you on that. It seems like the live album is a dying art these days. It used to be a big deal when artists released a double-album live record but these days live albums are almost treated like catalog filler. In many ways though, those "classic" live albums were pretty contrived with in-studio overdubs and vocal-corrections and so forth, but they sound great and they're fun to listen to.
 
One of the worst "live" tracks I've heard is Vio-Lence's live in Tokyo. It's one or two songs on (I think) Torture Tactics. They used a recording of a intro from the show, then blatantly cut to a reverbed to shit version of the studio recording, with a clearly in studio "ALL RIGHT TOOOKYOOOOOO"

It's the worst, not even a "live in studio" deal
 
Yeah I hear you on that. It seems like the live album is a dying art these days. It used to be a big deal when artists released a double-album live record but these days live albums are almost treated like catalog filler. In many ways though, those "classic" live albums were pretty contrived with in-studio overdubs and vocal-corrections and so forth, but they sound great and they're fun to listen to.

I don't mind overdubs and stuff. My main attraction to live releases is just the change in energy and style of a song. If that's done partially in studio, then so be it.

I also tend to listen to live releases kind of like a guilt free "greatest hits" sort of thing. It feels cohesive (probably because they were actually all played at the same time and at least they were mixed the same), and it gets through an artists big songs usually. That's why I tend to listen to full album play through live discs much much less than other live sets. I often tend to feel like that's pointless. I have the album. I can listen to that at any time.
 
One of the worst "live" tracks I've heard is Vio-Lence's live in Tokyo. It's one or two songs on (I think) Torture Tactics. They used a recording of a intro from the show, then blatantly cut to a reverbed to shit version of the studio recording, with a clearly in studio "ALL RIGHT TOOOKYOOOOOO"

It's the worst, not even a "live in studio" deal

The Officer Nice song? The worst is that Sean Killian says "Gong Hey Fat Choy" which is not even Japanese.
Pan-Thy-Monium has a deliberate take on a fake live song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAwhdVZs1cc

I'm in a Ghoul / Impaled mood lately. These two bands have almost the same lineup.

Ghoul is mostly Thrash Metal in terms of riffing, while the vocals are Death Metal styled, with a lot of silly lyrics that I appreciate. Maniaxe, Splatterthrash and Dungeon Bastards are great albums.

Impaled is Death Metal with a big Carcass influence, but IMO better than them. Mondo Medicale is a great album.

Musically, Impaled is closer to Dismember/Impetigo with heavy Carcass themes. In fact, I'm sure that they've admitted to be more influenced with the slice 'n dice riffs of Dismember. Mondo Medicale is an amazing album though, I was a huge fan of it when it came out.
As far as early Carcass clones: old General Surgery, The County Medical Examiners, Rotten Sound, Necrony, old Exhumed, Xysma, Pathologist + there million side projects.

I've been on a Dead Infection kick for a long while now, working on getting a project along those lines going with a friend of mine haha. I just love that style, perfect mix of From Enslavement era Napalm with the twisted evil of old Carcass

Napalm Death - Mentally Murdered ep is the perfect transition between old Napalm Death/old Carcass, well because Bill Steer wrote both albums simultaneously. I'm sure you knew that though :)
 
There are some live albums that bring much more to the songs for me personally, such as Priest's Unleashed. All of the songs on that album are superior to their studio versions.
For me I much prefer the live versions of Blackened and Master of Puppets, just so much more fierce than their studio counterparts. Creeping Death too.
 
In my opinion, great bands or single artists that are really talented ALWAYS improve their creations during a live performance with a new arrangement, intro, improvised extended solo, whatever, so... yeah I love live albums.
 
Deafheaven: meh studio, decent live. Wouldn't go out of my way to see them again, but with Carcass? Sure!

Live albums: love em. Gotta be a good mix of band and audience though. Ones like Meshuggahs Ophidian Trek sounds so studio, why bother?
 
Yessir

I love Decade of Aggression and Live Shit:Binge and Purge 89'
There's a certain energy you get from those live shows is surreal

Do you mean the Seattle show from Live Shit or the entire package?

The show was from 89 but they didn't release the box set until 93.

That was an amazing 2 night's of Metallica in Seattle. They just crushed it both nights.
 
Do you mean the Seattle show from Live Shit or the entire package?

The show was from 89 but they didn't release the box set until 93.

That was an amazing 2 night's of Metallica in Seattle. They just crushed it both nights.
The Seattle show
I feel that the 93 show is too produced and ruins some of the live aspect and the Seattle performances are just more exciting
 
The Seattle show
I feel that the 93 show is too produced and ruins some of the live aspect and the Seattle performances are just more exciting
The 92 video and 93 audio come nowhere close to 89

They're also on the tail end of James' voice before giving out. Even Jason sounds weak on them, whereas 89 was perrrrfect.
 
My favorite live albums:

Iced Earth - Alive in Athens
Blind Guardian - Live
Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
Deep Purple - Made in Japan

Rainbow - On Stage would be up there if Ritchie could stop dicking around for 5 seconds and play some god damn songs.
 
I haven't heard either before, good stuff. Thanks! I've looked up Xysma before but I know their genre changed quite a bit over time, never found anything I liked enough to get into.

I think I prefer the Xysma recording, despite the guitar tone being fizzy garbage haha. I don't mind the Disgrace vocals but usually I prefer if those style are mixed with other stuff, otherwise it's all kind of monotone. Still cool though

I've been on a Dead Infection kick for a long while now, working on getting a project along those lines going with a friend of mine haha. I just love that style, perfect mix of From Enslavement era Napalm with the twisted evil of old Carcass

Yeah, the post-EP rock stuff of Xysma never appealed to me either. Their more grindy Swarming of the Maggots demo, that preceded the EP, is pretty good though.

I managed to see both of them live in the early 90's, and the two vocalists really added to Disgrace's live presence. The growler Mr. Stranius, who died 10 years ago, played in Xysma as well.

Speaking of Dead Infection, their grind drums mix of Stayin' Alive is hilarious: https://youtu.be/mutgNJsppRY
 
Speaking of live stuff, live DVDs that don't come with CDs or where there aren't any ways to listen to the audio really suck. I want to get the most out of my money and listen more but if it's not available...

Example is The Ocean's Collective Oblivion. Really want to hear that more but it didn't come with any CDs.
 
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