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[Wooxsvan]

as fortold by the messiah

pretty much. he wasnt looking at fake data when he said this.

 

[SSfox]

Also not all remakes are good. POP remake has still yet to prove itself, and RE3 Remake is inferior to the original

 

[brian0057]

 

[CatLady]

Just bought Metroid Prime Remastered. Booted the original on CRT after a couple hours, it was instantly better. More playable, less dark, no motion blur, and 4/3 is simply much more adapted to the level layout overall, as there is a lot of verticality.

And this is supposed to be one of the best remaster evaaaa. It certainly is fine, but it is pointless as well. BC is always good enough. Make new games.

I agree. I have zero interest in buying the same game over and over. Instead of rehashing Skyrim or TLOU for the 100th time I want new games.

I've replayed tons of games, the Mass Effect trilogy, Dead Space trilogy, Alan Wake, Bioshock 1&2 and lots more. They've all held up really well. The only game I'd like a remake is TES Morrowind with modern QL conveniences.

 

[onQ123]

No, that is apparent. "What's old is new". The claim that this fact has anything to do with the ability to play an older version of game is misguided.

If I'm interpreting your stance incorrectly, I apologize. I could agree with the claim that for someone who has never played the original RE4, that the new release would be a more enjoyable experience in most cases. That though does not change the fact that the OG RE4 was one of the best games if it's era, and personally I value the ability to play the greats of their time very highly.

These remakes, while based on a previous game, are in many cases brand new creations. Even when they are not (TLoU1), like you stated earlier, they are built to take advantage of "Next Gen" features that the community has been clamoring for. The fact that they are selling phenomenally well has no bearing on the implied preference, of BC enhancements or Remake, by the consumer. The fact of the matter is that, in many cases, gamers can have both.

One last point, if we look at the movie industry, it has been going down a similar path for the past decade+. Studios have found great financial success in remaking or reimagining an existing property. In many cases, the new incarnation of the property will be viewed by many more people and make more money than the original, but I don't think many would agree that movie goers prefer the remakes over the originals.

However, there is a flaw in this analogy as it can be argued that the manner in which movies are presented has had the luxury of being standardized for more than a half a century, which can't be said for video games that were made 20 years ago. (If this doesn't make sense, I understand as I had a hard time articulating what I wanted to say due to my screaming baby)

What I'm saying is that this isn't actually a Remake vs BC thread but more about the fact that remakes / remasters are doing really well despite these games being playable using BC for years.

The Last Of Us even has a remaster that can be played on PS5 through BC yet the $70 Remake is at the top 5 of the charts

 

[MarkMe2525]

What I'm saying is that this isn't actually a Remake vs BC thread but more about the fact that remakes / remasters are doing really well despite these games being playable using BC for years.

The Last Of Us even has a remaster that can be played on PS5 through BC yet the $70 Remake is at the top 5 of the charts

Begs the question, would things be the same if we weren't starved of content with meaningful differences in visual quality from last gen. You have a handful of games on PS5 and only two I can think of on Xbox that fit this description. This gen sure hasn't panned out the way I was expecting thus far.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

remasters are fun.
old games are fun.

but without good new games, the industry will die.

nintendo, you better find a new miyamoto.
he wont live forever, and that squid crap isnt cutting it.

 

[onQ123]

Begs the question, would things be the same if we weren't starved of content with meaningful differences in visual quality from last gen. You have a handful of games on PS5 and only two I can think of on Xbox that fit this description. This gen sure hasn't panned out the way I was expecting thus far.

I think Hogwarts Legacy changed things a little because from a Dev / Publisher view making games that can be sold across PS4 , PS5, Xbox One , Xbox Series & run on lower end PCs was just the smartest choice to make up until this point.

How did Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart , The Medium & other current gen only games do up until now?

Right now PS5 is selling enough to carry current gen only games & Hogwarts Legacy showed this without being an current gen exclusive.

 

[IFireflyl]

Only one current console can still play games from two gens back.

The Steam Deck.

 

[StueyDuck]

Well if done properly it makes old games new again where the other is just old games...

BC is awesome and should be done by every publisher. But I doubt many people are diving into older games compared to those playing remakes (also newer fans for the game)

 

[lh032]

not surprising.
BC games is just for the loud minority, average gamers want beautiful things to look at.

 

[Adam_802]

lol spoken like someone with only 1 option

 

[SmokedMeat]

The Steam Deck.

 

[onQ123]

lol spoken like someone with only 1 option

You're like the 4th person I seen talking this no other choice stuff

You can play The Last Of Us on PS5 through BC , You can play Dead Space & RE4 on Xbox Series X/S & PC through BC, you could play Metroid Prime on Switch through the subscription.

 

[Fox Mulder]

New remasters and remakes will always chart with people buying them at release. BC lets you play games you already have or pick up cheap used.

I don’t really see the relevance.

 

[Puscifer]

obvi.

Jim Was Right.

I'd still play Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy more than any game Polyphony has made since then, so no.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I'd still play Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy more than any game Polyphony has made since then, so no.

ok. Jim is Wrong then

 

[jayj]

Well obviously remakes are going to sell better than games that can be bought easily and cheaply used.

 

[onQ123]

I'd still play Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy more than any game Polyphony has made since then, so no.

A Tourist Trophy Remake would probably sell more than the original

 

[Puscifer]

A Tourist Trophy Remake would probably sell more than the original

It'd just be tourists trophy 2, which I wish they'd make since to this day we don't have anything like it

 

[Danjin44]

Here is the problem, if there was no backwards compatibility how could I able to play games like Sakura Wars (PS4) on my PS5? This game is too niche and not popular enough ever get a remaster.

Usually only well known games might get remaster/remake, there are very rare case niche gets remaster like Grimgrimoire and Ghost Trick but that doesn't always happen.

I like remaster/remakes but backwards compatibility is a must.

 

[Loxus]

Gamers are so confusing at times.

They talk about wanting to play BC games (PS1,2&3 gen) but yet complain about a games releasing on PS5/XBSX at 1080p, 30fps or with PS4 graphics.

Hurts my head sometimes.

 

[jayj]

It'd just be tourists trophy 2, which I wish they'd make since to this day we don't have anything like it

Ride 4 felt pretty close to "GT of motorcycle games" status, and Ride 5 should be even better.

 

[ANDS]

With GameCube , PS3 /Xbox 360 remakes taking up prime dead space in the charts this month & saying you haven't seen the last of us it's clear that people would rather have games remade to take advantage of the new hardware than to get small BC enhancements.

I mean, you can have both, but Remakes aren't just about tarting up the old version of the game or its controls. Sometimes it is about outright changing the game in ways that weren't possible when the game first came out (FF7R for a pitch perfect example of this).

. . .but yes, I would say the chorus of people who would rather have a remake or a remaster (not sure why that one is being lumped in; why wouldn't you want to play the game in its best state - if you want original state, shouldn't you also be playing on the original hardware for purities sake).

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Good thing I have a killer PC that can emulate all of these archaic games these lazy companies are trying to re-release.

LOL not TLOU. Shit port

 

[SoloKingRobert]

Microsoft's Backwards Compatibility puts Remasteres to shame with their enhancements.

 

[M1chl]

Where do you have stats for backwards compatibility or emulation? Until then fake news and ur g...alright

 

[Naked Lunch]

Have fun re-buying the stuff you purchased years ago - over and over again.
Its Nintendo's and Sony's entire business model these days. WiiU's library was dried up - now its on to GC.

As for all the remasters - its funny but they almost always end up worse than the original in one way or another.

For me personally, the past few years ive restored all my old consoles - got a quality upscaler. I already bought all this stuff years ago.
And on Xbox, Im able to still play most of the stuff I bought dating back to 2001 on my new Series console.

 

[Pedro Motta]

sequels are remakes with more stuff.

nope, nowadays sequels are DLCs, remember?

 

[SmokedMeat]

LOL not TLOU. Shit port

Was a shit port. Just like Resident Evil 4 on consoles, it’s fixed.

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

They’re not mutually exclusive.

We want BC because we already paid for them.

Nailed it!

 

[93xfan]

Considering all the forever broken “remasters” plus all the games that are forever de-listed (SSX3 and Sonic 3 with OG music), we at least need both.

 

[Humdinger]

I prefer remasters as well.

 

[Nocturno999]

LOL not TLOU. Shit port

The PS3 version does and Tess doesn't look like a hag.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Very few people actually go back and play old games exactly as they were a decade ago. Remakes and remasters make sense because they upgrade a game to try and be closer to modern expectations for technology level.

 

[Drizzlehell]

I certainly wasn't one of those people bro.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

It's some of the takes in this thread that made us all actually question whether or not the PS5 would play PS4 games.

 

[onQ123]

I certainly wasn't one of those people bro.

You're going to write an article about how Remakes are not all they are cracked up to be aren't you?

 

[angrod14]

You can't remake/remaster everything. And we're in a context where most of the consumer base have been building large digital libraries (most of the sales are digital now), and it's bad business to shit on that by suddenly not allowing the transition of those games to the new plataform.

Also, remakes/remasters don't necessarily replace the OG versions, they're just a modern take. People would still want to have access to the originals.

 

[LRKD]

Xbox is king for having the best backwards compatibility rn. PC can't be topped there though. I don't mind ports if console makers refuse to do backwards compatibility, but I sure as hell don't want remakes, remasters, or anything of the kind. Just port the damn game, if retard zoomers can't handle the classics, that's their problem. Save the money for a new game don't waste it on already fun and playable games.
Game devs really do want to just be Hollywood with endless sequels and remakes smh.

 

[Ivan]

 

[Hayabusa83]

LOL not TLOU. Shit port

I have zero interest in Sony's lucid walking sims.

 

[GymWolf]

Some people can have both.