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[Bojji]

How about performance?
Genuinely interested since I have a 10GB. I wish I could easily put 6GB extra. I miss my Trident 9440 lol

It was like ~5, 10% lower than stock. But stock was able to consume close to 400W...

I had to do this undervolt because my PSU was never designed for a monster GPU like this, I was always targeting xx70 line.

 

[Vick]

This thread has gotten stupidly predictable

• Goal post moving
• GPU vs full system
• B-but I undervolted and it's only 250w!

Fucking hell

Indeed.

Embarassing shit.

 

[Three]

You were showing 2024 price in your first post about 3080.

You're just jumping from place to place when presented with the info that it was around $850 average retail. You said that the price was made up because it was long discontinued. So I showed you 2022 prices too. I said:

Even four years ago in 2022:



Again look at the price even for the lower inflation of 2022. Again what do you see listed? again $999, and $850 retail.

You replied:

3080 stopped production mid to late 2022, card was replaced. You can see insane prices for old discontinued hardware in online shops all the time.

The 2022 prices were not for a discontinued card, they were the retail price and they were showing for $999 and $850 at retail as supposed bargains even. You think an October 2022 4000 Series launch drove up retail prices for a 3000 series card in early 2022 or down? They were even higher in 2021.

I know that price was inflated in 2021 and 2022, but getting 3080 in 2020 for MSRP price was not impossible (just very hard to do):

Nobody said it was impossible. Just that it was a shit paper launch to make the price look good and that the true average retail for 3080 went for $850 or more. It's not a made up price.

 

[Bojji]

You're just jumping from place to place when presented with the info that it was around $850 average retail. You said that the price was made up because it was long discontinued. So I showed you 2022 prices too. I said:




The 2022 prices were not for a discontinued card, they were the retail price and they were showing for $999 and $850 at retail as supposed bargains even. You think an October 2022 4000 Series launch drove up retail prices for a 3000 series card in early 2022 or down?



Nobody said it was impossible. Just that it was a shit paper launch to make the price look good and that the true average retail for 3080 went for $850 or more. It's not a made up price.

Why you were arguing about discontinued card being 800$ in 2024 in the first place?

I know that 3080 prices were inflated in 2021 and 2022, thanks to miners. But by 2024 this GPU was treated like a dinosaur (and mostly available only on used market) when you had new 4070Ti Super for that price and regular 599$ 4070 Super was already faster than 3080 (even 550$ 4070 was on par but with more vram).

 

[Three]

Why you were arguing about discontinued card being 800$ in 2024 in the first place?

I know that 3080 prices were inflated in 2021 and 2022, thanks to miners. But by 2024 this GPU was treated like a dinosaur (and mostly available only on used market) when you had new 4070Ti Super for that price and regular 599$ 4070 Super was already faster than 3080 (even 550$ 4070 was on par but with more vram).

Because somebody tried to make this dumb comparison:

"The ps5 pro released at the same price 4 years later using TSMC 5nm, a much better node and it still can't beat a pc gpu from 2020."

Using some phony price that wasn't even the actual MSRP even with that 2020 lower inflation price tag. I just said:

Yes because $699 for just a GPU that actually didn't sell for the msrp but closer to $999 is equivalent to an entire system. What a fair comparison.

Then you got involved and started making excuses as to why $850 was not the real retail price in 2024. If you want to move the goalposts more and go to other cards be my guest but that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing the 3080 because he tried to make it seem like they couldn't beat something 4 years older on a lower node.

 

[phant0m]

My $699 launch buy of the Pro looks better and better every goddamn day

 

[Gusy]

Now with rumors of the ps6 being around the rtx 5070 level, I can't help but be disappointed with Sony's approach.

As we speak today, my 5090 laptop has a real chance of being more powerful than a potential ps6 to release next year. That should not be happening.

That's some pretty fucked up logic you are applying here with those comparisons.. for an innumerable amount of reasons.

 

[Karim]

In a couple of titles. In most - you'd be hard pressed to see it from a typical viewing distance.


And this is resulting in what exactly? How many games "push RT on Pro" in a way which is visually transformative in comparison to the base unit?

Surely hear from an Nvidia hardcore guy he has hard time to notice difference between the PRO and the classic FSR/TSR/TAAU on base ps5, it's definitely...something. Especially in performance mode the difference is drammatic. Now if for you the expense is not worth it, nothing to say. But the rest of what you says is extremely close to....trolling.

 

[FalconPunch]

That's some pretty fucked up logic you are applying here with those comparisons.. for an innumerable amount of reasons.

Why? The 5090 laptop performs around a 5070 to 5070ti desktop card. That's not high bar for a supposed next gen console to beat.

 

[Gaiff]

My $699 launch buy of the Pro looks better and better every goddamn day

I had a PC already at the time, so it didn't feel like an instant win, but I imagine for someone who didn't or had a crappy PC, getting the Pro for $700, only to see it spike up to $900 and PC parts prices skyrocket, had to feel like a steal.

Looking at it, a Pro-level device for $700 today is a fucking bargain.