Bojji
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It was like ~5, 10% lower than stock. But stock was able to consume close to 400W...
I had to do this undervolt because my PSU was never designed for a monster GPU like this, I was always targeting xx70 line.
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The PS5 Pro Is Not Pro Enough
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It was like ~5, 10% lower than stock. But stock was able to consume close to 400W...
I had to do this undervolt because my PSU was never designed for a monster GPU like this, I was always targeting xx70 line.
Vick
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You're just jumping from place to place when presented with the info that it was around $850 average retail. You said that the price was made up because it was long discontinued. So I showed you 2022 prices too. I said:
You replied:
The 2022 prices were not for a discontinued card, they were the retail price and they were showing for $999 and $850 at retail as supposed bargains even. You think an October 2022 4000 Series launch drove up retail prices for a 3000 series card in early 2022 or down? They were even higher in 2021.
Nobody said it was impossible. Just that it was a shit paper launch to make the price look good and that the true average retail for 3080 went for $850 or more. It's not a made up price.
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Bojji
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Why you were arguing about discontinued card being 800$ in 2024 in the first place?
I know that 3080 prices were inflated in 2021 and 2022, thanks to miners. But by 2024 this GPU was treated like a dinosaur (and mostly available only on used market) when you had new 4070Ti Super for that price and regular 599$ 4070 Super was already faster than 3080 (even 550$ 4070 was on par but with more vram).
Because somebody tried to make this dumb comparison:
"The ps5 pro released at the same price 4 years later using TSMC 5nm, a much better node and it still can't beat a pc gpu from 2020."
Using some phony price that wasn't even the actual MSRP even with that 2020 lower inflation price tag. I just said:
Then you got involved and started making excuses as to why $850 was not the real retail price in 2024. If you want to move the goalposts more and go to other cards be my guest but that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing the 3080 because he tried to make it seem like they couldn't beat something 4 years older on a lower node.
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Gusy
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That's some pretty fucked up logic you are applying here with those comparisons.. for an innumerable amount of reasons.
Surely hear from an Nvidia hardcore guy he has hard time to notice difference between the PRO and the classic FSR/TSR/TAAU on base ps5, it's definitely...something. Especially in performance mode the difference is drammatic. Now if for you the expense is not worth it, nothing to say. But the rest of what you says is extremely close to....trolling.
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FalconPunch
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Why? The 5090 laptop performs around a 5070 to 5070ti desktop card. That's not high bar for a supposed next gen console to beat.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I had a PC already at the time, so it didn't feel like an instant win, but I imagine for someone who didn't or had a crappy PC, getting the Pro for $700, only to see it spike up to $900 and PC parts prices skyrocket, had to feel like a steal.
Looking at it, a Pro-level device for $700 today is a fucking bargain.
MazingerDUDE
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So, it seems that the real problem is that the base PS5 is not base enough.
These are the kinds of problems we never saw in previous generation as PS4 delivered solid results up until PS5's release.
So you just got something extra on what's already good on PS4 with PS4 PRO,
which was not really needed considering how people were still using 1080P TVs at the time.
But in this time and age, PS5 PRO is more like a basic human right for acceptable gaming experience lol.
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FalconPunch
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Wrong again..... Based on what we've seen in DF's video, the pro performs worse than a 9060xt and even the rtx 5060 ti/rtx 5060 when it doesn't run into ram bottlenecks.
So, it seems that the real problem is that the base PS5 is not base enough.
These were the kind of problems we never saw in previous generation as PS4 delivered solid results up until PS5's release.
So you just got something extra on what's already good on PS4 with PS4 PRO,
which was not really needed considering how people were still using 1080P TVs at the time.
But in this time and age, PS5 PRO is more like a basic human rights for acceptable gaming experience lol.
Ideally, if you use DLSS performance at 4k, you'll get better performance on a 5060/5060ti than the pro. The pro has an internal resolution below 1080p and upscales to 4k.
Despite that, it still drops frames. Argue about the base all you want but, $899 and it can't even beat a 9060xt/5060..... That's a bad look.
If you had an old pc lying around with ddr4 ram, you could build a whole new pc for $899 that beats the pro easily while repurposing your ram/ssd. The 5060 can be had for $339 and the 16gb 9060xt for $459.
If not for the memory crysis, you'd be able to buy everything brand new and still beat the pro.
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MazingerDUDE
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FalconPunch
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My bad dude, I quoted the wrong person and I'm in the wrong threadWhat's PC GPUs got anything to do with PS5 vs PS5 PRO?
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mckmas8808
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
But that's why the Pro's price has gone up. You can't blame it for being overpriced at $900 but then say PCs would be cheaper if not for the memory crisis. If it weren't for the shortages and parts prices skyrocketing, the Pro would still be sitting at $700.
Bojji
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In general, people that bought consoles and PC parts in 2024/early 2025 are the real winners here.