Ninja Scooter
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I hope that biznitch Danielle is gone next. God if there is one thing i hate its people who take the game TOOOOOOO seriously ("Oh James Chilltown will feel my wrath!!") and her constant crying is annoying too.
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Ninja Scooter
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h1nch said:
:lol wasn't that Will's fantasy? "Kaysar, what are you doing here?" "Chilltown." "Marcellus how'd you get here?" "...Chilltown."
personally i hope they catch on to her and i think they will. The thing that seperates chilltown from the other good players is they never wear their emotions on their sleeve. People like James or Danielle make it too obvious who their friends and enemies are and who they are gunning for (and again, take the game too goddamn seriously).
Ninja Scooter
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Diablos said:
if thats the case, they should lobby to get rid of
Chicken George. One less potential person to align with sorryass Danielle. I don't think Janelle wants to help her
Whatever...James was the only S6er to see the immediate need(key difference...none of this "oh i'm not scared of them, we can worry about them later" crap) to get rid of Will/Boogie and stop playing lil "you scratch my back i'll scratch yours" games with them...if they were gone(especially pre-jury), you wouldn't have to worry about having your back scratched. Howie's an idiot, Kaysar kept trying to stir up the pot yet left the rotten eggs in, and Janelle's focus was entirely ill-directed, and she thought she was charming Will when all the while she was the one being charmed.
It is not backstabbing when you bend over backwards to accomodate your "teammates" yet that same gesture is not returned in the slightest. 4 weeks of loyalty was ample time. Look how wasted James' HOH was because he acted "for the team"...if he were allowed to get rid of Will or Boogie then, ALL of S6 would reaping the benefits now!
And what's wrong with Danielle? She's a mother...she's not thinking about frivolous trips, plasma TVs, plastic surgery or pimped out cars...to her, winning is college tuition for her children, financial security for her mom and other loved ones, probably paying off dept, etc...it's a whole different game for her, as it is any time you don't just play for yourself.
It is not backstabbing when you bend over backwards to accomodate your "teammates" yet that same gesture is not returned in the slightest. 4 weeks of loyalty was ample time. Look how wasted James' HOH was because he acted "for the team"...if he were allowed to get rid of Will or Boogie then, ALL of S6 would reaping the benefits now!
And what's wrong with Danielle? She's a mother...she's not thinking about frivolous trips, plasma TVs, plastic surgery or pimped out cars...to her, winning is college tuition for her children, financial security for her mom and other loved ones, probably paying off dept, etc...it's a whole different game for her, as it is any time you don't just play for yourself.
I disagree, if it wasn't CT putting their knife in S6 back .. it would have been Nakomis/Jase/Diane (who all had an alliance). Getting rid of those people (who actually WIN HoH and Veto comps) were a bigger danger than CT. Janelle was lucky to get the heads up about them ahead of time.
What should have happened is after the Diane eviction, S6 should have went to the floaters and made their peace and try to get CT out then. But, even then it was too late, because LOD had been formed (and Erica was in CT+3).
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Nice post from Jack. Good to see him in the mix, he was my favorite from his season.
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Big veto competition going on tonight. Could decide be the turning point of the game.
What should have happened is after the Diane eviction, S6 should have went to the floaters and made their peace and try to get CT out then. But, even then it was too late, because LOD had been formed (and Erica was in CT+3).
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Nice post from Jack. Good to see him in the mix, he was my favorite from his season.
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Big veto competition going on tonight. Could decide be the turning point of the game.
Jack should have been on, he seems like a smart dude. He and George could've been the older men of the house.
Anyway. As BB7 approaches the final stretch... I'm totally disappointed. What do you guys think about everyone left? I really don't want anyone in there to win. They all suck. I guess the ONLY ones I wouldn't mind winning would be Will and Danielle. But Will already won. Best player of all time yadda yadda yadda, I know.
Watch someone completely useless like ****ing Erika win this game. Eww. She is the worst floater in the history of BB (because she's clearly the best floater -- floater meaning LAZY). She does nothing, I mean absolutely nothing. She only won the first HoH she was "supposed" to because of technical problems, had everything been even from question number one, she wouldn't have had a chance in hell. She only won this HoH because the numbers are shrinking therefore making it a lot easier. She is not an All Star. Should've picked that Dana girl, or had some other people from BB4 in the initial lineup.
I don't want to see Boogie win it all. Someone needs to get rid of his cocky ass right now.
Danielle, eh, I like her enough... honestly, she may end up being the only one I seriously do want to win. BB3 is the best BB (of the ones that I have seen of course... BB3, 5, 6.)
Chicken George I still like 100%. He's a nice guy. And unlike Erika, although George is definitely less active too, he tries really hard. If he won, that would be cool. This is his first BB if you ask me. BB1 was nothing like this.
Janelle... :lol She has it all for competitions (best player EVER in that regard), but no brains this year. Send her home please. Enough.
Will: Already explained above. Ditto for Boogie and Erika.
Anyway. As BB7 approaches the final stretch... I'm totally disappointed. What do you guys think about everyone left? I really don't want anyone in there to win. They all suck. I guess the ONLY ones I wouldn't mind winning would be Will and Danielle. But Will already won. Best player of all time yadda yadda yadda, I know.
Watch someone completely useless like ****ing Erika win this game. Eww. She is the worst floater in the history of BB (because she's clearly the best floater -- floater meaning LAZY). She does nothing, I mean absolutely nothing. She only won the first HoH she was "supposed" to because of technical problems, had everything been even from question number one, she wouldn't have had a chance in hell. She only won this HoH because the numbers are shrinking therefore making it a lot easier. She is not an All Star. Should've picked that Dana girl, or had some other people from BB4 in the initial lineup.
I don't want to see Boogie win it all. Someone needs to get rid of his cocky ass right now.
Danielle, eh, I like her enough... honestly, she may end up being the only one I seriously do want to win. BB3 is the best BB (of the ones that I have seen of course... BB3, 5, 6.)
Chicken George I still like 100%. He's a nice guy. And unlike Erika, although George is definitely less active too, he tries really hard. If he won, that would be cool. This is his first BB if you ask me. BB1 was nothing like this.
Janelle... :lol She has it all for competitions (best player EVER in that regard), but no brains this year. Send her home please. Enough.
Will: Already explained above. Ditto for Boogie and Erika.
Ninja Scooter
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ToxicAdam said:
i don't that would have worked. Season6 made themselves the ultimate target simply by existing. Chilltown was (and still is, it seems shockingly) seen as sort of harmless the way people just kept letting them get by. The rest of the alliances were secret.
Ninja: That's kind of what I was getting at. There wasn't any way for S6 to win this. Especially after they won 4 straight HoH. It was just a matter of time, really.
Diablos: I don't know what season you are watching. This is the best season ... maybe ever? They were so many alliances and sub-alliances. It beats the shit out of season 6, which was like watching Red team v Blue team. Season 5 started out great (Twin twist and the four horseman), but devolved into Drew and Cowboy riding on Diane's coattails. Season four was horrible. Maybe season 3 was better.
But this has been great. Imagine what a shitty show this would have been if Dani/Janelle/CT were eliminated early? I don't think there is any question (aside from CG) that these players are the best of the best. Erica has played a flawless game. Floating is hard to do with a group of sharks.
Diablos: I don't know what season you are watching. This is the best season ... maybe ever? They were so many alliances and sub-alliances. It beats the shit out of season 6, which was like watching Red team v Blue team. Season 5 started out great (Twin twist and the four horseman), but devolved into Drew and Cowboy riding on Diane's coattails. Season four was horrible. Maybe season 3 was better.
But this has been great. Imagine what a shitty show this would have been if Dani/Janelle/CT were eliminated early? I don't think there is any question (aside from CG) that these players are the best of the best. Erica has played a flawless game. Floating is hard to do with a group of sharks.
:lolToxicAdam said:
Ok, ok... perhaps it is a better season than 5 and 6. It's just that there could have been a lot of better players in that house instead of Erika, Diane, Jase, Howie, and Mardumbass.
You know me, I get worked up over little details, but the little details this season are really sticking out.
You say last year was one team vs. the other, which is true. This year it's like the Dr. Will show, though. There's S6 who could barely make any good decisions, then there's James thinking he could actually play both sides of the house, and then there's Will shouting off orders.
I totally disagree with you about Erika though.
James interview:
I called it weeks ago; they definitely should have got Boogie out.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah, leaving Boogie in the house as long as they have was their biggest mistake. that, and actually listening to will.
The jury will unlikely vote for Will to win the game as he already won the game back in Season 2.
But boogie on the other hand...
The jury will unlikely vote for Will to win the game as he already won the game back in Season 2.
But boogie on the other hand...
Boogie will probably win this game. Janelle wont take out Boogie, she is close to CT. Will & Erika obviously wont. [Assuming Danielle doesn't go up and George goes home] that leaves Danielle. And Danielle is more or less gone at this point since next week the only people playing for HOH is Janelle, Will, Boogie, and Danielle. That is 3 to 1 odds against her.
Boogie has won this game unless the final 3 is Janelle, Will, and Boogie and Janelle wins the final HOH(she would take Will to to the final 3 over Boogie).
Boogie has won this game unless the final 3 is Janelle, Will, and Boogie and Janelle wins the final HOH(she would take Will to to the final 3 over Boogie).
What the hell? What the hell was up with the repeated "Danelle lost her mind" crap? What the hell do you expect? Was she supposed to laugh and frolic around and braid Erika's hair after that? Anytime the "token black" person shows some anger, they're "crazy". Reminds me of Dave Chappelle's "Mad Real World" skit.
Danelle did exactly what I would have...follow Will to her HOH room, and repeatedly knock or ring the bell. You want to ignore me? Fine, but i'll certainly do what I can to make it not be a comfortable experience for you in the meantime.
****ing Erika...she expected Danelle to respect this decision? It was a backstab and a backdoor...at least when James (begrudgingly) did it to Jase, he knew what it meant, that it spoke badly on the integrity of his word, and that it was a shitty move...but this non-biodegradable bitch expected some kind of "warrior's honor" recognition? You're not Janelle...hell you're just a less gassy version of Chicken George when it comes down to it. How low are you that you're sleeping with Boogie and HE'S the one benefitting from it game-wise...how low are you that the "other woman" in his life is a man? Enjoy your fate.
Julie Chen: "So Erika, how are you coping now that you've just been Dianed, and with the fact that at least Drew, unlike Boogie, was cute enough to be worth it?"
Danelle did exactly what I would have...follow Will to her HOH room, and repeatedly knock or ring the bell. You want to ignore me? Fine, but i'll certainly do what I can to make it not be a comfortable experience for you in the meantime.
****ing Erika...she expected Danelle to respect this decision? It was a backstab and a backdoor...at least when James (begrudgingly) did it to Jase, he knew what it meant, that it spoke badly on the integrity of his word, and that it was a shitty move...but this non-biodegradable bitch expected some kind of "warrior's honor" recognition? You're not Janelle...hell you're just a less gassy version of Chicken George when it comes down to it. How low are you that you're sleeping with Boogie and HE'S the one benefitting from it game-wise...how low are you that the "other woman" in his life is a man? Enjoy your fate.
Julie Chen: "So Erika, how are you coping now that you've just been Dianed, and with the fact that at least Drew, unlike Boogie, was cute enough to be worth it?"
Erika has absolutely no confidence whatsoever and she proved it tonight. She's a walking skeleton (just look at her body) for perverted masochists. She sucks compared to EVERYONE. Even George is smarter. She will never win this game. She should have asked herself if she wanted to get evicted by Danielle by a means of her getting that HoH instead of her, or getting kicked out by Chill Town because she was being used. SHE KNOWS that Boogie is in it to win it with Will. Who does Dani have? No one! Erika is dumb if she really thinks she's in Chill Town.
She was going to put up Will. Do you realize she would have gone from being the ultimate floater in the game to the one person who finally didn't listen to Boogie and Will and split them up? It would have been perhaps the smartest move of the entire ****ing season. She would have redefined her gameplan from being lazy and sheepish to smart. But too bad, she just solidified herself as the ultimate floater who is also Boogie's bitch.
She was going to put up Will. Do you realize she would have gone from being the ultimate floater in the game to the one person who finally didn't listen to Boogie and Will and split them up? It would have been perhaps the smartest move of the entire ****ing season. She would have redefined her gameplan from being lazy and sheepish to smart. But too bad, she just solidified herself as the ultimate floater who is also Boogie's bitch.
Continue to bow down to the Chill Town gods. I mean seriously, you couldn't WRITE shit like that!
You have to see it through Erika's eyes. She thinks she is the third wheel in chill town, and thinks that Janelle is going after CT. So, of course she will get rid of Danielle. She thinks that Janelle will win next HoH, then put up Will and Boogie. She can vote out Will, then compete against Boogie/CG for the next HoH. Those are pretty good odds in her mind. Then she can try to get out Jani ... and then easily beat Boog or CG in the final two.
I just can't believe Erika told Dani ahead of time. WTH was she thinking? Did she think it was doing Danielle a favor?
From a strategy viewpoint, it's a pretty solid plan. BUT, little does she know that Janelle is the CT third wheel. She is going to win the next HoH and put up Erika and CG.
If you haven't heard yet ... Thursday is going to be a double eviction night. They are going to compress one week into one hour. Should be frantic. Kind of sucks, IMO, it will take away from some of the scheming that would normally occur.
You have to see it through Erika's eyes. She thinks she is the third wheel in chill town, and thinks that Janelle is going after CT. So, of course she will get rid of Danielle. She thinks that Janelle will win next HoH, then put up Will and Boogie. She can vote out Will, then compete against Boogie/CG for the next HoH. Those are pretty good odds in her mind. Then she can try to get out Jani ... and then easily beat Boog or CG in the final two.
I just can't believe Erika told Dani ahead of time. WTH was she thinking? Did she think it was doing Danielle a favor?
From a strategy viewpoint, it's a pretty solid plan. BUT, little does she know that Janelle is the CT third wheel. She is going to win the next HoH and put up Erika and CG.
If you haven't heard yet ... Thursday is going to be a double eviction night. They are going to compress one week into one hour. Should be frantic. Kind of sucks, IMO, it will take away from some of the scheming that would normally occur.
I think the ep will be interesting. Hopefully Chill Town will get split up. I want Boogie to leave. I do not like this guy at all.
I would like to see Will or George win. I'd say Janelle, because she is the best competetor ever, but she's made so many dumb decisions on the strategic level. I'd also say Danielle, but forget that now!
I would like to see Will or George win. I'd say Janelle, because she is the best competetor ever, but she's made so many dumb decisions on the strategic level. I'd also say Danielle, but forget that now!
Oh, and i'm glad Danelle mentioned to Erika that she won't be getting her vote in the jury(assuming the very remote possbility that Erika is final 2)...let the bitch know...in this part of the game evictions have repercussions. So she's lost an ally and a vote, in exchange for...more Boogie-flogging?
Systems_id
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If Will does make it to the final then they have no choice but to vote for him. He's played everyone, and I mean EVREYONE in that house like a ****ing fiddle. I can't believe he just might get away with it when it's obvious he should have been out day one.
Systems_id
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Especially since the entire house knows what Will's capable of. It's looking like he may end up winning it all barring any major screw ups.Diablos said:
It's funny. Last night I watched the first episode (I missed it when it aired) on the CBS website. Will basically says, "People are idiots for not voting me out first. The longer I stay in, the more dangerous I become." Then they cut to four or five different HG (James, Diane, Jase, etc) saying that they need to get rid of Will ASAP. But they didn't do it! It was wierd watching it in retrospect.
I really blame it on Kaysar. He had the HoH the second week and had his chance. But, had to go after the Season 5 alliance instead.
I really blame it on Kaysar. He had the HoH the second week and had his chance. But, had to go after the Season 5 alliance instead.
I think the S5 alliance would have been deadly. They could have been really really stealthy. The three of them did not get along with one another at all so it would have been easy to look like they were kind of independent. But they could have just as easily had a secret super tight alliance. That never happened though, for obvious reasons.
To Kaysar's credit, while he would have been smarter to get rid of Will and Boogie, he and his alliance completely wiped an entire season out before they even had a fighting chance. That is pretty badass.
To Kaysar's credit, while he would have been smarter to get rid of Will and Boogie, he and his alliance completely wiped an entire season out before they even had a fighting chance. That is pretty badass.
CaptainABAB
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If Danielle and Janelle were smart they would have secretly teamed up a while ago.
Will is the best player in BB history.
Oh, and **** Danielle. I'm glad she's getting tossed. Serves her right for taking the game so seriously. Chilltown will feel my wrath? Give me a ****ing break. You're nothing but a circus freak. The network is making millions off of you in return for what? A miniscule chance at a cash prize? Being seperated from the outside world? Eating slop? Just accept it for what it is, a game and try to have some fun with it. If Will got put on the block and voted out he wouldn't give a rat's ass. He realizes how ridiculous the whole situation is. He's just in it to have a good time, and get his botox-enhanced mug on TV. The same goes for Boogie. These guys are just having a good time taking people out one by one.
Oh, and **** Danielle. I'm glad she's getting tossed. Serves her right for taking the game so seriously. Chilltown will feel my wrath? Give me a ****ing break. You're nothing but a circus freak. The network is making millions off of you in return for what? A miniscule chance at a cash prize? Being seperated from the outside world? Eating slop? Just accept it for what it is, a game and try to have some fun with it. If Will got put on the block and voted out he wouldn't give a rat's ass. He realizes how ridiculous the whole situation is. He's just in it to have a good time, and get his botox-enhanced mug on TV. The same goes for Boogie. These guys are just having a good time taking people out one by one.
Ninja Scooter
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YES!! **** YES!!! At this point i dont' care who wins the game, chicken george could take it for all i care. Chilltown dismantled Season 6 like a bunch of amateurs, and then finally got rid of that annoying bitch Danielle, driving her to the brink of sanity :lol Will is a god. Plain and simple. Everyone else bow down.
Yah, competing for $500,000 is "just a game" *rolleyes*
Will would care, he's just poker-facing his way to the end...if he didn't care he'd have left already, so don't feed me that crap. That's all anyone in the house who thinks that Will "doesn't care" needs to ask themselves...why is he still there? You can't compare Will's BB existence to Danielle's...Will won already, Danielle hasn't, Will's all about himself...Danielle's playing for her family. Totally different outlooks. Pardon me if I care more about a wife and mother than a couple of fratboy-esque assclowns.
Will would care, he's just poker-facing his way to the end...if he didn't care he'd have left already, so don't feed me that crap. That's all anyone in the house who thinks that Will "doesn't care" needs to ask themselves...why is he still there? You can't compare Will's BB existence to Danielle's...Will won already, Danielle hasn't, Will's all about himself...Danielle's playing for her family. Totally different outlooks. Pardon me if I care more about a wife and mother than a couple of fratboy-esque assclowns.
You clearly don't understand my criteria.ToxicAdam said:
Cowboy was a complete, and I mean complete moron who contributed nothing and Ivette was basically the same way. Kind of like Erika. They all have one thing in common: being a leech. Danielle actually tries to set things in motion and is a good enough competetor. I factor in personality and gameplay. Will and Boogie are just there to act like snobby fratboys and win the money.
If Will won, I wouldn't be pissed because he is a good player even if stuck on himself. But Boogie only got this far because of Will. I don't think he is much better than Erika. He's the Howie of Chill Town. Will is Kaysar, James and Janelle rolled into one.
This game now is far too easy to predict now. The final 3 will be one of two outcomes.
Next HOH players:
Janelle
Boogie
Will
George
George won't win and Janie would put up George & Erika. Boogie would do Janie & George and Will would like Janie do George & Erika. George is pretty much a goner since Chill Town will control the votes and they have alliances with Janie and Erika.
After that either Janie or Erika will leave. Boogie/Erika would get Janelle out and Will/Janelle would get Erika out.
The final 3 will be Will, Boogie, and either Erika or Janelle.
Janelle would beat either Will or Boogie, Will would beat Boogie, and both Will and Boogie could beat Erika.
The WORST final 2 would be Boogie & Erika. (Boogie winning would still be better than Maggie).
The best at this point would be Janelle & Will.
Next HOH players:
Janelle
Boogie
Will
George
George won't win and Janie would put up George & Erika. Boogie would do Janie & George and Will would like Janie do George & Erika. George is pretty much a goner since Chill Town will control the votes and they have alliances with Janie and Erika.
After that either Janie or Erika will leave. Boogie/Erika would get Janelle out and Will/Janelle would get Erika out.
The final 3 will be Will, Boogie, and either Erika or Janelle.
Janelle would beat either Will or Boogie, Will would beat Boogie, and both Will and Boogie could beat Erika.
The WORST final 2 would be Boogie & Erika. (Boogie winning would still be better than Maggie).
The best at this point would be Janelle & Will.
Mercury Fred
Banned
I'd love to see Will, Boogie and Janelle all throw HoH this week. George wins, puts up Erika and Boogie or Erika and Will. Erika goes.
ChunderMan
Living in a one-dimensional world...
I'm so tired of hearing that "Danielle's playing for her family" bullshit! Are we supposed to care about someone just 'cause they have kids? WTF? Half the world has kids! Plus, if she's so concerned about her family, than why did she leave them behind for another 3 months?! I'm glad she's gone... she's an annoying "character" and not nearly as entertaining to watch as Will, Janelle or George.OmniGamer said:
P.S. - Boogie shouldn't win if it comes down to him and Will. He's ridden Will's coatstrings this entire game and I hope the rest of the jury realizes that.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Danielle f*cked up from Day 1 (going after S6 with no real backup or plan) and is lucky she got to ride Chilltown as far as she got. I can't wait until her dumbass gets to the sequester house.
James: "So danielle, did you make them feel your wrath?"
Danielle: "...chilltown."
edit: And its funny she talks about loyalty. Where was her loyalty to Mike and Boogie who helped her get PoV to save her ass, she turns around and was ready to evict Will this week. Why? Because she's full of shit and was playing the game same as everyone else, she just turned into a bigass baby once things didn't go her way and tried to guilttrip her way out of eviction. Thank god it didn't work.
Thats nice and all, but you're forgetting the most important part: Will is a great BB player, Danielle isn't. That to me is far more important in determining who deserves to win this "game" (and, despite having a $500,000 prize, it is just that, a GAME)
James: "So danielle, did you make them feel your wrath?"
Danielle: "...chilltown."
edit: And its funny she talks about loyalty. Where was her loyalty to Mike and Boogie who helped her get PoV to save her ass, she turns around and was ready to evict Will this week. Why? Because she's full of shit and was playing the game same as everyone else, she just turned into a bigass baby once things didn't go her way and tried to guilttrip her way out of eviction. Thank god it didn't work.
Thats nice and all, but you're forgetting the most important part: Will is a great BB player, Danielle isn't. That to me is far more important in determining who deserves to win this "game" (and, despite having a $500,000 prize, it is just that, a GAME)
Everyone in sequester so far(including Danielle soon) is there because of Will. He controls Janelle and Boogie(who then control's Erika). George is useless.
With Danielle gone Will now will have total control over EVERYONE(except useless George who idolizes him anyway) in the house.
With Danielle gone Will now will have total control over EVERYONE(except useless George who idolizes him anyway) in the house.
ChunderMan said:
No not "just cuz she has kids"...that's not my point. Please, i'm almost Bill Maher-esque when it comes to my thoughts on "kids". My point is her being a mother gives her a different focus, it places a certain importance and priority on "winning"...if she had kids but just wanted to win to get a boob job and other cosmetic procedures, I wouldn't give two shits about her. She's playing for the betterment of her family, and as such, I can respect her passion and her "taking the game personally". I mean WTF is that really? You show me how winning $500,000 won't affect you personally...of course it would.
Again, Danielle respects the game, and I truely believe what she said when she said that had she been leaving the game by Janelle's hands, or Will's hands(directly), she would be ok with it, similar to how James reacted...he was cool, he conceded that he was beaten by the best...but to be backdoored by Erika?
Lastly, as I said, if Will wins i'm ok with it because he played an absolutely flawless game...that doesn't mean I like him. I know here on GAF we're so used to blind fanboy-ism, but i'm more versatile than that. I've knocked each and every player this season...I may "personally" like some people more than others, but I can still call them on their mistakes.
As for week 1, Danielle merely presented a scenario, she gave no indication either way who she'd want to leave if Jase and Janelle couldn't agree on nominations. Alison is the one who took it, pushed to get Janelle evicted, and ran with it so hard she ran right into brick wall. It wasn't as if S6 wasn't already a target...they were by sheer fact that their season was the most populous in the house.
Re: Will/Boogie, actually it's more like Will has ridden Boogie's coattails...Boggie won a veto and took himself off the block, and he won an HOH, and he won the coup d'tat(though it was unused)...Will has made sure never to be in any position of power. Will is the mastermind and manipulator, but Boogie has been the "arm" so to speak, to act when Chilltown's preservation was at risk.
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