Doesn't Origin have that money back refund thing going on?
Why didn't you just play a few hours and get a refund if you didn't like it?
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The Sims 4 |OT| Behold its true form and despair!
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Why didn't you just play a few hours and get a refund if you didn't like it?
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
My word, its just loading screen after loading screen.
15 second loads and then the new area you arrive to has just 4 buildings in it.
Backwards.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That was as much damage control as they were willing to budget. There hasn't been a new update in 4 months, and there are still loads of problems with the game.
Yes but that still means they cared enough to bother. They would have left it as is if they really didn't care, hence my original point.
Either way in regards to Sim City. I think they'd be better off just moving to the next one, and make use of what they learned. Instead of trying to fix something which is kind of broken from a fundamental level. Especially since some people won't go back regardless of how much they fix it.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
They cared enough to bother to help sell their expansion for 6 months for that short term profit gain. If we're being nitpicky about semantics, sure they cared enough to do that, but for me, it does not put them above "not giving a shit" territory.
They could have done a LOT more to salvage the game. They did not. Maybe once Sims 4 releases, they'll put more resources back into SimCity patches, but I'm not holding my breath.
TetraGenesis
Member
If Sims 4 were the game it deserves to be, tomorrow would be one of the most exciting days of the year for me.
But now...it's just a Tuesday.
But now...it's just a Tuesday.
I'm not so sure I buy the argument that there are tons of uninformed people out there who will purchase this game sight unseen. That list of pulled features has been floating around for a while now. And Sim CIty was a different situation. If I recall correctly, we didn't know of a lot of the issues that game would have until AFTER release. Perhaps I wasn't paying as much attention as others but I remember even the Bombcast guys in their GOTY discussions talking about how that game was nothing like what they had been led to believe it was.
I think EA may be disappointed by their week 1 sales.
I think EA may be disappointed by their week 1 sales.
Chance Hale
Member
Seriously, perhaps there will be some enjoyment to be had out of seeing how much worse it can get as people get access to the "full" game :/ If nothing else I'm just completely bewildered by the loading screen regression. If it was originally an online game like some people think wouldn't you want the scale to be increased if anything? I mean, it's a 20 second load to a place with a couple houses and a street.
Dorsal Axe
Member
The same way they fucked up the fifth SimCity game.
Iced_Eagle
Member
PC Centric put up their "review" of The Sims 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI1LwaV1egk
Summarizing the 30-min video: Overall gameplay is a bit better than Sims 3. More evolutionary than revolutionary, and core mechanics feel more refined. Mood system is neat (one of his sims was upset and he had an option to have them take an angry poop... lol.). Community UGC is well integrated (I think he said you just press F4 to pull the gallery up). Parts of the game feel like they've taken a step back though (namely pools and not being able to seamlessly go into other houses). If you hate The Sims series, this one won't make you change your mind. If you have TS3 and all of its expansions, it's up to you whether you want to justify buying the game before it has expansions out, as you're going from a game with 13 expansion packs to a new one with 0. If you maybe skipped TS3, or only got the base version of TS3, then he recommends picking it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI1LwaV1egk
Summarizing the 30-min video: Overall gameplay is a bit better than Sims 3. More evolutionary than revolutionary, and core mechanics feel more refined. Mood system is neat (one of his sims was upset and he had an option to have them take an angry poop... lol.). Community UGC is well integrated (I think he said you just press F4 to pull the gallery up). Parts of the game feel like they've taken a step back though (namely pools and not being able to seamlessly go into other houses). If you hate The Sims series, this one won't make you change your mind. If you have TS3 and all of its expansions, it's up to you whether you want to justify buying the game before it has expansions out, as you're going from a game with 13 expansion packs to a new one with 0. If you maybe skipped TS3, or only got the base version of TS3, then he recommends picking it up.
fluffydelusions
Member
Someone should maybe setup the review thread? Should be fun
The Sims 4 represents the worst of EA. Stripped to the bones and still $60. There is no way that a person who has even 2 expansions to Sims 3 should even consider buying this.
If you are that curious watch the Twitch streams like I have and observe how lame this offering truly is. EA should be ashamed to offer this to such a loyal bunch that are their Sim fans.
If you are that curious watch the Twitch streams like I have and observe how lame this offering truly is. EA should be ashamed to offer this to such a loyal bunch that are their Sim fans.
CrunchyFrog
Member
EA has no confidence on their product and are expecting fan-sites to do what they themselves could not. EMBARRASSING by all involved.
Jesus tap dancing christ
Genius
Baron_Calamity
Member
I'm ready
I'm ready
Never has a username held more irony.
Three traits only? Wow, I'm not even surprised when I hear about something else they've taken out anymore.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
That whole exchange between SimsVIP and Stapleton...wow. Somebody really takes their Sims seriously.
Aquamarine
Member
Apparently this comes out in 20 minutes.
I'll get it...if for nothing else, I have to see for myself how it compares to its predecessors.
I don't care that I'm part of the problem.
I'll get it...if for nothing else, I have to see for myself how it compares to its predecessors.
I don't care that I'm part of the problem.
You'll have 24 hours to return it apparently through Orgin guaranteed great games policy.
Just give a detailed review
I've seen a surprising amount of talk about people excited for tomorrow to get this on my facebook feed, when it's never filled with talk about any game...so my anecdotal evidence atleast makes it seem like the game will do alright.
I wish I was excited, but man. I'll be watching this thread to see how people feel about it.
I wish I was excited, but man. I'll be watching this thread to see how people feel about it.
Aquamarine
Member
Apparently it just came out. Like...1 minute ago.
serenewarfare
Banned
I've been playing it throughout the day and, don't shoot me guys, it's not bad. Yes, there are things missing, but if I hadn't been told what isn't there, I would only have noticed a few things missing. What is there is a very streamlined and polished version of base Sims 3 with improvements like the multitasking and mood system. I like it. I don't know if it is worth $60, but I like it.
Chance Hale
Member
There's certainly nothing wrong with hoping.....it's just very unrealistic.
And this still really hurts. Keep getting excited that a new Sims is out and then it all comes rushing back :/
TetraGenesis
Member
I'm ready
Oh no no, I think you've misunderstood, this isn't a hype thread. You don't get hyped in this thread. You get mad.
serenewarfare
Banned
I've had zero performance issues. Game runs 100x better than Sims 3 ever did.
Chance Hale
Member
Pretty easy when there's nothing in the game to simulate.
serenewarfare
Banned
Whatever the reason is, it runs better. I've already stated my opinion on the game.
Why would you do that?
Member
I think I remember reading that the system requirements are less than the ones for Sims 3, lol. It should theoretically run fine on anything Sims 3 runs on.
Try telling that to a 47 year old mother who is still getting the game because it's suppose to be "better" than the sims 3 -_-
I saw some of the stream and it looks ok for what it is. I'll probably wait til it hits an origin sale because 60 dollars for this game alone with all of the missing features....lol.
serenewarfare
Banned
Yeah, I got it from Green Man for $40 with a voucher. I wasn't paying $60 for it.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
I watched this video and it seemed like he was really hesitant to say anything negative (or anything too positive either) about it. Fair overview about the game, but it seemed like he didn't make any outline of point he wanted to cover. Instead, he just sorta talked casually about it while playing it for 30 minutes. Not much of a review as I hoped to see, but a fairly simple overview of what to expect and some fair suggestion of whether to buy or not. Worth watching.
I really like the community integration, seeing all these other people's houses and stuff done and it doesn't take alt-tabbing or some long loading screen. Multi-tasking and the real-time shadows is really really cool. From watching them actually happen, I don't mind the loading screens. Loading Sims 3 on my computer (which is fairly good for it's age today) takes forever, so I'm now okay with loading screens. I'll probably pick it up when it hits below $20 if I still care about it when the time comes.
I will say this. In 4, the Sims are MUCH better about rolling from one thing to another. I have a 2 Sim household, and if one needs to run to the bathroom, the Sim will start heading there instantly instead of squirming and waving then robotically turning around towards the bathroom and running to it.
The multi-tasking is cool, but it does seem like a lot going on that doesn't mean anything. I love the new UI though, and I think the graphics look really nice so far. There does seem to be a smaller feel to the public areas which kind of sucks, but it is what it is. Part of why I liked University so much was the public areas. I just wish there were more. That said, I think those public areas are only fun when you're just playing one sim. And I love that my Sim and the other Sim naturally started up a conversation while mine was preparing food. No awkwardness at all. And the way you can get group convos going on to build up multiple relationships is nice.
The multi-tasking is cool, but it does seem like a lot going on that doesn't mean anything. I love the new UI though, and I think the graphics look really nice so far. There does seem to be a smaller feel to the public areas which kind of sucks, but it is what it is. Part of why I liked University so much was the public areas. I just wish there were more. That said, I think those public areas are only fun when you're just playing one sim. And I love that my Sim and the other Sim naturally started up a conversation while mine was preparing food. No awkwardness at all. And the way you can get group convos going on to build up multiple relationships is nice.
Sounds exactly like my sister lol
She's a huge Sims fan and was very disappointed to read about all the missing stuff but she's still kinda hoping it's good after all and wants it.
No, you pick 3 traits initially. There's plenty to choose from. You can gain more traits by doing specific things.
I played for about 2 hours last night and I enjoyed it. Sims seem generally smarter, being able to do multiple actions at the same time is great. Multi person conversations is cool too. Not a fan of the loading screens travelling about, but the bonus of that seems to be you can now visit either of the 2 base game towns - you dont have to pick 1 town initially like in 3, so in theory as expansions and mods are released with more towns there could end up being an absolute tonne of places to go. There's definitely a base game missing content feel if you've gone from playing 3 with 11 expansions to this, but that'll obviously improve over time and is to be expected.
yea its a rushed review. He seemed to roll this out to get the quick views while commonly known review sources are scrambling to put out their reviews.