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The Order 1886 ARG - Missing person
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old8enkenobi who has been commenting on the blog itself found this new BCO news video: http://youtu.be/Or7LT6QHkF0
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Deleted member 80556
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That's not the same James, right?
lol at the test trial
I want that gun so bad.
Pinkman_ABQ
Member
A couple of new posts have been added with a few more pics to check out:
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109504049780/more-complex-photos-additional-shots-we-took-in
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109503924070/blackwater-vial-this-is-the-vial-that-ian-found
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109504049780/more-complex-photos-additional-shots-we-took-in
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109503924070/blackwater-vial-this-is-the-vial-that-ian-found
Is the Order logo a long snake with short legs (think Chinese dragon) eating its own tail?
Yeah looks like the ouroboros, symbol for cyclicality, probably referencing the recreation of The Order through the history.
Holy crap I cracked up when he fired that thing.
Haha thats how I reacted after he fired that arc gun. xD
Is the Order logo a long snake with short legs (think Chinese dragon) eating its own tail?
To me it looks like a half-breed style Ouroboros.
Can't believe I'd not been following this thread!
Shame on you Viveks! If you haven't spotted it, I did a catch up post recently.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=149258951&postcount=181
Handy Fake
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Is the Order logo a long snake with short legs (think Chinese dragon) eating its own tail?
It's an elongated dog tied into a heraldic knot. I've seen similar before. The dog is the symbol for courage, vigilance and fidelity. I'm seeing if there's a record of that knot shape in any heraldic crests.
Ouroboros is also implied since it's eating its own tail.
Edit: Actually, I'm now torn. It could be a Celtic dragon knot, which would actually tie in nicely with Arthurian legend.
Edit edit: I think it's a Celtic dog...
Handy Fake
Member
From Google:
According to George Bain, a 20th century Scottish Celtic art professor, Celtic knots that have a closed path, (no end or beginning), are considered to be a symbol of eternity, or represent the infinite. Those with open paths are said to signify a journey (both physical and otherwise).
There are also legends that the four-cornered Celtic knot design was created as a symbol protection. In Druidic philosophies, there were four major energies, or Gods, if you will governing a specific quandrant of the world...this four-cornered emblem was used to invoke these powers for protection (in the home, corporeal protection during battle, etc.).
According to George Bain, a 20th century Scottish Celtic art professor, Celtic knots that have a closed path, (no end or beginning), are considered to be a symbol of eternity, or represent the infinite. Those with open paths are said to signify a journey (both physical and otherwise).
There are also legends that the four-cornered Celtic knot design was created as a symbol protection. In Druidic philosophies, there were four major energies, or Gods, if you will governing a specific quandrant of the world...this four-cornered emblem was used to invoke these powers for protection (in the home, corporeal protection during battle, etc.).
Is the Order logo a long snake with short legs (think Chinese dragon) eating its own tail?
Yeah, it's a variation on an ouroboros.
Damn, beaten like a ginger stepchild.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Don't know why this picture looks so cool to me. Looks so old and compared to the game's graphics, looks exactly like what it would look like had you found a place from 130 years ago.
The Tofunator
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Someone just translated:
TAKE CARE IN WHOM
YOU TRUST HALF
BREEDS ARE NOT
THE ONLY ONES
WHO WEAR TWO
FACES.
Interesting.. so Tesla, Darwin and god knows who else are somewhat involved or related.. pretty cool.
I made a transcript of the letter as best I could.. a few of the words I couldn't make out.
Also, someone on the blog comments has already translated the coded message which reads:
It's all getting more and more interesting!
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Deleted member 80556
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God dammit, people those times wrote beautiful but incomprehensible stuff.
So Darwin was part of the Order then? Most interesting! Love how RAD is focusing on discoverers and inventors.
So Darwin was part of the Order then? Most interesting! Love how RAD is focusing on discoverers and inventors.
I really really love the whole semi-alternate reality to the whole game. It's awesome because it might have happened and we'd never know.
I like the direction they've gone with sticking roughly within our actual history with just enough fiction to be interesting. This ARG has definitely increased my hype levels so far
There's another post with an encrypted message! Seems different to previous encryptions so far!
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109592728625/ians-gibberish
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109592728625/ians-gibberish
The Tofunator
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With the existence of half breeds, I wonder if Darwin's work would have been far more easily accepted in his day, and not reviled by creationists in the modern day.
The ambiguous manner in which the New Guinea settlement is described intrigues me. Was it a settlement wiped out by half breeds, or was it populated by them and they were removed later?
The ambiguous manner in which the New Guinea settlement is described intrigues me. Was it a settlement wiped out by half breeds, or was it populated by them and they were removed later?
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Deleted member 80556
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Perhaps NE is a name?
Anyway found this on Twitter, on an official Sony account:
The image's design totally screams out of the era when medical illustrations were very refined. Similar to Gray's Anatomy, heck it's from that time, it might just be from that book.
Anyway found this on Twitter, on an official Sony account:
The image's design totally screams out of the era when medical illustrations were very refined. Similar to Gray's Anatomy, heck it's from that time, it might just be from that book.
gaming_noob
Member
I've been watching a lot of Murdoch Mysteries and Penny Dreadful... so ready for this game!
Perhaps NE is a name?
Anyway found this on Twitter, on an official Sony account:
The image's design totally screams out of the era when medical illustrations were very refined. Similar to Gray's Anatomy, heck it's from that time, it might just be from that book.
That's a sweet illustration. Everything that has been coming out to do with the game has been brilliant recently. The posters, the replicas, the footage..
loaf of bread
Member
Don't know why this picture looks so cool to me. Looks so old and compared to the game's graphics, looks exactly like what it would look like had you found a place from 130 years ago.
How do they do this? How do you make real/fake dust?
The cobwebs too! They don't look like the typical cheap fake as hell looking ones you'd usually find. They really nailed the look of the underground area. Like if you showed me pictures and said it was an abandoned lab I wouldn't be suspicious :L
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Last segment is going to be OSCAR GOLF ALPHA FOXTROT
Haha YES!
blazeuk
Member
Yep, I've not had much of a chance to even look at anything before it's been solved already but it's good to see a story mixed in with it rather than just pages and pages of riddles with no meaning. They really do seem to have put a lot of effort into the whole thing with the replicas etc.
Pinkman_ABQ
Member
So we have 'Not the History You Know Ne'. which assuming NE is initials would be "Not the History You Know," - N.E. Now the question is if NE is a name, who is it?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I think it's a partial word, they said there would be four pieces to this puzzle in an earlier post
Pinkman_ABQ
Member
Yeah you are probably right, I totally forgot about there being four pieces to the puzzle.
I don't know why but I have a hunch that Ian's great grandfather wasn't a member of the order but working against them as a spy or something.
After thinking about the whole two faces thing which might have been added later on. But also the fact that all of the stuff we have gather from the Journal itself kinda seems like outside research on it. Stuff like observing people walking in and out of a place.. And speculating on Tesla, who'd you'd think he would know about if he was in The Order?
After thinking about the whole two faces thing which might have been added later on. But also the fact that all of the stuff we have gather from the Journal itself kinda seems like outside research on it. Stuff like observing people walking in and out of a place.. And speculating on Tesla, who'd you'd think he would know about if he was in The Order?
A new post, Jim has another video. Possibly posting it tomorrow. It sounds like a good'n!
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109688323475/fear
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109688323475/fear
The video is up!
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109777418585/crossbow-here-it-is-the-video-ive-been-holding
Posted earlier than usual today, there's also a journal entry and some more photos in some other posts. They tested Blackwater out and.. well go look!
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109777418585/crossbow-here-it-is-the-video-ive-been-holding
Posted earlier than usual today, there's also a journal entry and some more photos in some other posts. They tested Blackwater out and.. well go look!
I'm starting to think that Ian went crazy and that's why he's missing. Letting himself get shot like that isn't exactly the sign of a sane person, regardless of his confidence in the healing properties of the substance.
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Deleted member 80556
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There's been a lot of new posts lately, damn. The video is well done too!
Yeah I was thinking that. It's a bit excessive to have a cheeky crossbow bolt to the shoulder :L Could have just done a small cut.
Intrigued to find out what has happened to Ian anyway.
New update with 2 audio logs:
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109779075390/wax-cylinder-recordings-more-that-we-found-in-the
The first recording is propaganda for the expansion of the British empire, and listening to it kind of makes my skin crawl considering how the historical empire tended to treat the people of the lands it colonized. The second is an except from a story about King Arthur, but I don't know the significance of that beyond what we already know about the Order.
http://theorderexposed.com/post/109779075390/wax-cylinder-recordings-more-that-we-found-in-the
The first recording is propaganda for the expansion of the British empire, and listening to it kind of makes my skin crawl considering how the historical empire tended to treat the people of the lands it colonized. The second is an except from a story about King Arthur, but I don't know the significance of that beyond what we already know about the Order.
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Deleted member 80556
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Whoa, the second recording mentions a Lady Igraine. The female character of the group is also Igraine, right? Interesting coincidence.
It's not a coincidence. Each member of The Order is given a code name based on Arthurian legend. She's the origin of Isabeau's code name. I think Galahad's real name is Greyson.
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Deleted member 80556
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Oh man, I don't know how I didn't see that. Must have missed the memo!
Well we know that definitely happens - the latest trailer has Galahad calling in some kind of CAS from their airship which causes a great deal of destruction.
This is also highlighted in the PSX sequence during the evacuation of the Agamemnon where Malory is chastised by a higher up for failing to 'contain the issue in Whitechapel'. Quite obviously while people are aware of the existence of The Order (the references to 'The Holy Knights' make this clear) and the lycans, the actual extent of the war is clearly unknown, so what looks like the flattening of a large chunk of Whitechapel in what was supposed to be a 'black ops' mission against the rebels gone awry wasn't appreciated by the higher-ups.
That there's a conspiracy within The Order is also clear from the fact the rebels have access to the supposedly secret materiel developed by Tesla.
Goddamn, this is a brilliant campaign - so well produced and the different trailers all tie back to each other, so there's nothing revealed in theorderexposed that hasn't been seen in the BCO spots and the actual trailers and PSX demo of the game.