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Poody said:
duh!!! He smokes because he has a paraplegic eye

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Poody said:
Emplay reported there are still stuff brewing!!! Mitch not done with the trades...
L.A. Lakers trades: SG Kobe Bryant (27.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 6.6 apg in 42.0 minutes)
L.A. Lakers receives: PG Allen Iverson (29.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 7.6 apg in 42.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.0 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +1.0 apg.

Philadelphia trades: PG Allen Iverson (29.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 7.6 apg in 42.2 minutes)
Philadelphia receives: SG Kobe Bryant (27.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 6.6 apg in 42.0 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -2.0 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -1.0 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to L.A. Lakers and Philadelphia being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and Philadelphia had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

:D
 
Poody said:
Emplay reported there are still stuff brewing!!! Mitch not done with the trades...

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"Ok, Greg. We're willing to give you Slava for for Tim Duncan, but the offer comes OFF the table at midnight tonight."

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"Maybe the worst bluff i've ever seen."

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"He's playing hardball, Kobe. We may have to throw in Tierre Brown."
 
Ninja Scooter said:
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"Ok, Greg. We're willing to give you Slava for for Tim Duncan, but the offer comes OFF the table at midnight tonight."

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"..."

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"..."

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"Maybe the worst bluff i've ever seen."

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"He's playing hardball, Kobe. We may have to throw in Tierre Brown."

:lol

Sounds like a typical Lakers trade! :D
 
according the one source, the Boozer deal might now be OFF, and the Lakers could be looking to trade the same core for BARON DAVIS?!?! And every player BUT Kobe was put on notice that they could be traded.

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"WHAT IS GOING ON?!?"
 
Ninja Scooter said:
according the one source, the Boozer deal might now be OFF, and the Lakers could be looking to trade the same core for BARON DAVIS?!?! And every player BUT Kobe was put on notice that they could be traded.

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"WHAT IS GOING ON?!?"

The hell would be wrong with that? :lol Kobe, Odom, and Davis? _Yet another stacked Laker team, as per usual. Why do teams even entertain such ludicrous deals? Kupchak must have some sort of voodoo skillZ. ;) :P
 
Ninja Scooter said:
according the one source, the Boozer deal might now be OFF, and the Lakers could be looking to trade the same core for BARON DAVIS?!?! And every player BUT Kobe was put on notice that they could be traded.

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"WHAT IS GOING ON?!?"


Whoa that would be dumb imo,those three for an injury prone pg that likes to shoot :\

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"Kobe Sutra"
 
Lakers need rebounding and inside presence more than playmaking/scoring right now. A decent pg can be had via FA in the offseason. No need to take on Baron's monster K and suspect back!!! If the Boozer deal falls though, they need to just wait!!!
 
Loki said:
The hell would be wrong with that? :lol Kobe, Odom, and Davis? yet another stacked Laker team, as per usual. Why do teams even entertain such ludicrous deals? Kupchak must have some sort of voodoo skillZ. ;) :P

not enough shots to go around. Kobe and Odom are already ball handlers, now add ANOTHER star that has to have the ball in his hand to produce? Besides, Baron has the back of a 75 year old. I love the guy (SoCal native too) but i'd rather have Boozer on this team.
 
baron davis would suit me fine. baron davis would suit me better than fine. i've wanted him on the lakers forever. his back would remain a liability, but i bet his attitude problems -- or whatever -- would dissipate in la. the lakers are, in spite of the way they play, a young, athletic team, and baron could get them running again. which is what buss rightly wants.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
not enough shots to go around. Kobe and Odom are already ball handlers, now add ANOTHER star that has to have the ball in his hand to produce? Besides, Baron has the back of a 75 year old. I love the guy (SoCal native too) but i'd rather have Boozer on this team.

Oh, no doubt Boozer's a much better fit, but either way, the team is stacked. I fully believe that when whatever trade is made happens, I'll be crying over how stupid opposing GM's are. I mean, have the Lakers ever gotten the short end of a trade? Shaq doesn't count, because there were no comparable players being shopped at the time iirc.
 
T-Mac's All-Star Weekend!

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Get away from him, Kobe! :(

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Oh shit, we are like 1 inch away from seeing a part of Yao no one wants to see.

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WTF is T-Mac doing in the back of the bus?!

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No really, someone stop him!

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Fuck it's too late, get out of the way KG!

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"No he didn't just do that in the team bus..."
 
looking at those pictures piston posted, i'm more convinced than ever that kupchak's main talent is looking competent. to look at him you'd never suspect he was a bungling schlemiel of a general manager. let's hope appearances hold up long enough to get the lakers baron or boozer. without giving up odom. i'm convinced he and kobe can play together given an actual, functional coach, and it'd be a colossal blunder to trade odom away before even exploring that potential.
 
AP:KG having a friendly chat about titties on the way to the 2005 all-star game in Denver.
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Ninja Scooter said:
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"Ok, Greg. We're willing to give you Slava for for Tim Duncan, but the offer comes OFF the table at midnight tonight."

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"..."

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"..."

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"Maybe the worst bluff i've ever seen."

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"He's playing hardball, Kobe. We may have to throw in Tierre Brown."

:lol :lol :lol

Amare is stylin' in that pic. I like that suit. But I doubt that I have $7K lying around to buy it.

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Muh fuckah, I look beddah den Amare. Look at dis ho I got. She lookin' finer den my shot. I'm so fucking high.
 
Hello everyone. It's Isamu. Hope you all enjoyed the NBA Allstar game.

I would like to make a humble request. There was an interview that aired on TNT on Saturday afternoon between John Thomson and Kevin Garnett. They showed a preview of this interview during the Minnisota/Cleveland game on Thursday night. This is an interview I wanted to see but unfortunately missed it.

Can someone please *PLEASE* upload the interview as it aired on Saturday afternoon so I can download and watch it? Please? I am willing to pay you $25 to do this! If you have the interview TiVoed or recorded in any format, please find I way to upload it, or if not, contact me and I will buy a VHS copy of it from you personally.

Someone PLEASE do this as a favor me and I will pay you $25. I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
Poody said:
KG talking to mcgrady about defense. Oh stop loki!

No, Poody, it's supposed to be KG crying, talking about his team's shortcomings to a captive-- yet entirely disinterested-- audience. :D
 
drohne said:
:lol the yellow chickenscratch, kg's entirely appropriate pose, and t-mac on the nod make it work.

Glad you enjoyed it. :D I'll tell you, it's MUCH more difficult to write with a mouse than I thought it would be. :lol
 
uh-oh, haley isn't on the southern california sports report tonight! :lol maybe dennis rodman can offer him a job emptying ashtrays, vainly pestering entertainment executives, and attending intimately to those bi-monthly herpes breakouts. that last one was needlessly unpleasant. but i'm leaving it.

no boozer, i guess. :(
 
One thing I want to know:


Is "Jack Haley" the same Jack Haley who rode Jordan and Pippen's coattails to a ring in '96 despite never playing in a single game? As I recall, he was on the bench all year, yet for some reason wasn't waived...
 
the same. apparently he provided some service to dennis rodman. don't care to imagine what this entailed. he's as much a success as an on-air "nba insider" as he was as a basketball player. you ought to see the repulsive way he lights up when he's "dishing the inside scoop." it makes one pine for the simple, clinical insanity of a steven a. smith.
 
drohne said:
the same. apparently he provided some service to dennis rodman. don't care to imagine what this entailed. he's as much a success as an on-air "nba insider" as he was as a basketball player. you ought to see the repulsive way he lights up when he's "dishing the inside scoop."

:lol

the same. apparently he provided some service to dennis rodman. don't care to imagine what this entailed.

:lol

It deserved its own laugh. :P


Man, I wish I could see some tape of him playing ball. It's guys like him who keep the NBA dream alive in the deepest recesses of my mind... :D
 
I know nothing about comics, so could someone in the know tell me from which comic are these scans from? I need to know who is the genius that included the Manu jersey in there. :-p

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T.J. Simers:
Haley's 'Scoop' on Trade Is Up Against the Clock


I talked to Jack Haley and Mitch Kupchak on Monday, and now you know why I need to take so many days off.

The NBA trading deadline is Thursday, and Haley has already traded three Lakers, including Caron Butler, to Utah, predicting the announcement will be forthcoming in less than 24 hours, while Kupchak says he hasn't brought up Butler's name to Utah, and hasn't even talked to Utah about a trade.

Kupchak is the Lakers' general manager, and he made it clear he's done nothing, and I've been saying that for some time.

Maybe Phil Jackson is calling the shots in preparation for his return, talking to Jeanie, who is relaying it to her dad, who is sharing it with one of Dennis Rodman's babes, which explains how it got to Haley. These are the Lakers, you know, and anything is possible: even breaking news from Haley.

Haley says the big three-for-one Laker trade is going to happen any hour now, while Kupchak says not so fast. Who's telling the truth?



IT'S PRETTY well accepted around here that Haley knows nothing, so I wasn't surprised when he told the "Southern California Sports Report" audience Friday night he had learned something.

He reported from the NBA All-Star game festivities in Denver that a source told him, and keep in mind he still talks to Rodman, the Lakers were interested in making a three-for-one trade.

He didn't name the players or the other team involved, he said, making it the Big TV Tease, because his source asked him to keep it quiet. So for all we know the other team involved could have been Rodman's Long Beach Jam, and the Lakers were going to send three stiffs to Long Beach — they got plenty to pick from these days, and for some time now I've maintained that's where Devean George belongs.

On Saturday's TV report from Denver, Haley said the Lakers were also talking to Sacramento about trading Lamar Odom for Peja Stojakovic and an injured Bobby Jackson. He said he didn't think the Lakers had an interest in trading Odom, but "the trade was discussed," he said, "and it's out there."

As for the three-for-one trade, he said, "his hands were tied," and he could say no more. I'm wondering — is February one of those sweeps months on TV?

Sunday the sources were working overtime. TNT had its own source and reported the Lakers had offered Odom to Sacramento for Stojakovic, and who knew TNT got its news from watching the "Southern California Sports Report"?

Haley, meanwhile, was telling his audience that the Odom deal with Sacramento, as he had suggested earlier, was probably dead. I'm sure the Lakers were relieved to hear that.

At the end of the All-Star game, Haley reported it was a done deal — the Lakers were going to trade Butler, Vlade Divac and George to Utah for Carlos Boozer. There's probably an Emmy in this for Haley, or once again a seat on the bench.

"In my opinion," Haley said Monday by telephone in a follow-up to his Sunday night TV report, "it was a done deal. I said at the time the deal would happen in the next 24 or 48 hours, or by the [Thursday] trade deadline. I thought it would happen quickly. It could blow up, but I know what's gone on.

"And I stand by my report 110%."

Tick, tick, tick … less than 24 hours, Jack.

You know, I always worry about people who give 110% or stand by their reports 110%, which suggests they might have a tendency to embellish.

"I know what you're going to do," Haley said. "I didn't want to talk with you, because you're going to direct a personal attack at me … and not dare [tick] off the Lakers. My head boss asked me to talk with you, and I'm very confident in my report. Whether it happens or not is not important…."

Whether it happens or not is everything if you're a journalist, and if you treasure your credibility. Sorry, I know that's a personal attack.

As for Kupchak, you know me, I wouldn't dare (tick) off the Lakers, so I went easy, of course, on Mr. Milquetoast, the guy who is responsible for putting together this disappointing team that might not finish above .500.

"My turn, huh?" Kupchak said, and sooner or later everyone gets a visit from Page 2. "At this time, no, there is nothing about to happen. When it comes to trading, there are some deals you have to kind of nurture, but we don't even have a deal we're nurturing."

Haley says the Lakers are going to trade Butler & Co. to Utah, and there has also been talk about Odom and Sacramento.

"I can tell you we have not offered either player [Odom and Butler] in a trade, and have not talked to Sacramento or Utah about a trade," Kupchak said.

Tick, tick, tick … in time we're going to know who had it right.

"I don't think we're going to be able to improve at any of our starting positions by the trading deadline," Kupchak said. "I think we do have to add a significant player or two, well, at least one, but more than likely that will happen in the off-season.

"By significant player I mean one of our top six or seven players. If we can make a deal to help our playoff chances this season, not jeopardize the future and add a veteran with a year on his contract, that could help."

Kupchak said he'd like the team's new coach to have a say in the kind of players added or traded away, and because the team doesn't know who the coach will be, it's another reason why he doesn't expect the Lakers to make a blockbuster deal.

"Whatever we do, we don't want to jeopardize our youth and the direction we want to go with this team," he said. "We have three young players in Kobe [Bryant], Lamar and Caron to build around."

That doesn't sound like a GM on the brink of trading one of the big three, which you'd think would make the next few hours pretty nerve-racking for Haley.

"Not in the least," Haley said. "I know what I know."

Right now he seems to know more than anyone else … tick, tick, tick.

T.J. Simers can be reached at t.j.simers@latimes.com. To read previous columns by Simers, go to latimes.com/simers.


It was bogus all along :(
 
emplay had 2 separate sources that confirmed a deal for Boozer was in the works, and then later a source that said the deal was off. Sure Haley has egg on his face (in addition to some of Dennis rodman's bodily fluids, but thats another story altogether) but its not like he pulled the whole thing out of his ass. I don't understand why people take what GMs and owners say for 100% fact. These guys will ALWAYS deny, deny, deny until the last possible second.

still, why does EVERYTHING that concersn the Lakers have to end up with so much goddamn drama? I can't take this anymore. We can't even make regular, NBA transactions without shit happening. :lol
 
i have to agree. Mitch saying kobe, odom and butler are the lakers future is just to save face incase the jazz back out of the deal in the last sec. I still strongly believe a trade will be made.

so anyone sleeping for the 3rd consecutive night? :P We'll know by tomorrow. If caron will be playing? Will Boozer pratice in utah?
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
I know nothing about comics, so could someone in the know tell me from which comic are these scans from? I need to know who is the genius that included the Manu jersey in there. :-p

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That's from the latest issue of 100 Bullets that came out last week. 100 Bullets #58.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
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"Ok, Greg. We're willing to give you Slava for for Tim Duncan, but the offer comes OFF the table at midnight tonight."

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"..."

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"..."

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"Maybe the worst bluff i've ever seen."

Bryant_potpisivanje.jpg

"He's playing hardball, Kobe. We may have to throw in Tierre Brown."

:lol :lol :lol






He didn't name the players or the other team involved, he said, making it the Big TV Tease, because his source asked him to keep it quiet. So for all we know the other team involved could have been Rodman's Long Beach Jam, and the Lakers were going to send three stiffs to Long Beach — they got plenty to pick from these days, and for some time now I've maintained that's where Devean George belongs.

:lol
 
Media sucking off the Rockets now,but I dont mind :P

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/rockets/2005-02-21-rockets-cover_x.htm

After delay on launching pad, patient Rockets have taken off
By David DuPree, USA TODAY

Tracy McGrady has a hole in his game, the same hole he sees in teammate Yao Ming's. "We both have a tendency to bail defenders out," McGrady says. "When I'm the most effective is when I am going to the basket and when I am getting to the free throw line and not just settling for jump shots. That just opens up my overall game."

McGrady is in Yao's ear constantly, during games, on the bench and after games. "I keep telling him to go straight up on his jump shot and stop fading away on it, and when he's inside to go up strong and dunk the ball — every time."

Yao grins in agreement.

"I can always hear him telling me to dunk, dunk, dunk," the Houston Rockets' 7-6 center says.

"I am starting to listen to him."

McGrady has been listening to himself, too, and as a result the Rockets are making plenty of noise around the NBA. Whatever holes the slow-starting Rockets had earlier in the season are closing up quickly. They are 32-21, with the sixth-best record in the Western Conference.

Houston comes out of the All-Star break with the longest current winning streak (eight games) and has won 16 of its last 20.

"They are a good team and will be a factor the rest of the year and in the playoffs," San Antonio Spurs assistant P.J. Carlesimo says. "They're a difficult matchup for everybody. Except for Shaq (O'Neal), no one distorts a game like Yao, and Tracy is, well, he's Tracy. How do you guard him?"

The Minnesota Timberwolves' Kevin Garnett says a center such as Yao and a perimeter player such as McGrady mean trouble for Houston opponents. "They have that chemistry thing going now, too," Garnett says. "That makes them even tougher."

Chemistry is an elusive yet essential factor for a winning team, and the Rockets were slow to get it for some understandable reasons. They traded starters Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato in the offseason to get McGrady, and there are only four holdovers from last season's team.

Where Yao and Francis bonded from Day 1, partly because of Francis' outgoing personality, Yao and McGrady were slower adjusting to each other.

McGrady is more laid-back and likes to relax in his room on the road or when he's home. Yao is the same way, so they don't have the same type of off-court relationship Yao and Francis had.

McGrady and Yao enjoy being teammates, however, and are about as close as two guys who like their privacy can be. To see them interact in the locker room is to think they grew up together. Sometimes Yao will start a sentence and McGrady will finish the thought. On the court, it took awhile for them to adjust.

"I think we both deferred too much to the other," McGrady says. "I never played with a big guy before, and I just thought he'd play inside all the time and I'd play outside and take a back seat. And Yao thought, 'Wow, I've got the two-time scoring champion now so I don't have to do as much.'

"He is just more confident now," McGrady says of Yao. "He's done a better job of rebounding and staying in games. I can definitely see a change from then to now."

Yao seemed to be in constant foul trouble early in the season because, he says, he was not reacting to plays quickly enough. As a result, Yao got caught out of position, getting to his spot late and picking up a lot of blocking and reach-in fouls.

"I started making quicker decisions and getting to where I am supposed to be faster," he says.

Van Gundy salvages season

Adding to the adjustment of the two stars was that the projected starter at point guard, Bob Sura, began the season on the injured list after back surgery. His replacement, Charlie Ward, was sidelined by an injury, and the Rockets were left with a collection of incongruous parts to go with Yao and McGrady.

It just didn't work.

The Rockets opened 6-11, and talk surfaced that Houston was the NBA's biggest disappointment. But Yao and McGrady began learning how to complement each other, Sura got healthy and Jon Barry and David Wesley came via trades.

The team became quicker and faster and had better passing, outside shooting and ball penetration and much better perimeter defense.

McGrady credits coach Jeff Van Gundy. "No one is more prepared than he is, and that makes us more prepared than anyone else," McGrady says. "All you have to do is sit back and listen to him. When we were struggling, he just told us to trust him and keep doing what we were supposed to do and things would get better. And look where we are now."

Miami Heat coach Stan Van Gundy, Jeff's brother, expected this from the Rockets.

"I'm not surprised they're coming on," Stan says. "You give Jeff time to develop a team and they'll always do an outstanding job. They've gotten personnel more to their liking with the trades. They've got more quickness, more energy; they've got Tracy back to the three spot exclusively, which is what Jeff wanted. It's his type of team in that they play hard with a lot of energy."

Jeff Van Gundy says he and his players realize they are in this thing together "and everybody has to do a little bit of everything to cover up our weaknesses."

The most glaring one is on the boards: The Rockets are next-to-last in the league in offensive rebounding.

Schedule tough rest of way

During the eight-game winning streak, Yao is averaging 20.5 points, 8.3 rebounds and 2.1 blocked shots and is shooting 64.5%; McGrady is averaging 25.4 points, 7.3 assists and 5.8 rebounds.

The role players are setting the table for them and helping clear it afterward. Sura has nine near triple-doubles and scored a career-high 35 in another game. Wesley, after shooting 37.3% in the first three months, is shooting 52.4% in February. Barry is shooting 56.3% (9-for-16) from three-point range and 51.9% from the field in February. And Juwan Howard, who came from the Orlando Magic in the McGrady trade, is averaging 13.4 points and 9.7 rebounds and is 20-for-22 on free throws in February.

Aside from the statistical improvement, Van Gundy is just as pleased with Yao's change in temperament.

"He has been a much more active weak-side defender, and he has been so consistent at the offensive end. But the thing is that he is happy," Van Gundy says. "He's selfless, but he also has great pride. He knows he can deliver, and he wants the ball. But if other guys are making shots and playing well, he is as happy for them as he would be for himself."

The Rockets have a tough schedule the rest of the way. They have two games left with the Spurs, three with the Phoenix Suns and four with the Seattle SuperSonics, the top three teams in the conference, beginning tonight at home against the Sonics. They visit the Spurs on Wednesday.

"If we can navigate ourselves through the last 29 games and make the playoffs, I think we will be a team that can compete," Van Gundy says.

"Our bad start through the easy part of the schedule put us in a hole, so it will be difficult to get the home-court advantage, which is so important. But we know what's ahead of us."

Wesley came to the Rockets in a December trade with the New Orleans Hornets, one of the worst teams in the league, and says playing on a good team "revives you. When you are losing, it affects you. You still try to play as hard as you can, but when you aren't winning, it just isn't fun. Playing is fun again for me."

Because he likes his current team so much, Van Gundy says people get the impression he didn't like last year's team.

"I liked that team a lot," he says. "We had no desire to trade Steve or Cuttino, but when you get a chance to get Tracy McGrady, you get him."

McGrady's next task with Yao is to get him to be meaner so he will get more respect from officials. Yao has been called for only two technical fouls in his three seasons in the NBA.

"I don't know how he does it," McGrady says. "He's too nice. You have to let the officials know that you're there and that you care. The potential is there, but everybody wants him to be this dominant guy like Shaq. That's not in his personality. But we do have to make him a little meaner."

"How's this?" Yao says making a grimace.

"Save it for the games," McGrady says. "Save it for the games."

UPGRADED ROCKET FUEL

Only four players who were with the Houston Rockets last season — Yao Ming, Maurice Taylor, Scott Padgett and Clarence Weatherspoon — remain with the team. How Houston acquired the other Rockets:

Tracy McGrady Offseason trade with Orlando Magic, with Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato to the Magic.
Juwan Howard Part of McGrady trade with Orlando.
Reece Gaines Part of McGrady trade with Orlando.
Charlie Ward Signed as a free agent in offseason.
Bob Sura Signed as a free agent in offseason.
Andre Barrett Signed as a free agent in offseason.
Ryan Bowen Signed as a free agent on offseason.
Dikembe Mutombo Dec. 8 trade with Chicago Bulls for Eric Piatkowski, Adrian Griffin and Mike Wilks
Jon Barry Dec. 23 trade with Atlanta Hawks for Tyronn Lue.
David Wesley Dec. 27 trade with New Orleans Hornets for Jim Jackson and Bostjan Nachbar.
Rod Strickland - Signed Jan. 19 as a free agent
 
New PR's are out:

1 (4) Spurs 41-12
Apparently all the teams around San Antonio didn't like seeing Spurs punished with a steep drop, either. So they helped SA get back where it belongs to start the stretch run.

2 (5) Mavericks 35-16
Every team needs an All-Star break, but if any team didn't want one, it was Dallas after that 4-0 road trip. And Mavs are still waiting to be full strength, which hasn't happened all season.

3 (1) Suns 41-13
Suns apparently aren't greedy. Team sources say they'll be perfectly happy with any win total in the 60s.

4 (3) Heat 40-14
Zo's arrival will give Miami the top three picks from the '92 draft, with Shaq and Laettner. Weirder still: Miami has employed eight of the top 10 players from that draft, plus No. 12 Harold Miner.

5 (2) SuperSonics 35-15
So how soon do Supes clinch the division? Can they actually clinch before April? Not impossible.

6 (7) Pistons 32-19
This time, it really looks like they're back. Pistons survived the toughest part of their schedule (seven back-to-backs in January) and rank as one of only two teams holding teams under 90 ppg.

7 (6) Rockets 32-21
An eight-game win streak is encouraging in itself, but then there's this: Yao is quietly averaging 20.5 ppg on 64.5-percent shooting during Houston's 8-0 run. Not bad at all.

8 (12) Bulls 26-23
Who's hotter than Memphis and Dallas? Who's as hot as Houston and Detroit? Bulls' record since Jan. 1 is 17-6, tied with Rockets and Pistons for the league's best in the span.

9 (11) Cavaliers 30-21
Michael Redd isn't coming to Cleveland this week -- sorry. But Cavs are still trying to find a shooter before Thursday's deadline.

10 (9) Grizzlies 30-23
Gasol was disappointed but not surprised by the snub. Memphis, after all, has never had an All-Star, and neither did Vancouver.

11 (8) Kings 33-20
There's a reason so much trade talk is swirling around these guys. Adelman calls Sacto's recent 1-6 slide 'the toughest stretch we've gone through since I've been here.'

12 (10) Wizards 30-22
It has been a storybook season so far -- including a dreamy weekend for Arenas and Jamison -- but it's getting to the point Wiz need Hughes back if they hope to claim a top-four slot.

13 (13) Magic 28-24
Magic still boasts an encouraging 13-9 record against the West, but -- besides the latest Francis flap -- Orlando's 9-18 road mark is No. 8 on the East's list of 10 playoff contenders.

14 (15) Celtics 27-26
If they can survive six games out of seven against West foes, Celtics' remaining schedule is as favorable as Philadelphia's. Which means Boston should hang onto its Atlantic lead.

15 (20) Timberwolves 27-27
At stake for Wolves is the league's second-longest active playoff streak. Minnesota has made eight straight trips to the post-season, second only to the Lakers' 10 in a row.

16 (14) Nets 23-30
Kidd has three triple-doubles in his past six games entering Tuesday's Vince return to Toronto. So, no, Nets are obviously in no rush to move him.
About time Dallas' depth is getting some recognition.

And the Bulls at #8? O_O
 
:lol Rockets on a 8 game win streak and blow out a good Washington team right before the break,but they fall a spot...good stuff.

Also the Bulls are good,but #8?...I have to post this too ...O_o
 
Who wants to tell me about Demetrius "Hook" Mitchell?

I just heard the dude on the Rome show, man that was a cool interview. Apparently he was voted the #3 streetball player of all-time. He was 5'9-5'10" and jumped over a VW bug and did a 360 dunk. His favorite dunk of all was when he broke the glass backboard! :lol :lol

That peaked my attention, he got messed up with drugs at a very early age though, and spent over four years in prison.

Is this dude for real?
 
"I don't know how he does it," McGrady says. "He's too nice. You have to let the officials know that you're there and that you care. The potential is there, but everybody wants him to be this dominant guy like Shaq. That's not in his personality. But we do have to make him a little meaner."

"How's this?" Yao says making a grimace.

"Save it for the games," McGrady says. "Save it for the games."

:lol
 
Panther_Fan said:
Who wants to tell me about Demetrius "Hook" Mitchell?

I just heard the dude on the Rome show, man that was a cool interview. Apparently he was voted the #3 streetball player of all-time. He was 5'9-5'10" and jumped over a VW bug and did a 360 dunk. His favorite dunk of all was when he broke the glass backboard! :lol :lol

That peaked my attention, he got messed up with drugs at a very early age though, and spent over four years in prison.

Is this dude for real?

He is for real, there is a DVD about him called "Hooked - The Legend of Demetrius 'Hook' Mitchell" I've never seen it, but I heard it was pretty good.
 
Well, I haven't posted here for a week on purpose because I knew you guys would bring it come AllStar weekend (I like to read the posts here in bunches). I couldn't have guessed how strong you guys would come this time however. PURE COMIC GOLD!! :lol

Every time the thread seems to slip away, you guys bring it back with avengence. That joke about white people being set back was classic since I NEVER saw that in written form before (Rome's radio substitute brought up his shame of being white yesterday though).

Anyway, great stuff guys. You all should recieve an emmy for continuously kicking TV's ass and being my prefered choice for entertainment. Greatest OT Thread featuring the Greatest American sport, for now anyway ;) (The Detroit brawl NEVER HAPPENED!!)
 
Sports Guy says his All-Star column is tomorrow. Today, he writes about his game of P-I-G vs. Shaq :lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/050222

Friday, 8 a.m. PST, Los Angeles: The Sports Gal drives me to LAX and starts the token "Fight on the way to the airport," as required in Rule 43B in the "Code Of Females" guidebook.

First, if my airline for the weekend was an NBA player, it would be Michael Olowokandi -- bad reputation, perennial underachiever, but a strangely palatable option since it's impossible to find a serviceable big man at a reasonable price. Everyone who flies this airline ends up feeling like Kevin McHale, the last NBA GM to sign Olowokandi, and someone who would DEFINITELY never do it again. For the purposes of this column, we'll be referring to this weekend's airline as Olowokandi Air.

10:50 a.m. -- It's just starting to dawn on me that MY EFFING PLANE LEFT WITHOUT ME. I'm screaming louder than anyone right now; it's like I turned into Stephen A. Simmons. If this was an episode of "Lost," Jack and Locke would be handcuffing me to the wreckage of the plane until I calmed down.

4:30 p.m. -- Cue up the Rocky music: Now I'm up $50 for the day and the pit boss just ambled over to see what was happening. Does it get any better than Vegas? Seriously, does it?

5:30 p.m. -- Let's just say that things have turned. Top-five signs you're getting crushed at a blackjack table ...

1. The dealer keeps saying, "I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry," like she just rear-ended you in her car.

2. You're getting more 13s and 14s than R. Kelly.

(I know, I know -- I've used that joke 20 times. But nobody has replaced R. Kelly as the "Formidable celebrity who allegedly has sex with underaged girls du jour." Until it happens, we're stuck with R. Sorry.)

3. Not only are you NOT tipping the dealer anymore, you're mad that you were tipping her in the first place, and only because she is clearly the devil.

4. Not only do you have the sarcastic guy at the table who's hissing stuff like, "Oh, great, it's another five!" and "Cool, I can't wait to split these aces and get reamed again!", you're actually the one saying these things.

5. When the pit boss wanders over, you have an inexplicable urge to stand up in his face and scream "(BLEEP) YOU!!!!!!!" just to see what would happen.

9 a.m. -- Random note: I'm totally sold on this Shaq-Wade friendship -- total big brother/little brother thing. There's absolutely no reason for Wade to be here right now. It's nine in the morning! You think these guys aren't legit? You think these guys aren't best friends? I want you to watch Dwyane Wade laugh at another dumb Shaq joke ... watch this ... watch this right here ... BAM! You see that?

Shaq hauls down the rebound and smiles to himself. I'd like to think he was relieved, although there was a 90 percent chance he didn't give a crap. We'll never know for sure. All I know is that I came within about one inch of forcing him to make a three to stay alive. And since Shaq is a smart dude, and he has no interest in losing at anything to some dorky white guy ... well, his next shot is a dunk. Ballgame.

(Note: You may not believe this, but I can't dunk.)

Did he cheat? I'll leave that up to you to decide. I pretended to try a dunk, threw it off the backboard and that was that. We shook hands (his thumb was practically touching my right elbow) and Shaq headed for a series of sit-down interviews with the assembled media, as I accepted congratulations from some of the surrounding people (OK, one guy shook my hand). Between my bad back, the lack of sleep and my year away from the game, I'd like to think my effort brought back memories of Willis Reed in the 1970 Finals, only on a much, much, much, much (repeat "much" 700 more times) smaller level. But at least I didn't embarrass myself.

:lol :lol :lol
 
10:50 a.m. -- It's just starting to dawn on me that MY EFFING PLANE LEFT WITHOUT ME. I'm screaming louder than anyone right now; it's like I turned into Stephen A. Simmons. If this was an episode of "Lost," Jack and Locke would be handcuffing me to the wreckage of the plane until I calmed down.

:lol :lol

And, this seems as good a place as any to discuss this.

My journalism ethics professor used to be the managing editor of the Philadelphia Enquirer, the paper for which Screamin' A Smith works. Last week, we're going over the New York Times ethics code, and my teacher is telling us why it's better than any other. And he's full of shit, but I'm dead tired from this lecture and don't feel like arguing.

All of a sudden, he starts talking about TV apperances by Times employees. The first rule he mentions is that you must appear as "(Name), of the New York Times". And says "If any of you have seen Stephen A Smith on ESPN, you may have noticed that he has recently been credited only as Stephen A Smith of ESPN. This would get him fired if he worked for a paper like the New York Times, or currently had an editor who put rules such as this in place", which got my attention because this "This man raped my daughter" look on his face while talking about Smith.

Then he moves on and talks about another rule, which is that you can't appear too much on television. Again, he mentions Smith. "Stephen A Smith appears multiple times per day on ESPN, which would clearly violate this rule. He's always on the network, it's as though he works for them and writes for the Enquirer in his spare time instead of the other way around like it should be" and slips immediately back into boring lecture mode.

He speaks for a few minutes, and gets to the "worthless opinion-mongering" section of the code. He slips into his alter-ego, the evil editor who wants to destroy Stephen A Smith, and growls "That's, of course, the only thing that Stephen A Smith is good at, if you even want to call it that."

The newsroom of the Philadelphia Enquirer was named after this guy, and whenever he discussed Smith that day, which was for about 15 minutes of the lecture, he seemed as though he regretted retiring because now he can't technically fire Smith. He's one of the more boring lecturers you can encounter, but he has a firey hatred for Smith that makes me respect the man more than any of his professional achievements can.
 
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