Jap that is what I think. People today expect that every Game has to completely revolutionize the genre. Well than why does CoD get a pass ? Why does Forza get a Pass ? Why did Uncharted get a Pass ? The last ones did really good in the genre and were really well made. That is all I care about
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The Order 1886 at PSX - Impressions, Gameplay, etc.
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Jap that is what I think. People today expect that every Game has to completely revolutionize the genre. Well than why does CoD get a pass ? Why does Forza get a Pass ? Why did Uncharted get a Pass ? The last ones did really good in the genre and were really well made. That is all I care about
The airship is from the US so it's all good.
SmartWaffles
Member
Call of Duty is a 5 hour game tops yet they show 5 minutes if not more actual gameplay every year at E3.
Lady Siara
Member
Dunno how I missed your previous posts and the shadow itself. Apologies, and fair point, it does look off in a game that takes its visuals so seriously.
The worst was the trailer for The Game Awards. Begins with a title Chapter 5: Agamemnon Rising. Cool, we're about to see a coherent section of story. Nope. Guys rappling. Guys beating up the crew. Something about a party and nothing to wear. Sniping a guy. Talking and then "Look out!"
Ok...
Nearly every single trailer has been extremely poor at conveying the gameplay mechanics and the story.
Not many people give CoD a pass here. In the clip they showed, the unique setting didn't have much of an effect. We still just saw a guy with a shotgun walking through hallways and a kitchen performing some 1 button invincible kill animations. Personally I only liked Gears for multiplayer.
I still haven't read many impressions from the demo yet, but I'm not feeling it for a game that's 2 months out.
I agree with this post. We crush reviewers for their lack of reason. We should try to exercise some discretion too. PEACE.
It's a game that will sell on graphics alone, hence they're showing cutscenes; they made it pretty clear many times that they're not ambitious in the gameplay department. Ten years from now nobody will remember it.
I disagree. While my post was far too brief, I tried to break down part of what the previewer saw, and why I found it underwhelming. He saw (among other things) nice-looking but standard collectibles (yes, other games have rotatable collectibles), a standard arsenal, linear levels, and a mixed bag of QTEs (I grant that only some of them were characterized as "unfortunate"). His tone was certainly positive, but most previews have a positive and forgiving tone! You have to read between the lines. When I did so, I was not encouraged.
Have they commented on how long the game is?
I have a feeling there isn't much game there that's why they are not showing us more.
I'll always be of the opinion that this type of game lends itself to a MP component.
I understand they have limited resources and experience, but hopefully there is something more to the game that will enable some longevity.
I have a feeling there isn't much game there that's why they are not showing us more.
I'll always be of the opinion that this type of game lends itself to a MP component.
I understand they have limited resources and experience, but hopefully there is something more to the game that will enable some longevity.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
This looks so good. So bought, don't give a shit what the haters say.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Sounds like the perfect game to relax to. Cinematic games are great for this
Releases on a Friday. I wouldn't be surprised if you're finishing this over the weekend.
I can't believe we're playing games that look like this. So good.
Agreed. They're silly and add nothing.
They add information about what people are doing and you can act on those information.
You haven't been keeping up with this game's previews, have you? ;p
cyber_ninja
Member
The game looks amazing, cannot wait to grab my collector's edition in February.
Yep needs at least coop campaign and I doubt it even has that. This could be Sony's answer to gears.
backbreaker65
Banned
I love that they have that in the game. It ties in the old at the same time new concept of the game. That jargon wasn't being done in that era. Those are special forces commands, used by small squads in real life combat. And it does add to the authenticity of squad based combat of communicating. RELOADING serves 2 purposes for others on the fire team uses suppression fire i.e. cover me.
luca_29_bg
Member
but the full demo from the showfloor? I want to see it! I can't believe sony it's so dumb!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
A friend of mine called me this morning and game me a long winded hyperbole filled impression of the game and this is coming from a dude that really disliked every showing of it so far. In a nutshell its the most impressive looking game he has seen and the guns feel awesome.
Whoever has been in charge of marketing this game needs to be fired.
Whoever has been in charge of marketing this game needs to be fired.
hendersonhank
Member
Seems like that proves exactly what the guy was saying -- that they give a positive tone, but what they actually say about the game doesn't sound so hot.
They say they enjoyed using the guns (tone), but their objective statement is that the guns are the same old ones we use in every game.
They say they enjoyed "exploring" (tone), but their objective statement is that you can't choose where to go and it's entirely linear -- which most of us would say is NOT "exploring". Most of us would not describe seeing what's on the other side of the only door you can go through at the end of the hallway you're forced to go down to be "exploration".
They said they found the combat "satisfying" (tone), but their objective statement is that enemies often wouldn't die even when shot in the head.
Etc.
luca_29_bg
Member
yeah we need to watch the whole 30 minutes demo and, of course, you can't find it anywhere on the net. Fuck you sony!
The problem is, they haven't shown anything with any kind of "pop" whatsoever with this game.
Speaking of Gears, go look at any of the E3 or prerelease gameplay videos of those games. Those get the blood pumping.
The Order has shown us a bunch of shitty QTE nonsense, and now a kitchen shootout sequence so dull I've seen more intense throw downs on a Rachel Ray cooking show. You know things are dire when they can't even show anything that even fakes anything above base competency (Killzone).
If you're not going to have multi in your shooter, you better have an amazing story and gameplay to match (Bioshock, the new Wolfenstein). There is just no reason for optimism with The Order that I've seen so far.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
Have they not released longer videos than the stuff they showed on stage? Thread seems to be lacking in the gif department.
Few we have are excellent though. Great work!
What kills me is how guarded they are. You're doing a 30 minute demo for the select group there and you can't be bothered to show more than 90 secs on stage and seemingly the most boring 90 secs of the half hour long demo. They are doing an awful job at selling this game...AWFUL.
Few we have are excellent though. Great work!
What kills me is how guarded they are. You're doing a 30 minute demo for the select group there and you can't be bothered to show more than 90 secs on stage and seemingly the most boring 90 secs of the half hour long demo. They are doing an awful job at selling this game...AWFUL.
This is archaic. So you made a 30m build of the game, playable by anyone who attends. Why the fuck aren't you packaging it and releasing it as a 'demo' ASAP? You've done all the hard work. You're confident enough to let regular joes play it. Then freaking upload it to PSN and let everybody play it.
The only argument is that people bought tickets and you want them to have the allure of being able to do stuff non-attendees won't. Well the, wait 1-2 months and then release it on PSN. Heck, make it exclusive for PS+ members - so you do get paid as well. PS+ offering playable builds of games from the various trade show and events is actually a great way to inject value into the subscription.
The only argument is that people bought tickets and you want them to have the allure of being able to do stuff non-attendees won't. Well the, wait 1-2 months and then release it on PSN. Heck, make it exclusive for PS+ members - so you do get paid as well. PS+ offering playable builds of games from the various trade show and events is actually a great way to inject value into the subscription.
Every impression from the floor has been quite positive. The marketing has just been a complete failure.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
SO MUCH THIS. It's about to be 2015, devs/publishers it's time to get smart about this. It's time we, as consumers start pushing for it. The incentive for them to do it isn't very high considering everyone's just going to buy the thing on day one anyway...
temesgen77
Member
Agreed, I don't understand why this isn't done more often.... Limit it to Plus members or charge a nominal fee or restrict to those who pre-order or give give those who pre-order 5 keys for free downloads so they can share with friends. Any of these are viable if they don't want everyone getting access.
Callibretto
Member
I think TLoU length is largely due to the slower pace nature of the game, you spent a lot of time walking slowly, sneaking around etc. while the game area is probably not that different from Uncharted which can be beaten in much shorter time.
The Order being a more fast paced action game like Uncharted, I wouldn't expect it to be as long as TLoU, but if it's around the length of Uncharted, than I'd be pretty satisfied. just no under 5 hours, that's too short.
SniperHunter
Banned
great to hear that
i think sony is to blame for the horrible showing so far. instead of showing a 20 minute demo of uncharted, they should have shown a 20 minute demo for the order, which comes out in 2 months.
I'm guessing 10-12 hours or so. Short enough for tight pacing but not over in an afternoon.
Different Kitchen gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFyoHXLu3zM
IGN impressions with a little new gameplay
http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/12/0...+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Some new gameplay here as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y76MdyXcqyQ&spfreload=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFyoHXLu3zM
IGN impressions with a little new gameplay
http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/12/0...+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Some new gameplay here as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y76MdyXcqyQ&spfreload=10
loaf of bread
Member
I don't know why people are so stingy about video game prices for the amount of time you get out of them they really are not that expensive at all.
If you go to the movies or buy a movie it'll cost you 15-20 dollars for a 2 hour movie. Multiply that by 3-4 for 60 dollars for a game and a minimum of 6-8 hours (which is half the time of a "short" game) not counting replay value or extras. Its not that expensive.
If you go to the movies or buy a movie it'll cost you 15-20 dollars for a 2 hour movie. Multiply that by 3-4 for 60 dollars for a game and a minimum of 6-8 hours (which is half the time of a "short" game) not counting replay value or extras. Its not that expensive.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
True, I think the team is just in crunch-mode trying to get it ready for release. The game goes gold in like 2 months.
Not really the best time to be putting together a stage demo.
Archaic? Lol if anything as history has progressed, early demos have all but vanished. Compare the list of retail PS4 titles to the demo section of PSN and its clear to see that developers are moving away from early demos, outside the now common multiplayer beta.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Footage from that IGN preview looks really great. It's amazing how they can seemingly effortlessly (no frame drops) render something that looks like high end CG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZREB5gR224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZREB5gR224
calcetinvolador
Banned
I agree completely, whoever is in charge of marketing this game doesn´t know what is doing.
psn
Member
Might not be his shadow but a reflection...