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The Spoony Experiment

I suggest listening to his commentary on that new movie they did. I remember him saying that he saw how this all was going to pan out, and that this wasn't the right direction for internet "personalities" or whatever; basically he thought if they go that way it wasn't going to last. I'm not sure if it was id, since he was laid off right at the time and he was trying to save face, but it is looking to be more and more true.

Yeah, that's where I heard it. That movie, I didn't even care for the first one, so I never bothered to watch the rest of them, but Spoony said he was addressing some things about the whole blow-over with Doug's site, so I listened to it for a bit. And if he did say that, then damn.

Either way, things are not looking "Awesome" for Channel Awesome.

oh that was terrible
 
Birth By Sleep critical was pretty bad compared to FM+, it made the game weaker compared to proud. Haven't tried DDDs.

Yeah, I actually refrained from critical in BBS and stuck with proud, I felt the combat was engaging enough on that difficulty.

Critical mode was a MUST for KH2FM though, it changed the game completely in my eyes.

Getting curb stomped by tiny shadows was a good wake up call.
 
Yeah, he jumped ship at the right time.

According to a podcast/vlog whatever, Doug had asked him to move to Chicago to be a part of it, but Spoony declined.

Yeah, that's where I heard it. That movie, I didn't even care for the first one, so I never bothered to watch the rest of them, but Spoony said he was addressing some things about the whole blow-over with Doug's site, so I listened to it for a bit. And if he did say that, then damn.



oh that was terrible



but yeah that was a good move from him,I think when Doug told Spoony about Demo Reel Spoony was like " fuck that I'm out of here"

it's sad that Demo Reel is everything that Doug -as NC- laugh at and hated, it's like he kept 4 years telling he fans to have higher standards in movies and hate low quality and poor acting just to throw all that at them in the end.

Either way,things are not looking "Awesome" for Channel Awesome.

lolz

at this rate I give them 1 year max before they shut down (or the other reviewers go away and make a new site away from Demo Reel)
 
Oh dear, that demo reel. Why do so many of these internet critics get delusions of grandeur? The worst offense you can commit against your audience is to make them feel embarrassed watching. And, boy, did I feel embarrassed watching that. I really do not need to see a bunch of bad, amateur actors rip off a mediocre Jack Black film.
 
Yeah, that's where I heard it. That movie, I didn't even care for the first one, so I never bothered to watch the rest of them, but Spoony said he was addressing some things about the whole blow-over with Doug's site, so I listened to it for a bit. And if he did say that, then damn.

Either way, things are not looking "Awesome" for Channel Awesome.

oh that was terrible

Oh my.

Yeah, I mean what did they expect? That's what happens when you put your worst aspects of the product/creation to the forefront. That's why I'd be fine if we got more VLOGs, Counter Monkeys and Let's Plays from Spoony.

Internet acting sucks.
 
Wait, NC's Scooby Doo review was his last one? Because that's the one review where I went "fuck it" and didn't go back. I had no idea the series was ending at any point in time, but that "review" was completely insufferable. I can only take so much unfunny screaming.
 
And I have Spoony to thank for getting me to finally buy and play through Planescape: Torment (played it in the past only a little bit). After watching that Counter Monkey and seeing it on GoG, I decided to take the plunge. Been playing it for a few hours now and it's absolutely fantastic. Love it so much and the world is just so cool.
 
Wait, NC's Scooby Doo review was his last one? Because that's the one review where I went "fuck it" and didn't go back. I had no idea the series was ending at any point in time, but that "review" was completely insufferable. I can only take so much unfunny screaming.

Yeah it was really a shitty finale.

He was just so boring in the last few episodes of NC because according to him in his vlog he didn't feel it anymore.which is weird to me because these guys should be very passionate about their field (look at Spoony and Linkara they love what they are doing) but Doug sounded like he was doing NC as a forced job or something.
 
People liked Nostalgia Critic? Shit was unbearable. All I've seen from him is insufferable screaming into the camera and the so called reviews really were just movie summaries with poor commentary. Spoony is also pretty bad with his skits, but at least there's some value apart from that in his FF10 thing. (iirc, at least)
The Plinkett reviews really shit on anything Nostalgia Critic, in both good humour (though even here not everything's gold) and simply doing a well done critique. If only more of these clowns on the internet had similar quality... People giving them hits must be the same audience that thinks Simpsons is still good, just like Big Bang Theory and similar crap?
 
So, I haven't actually been to channel awesome in several months (before starting grad school), and the talk in here about demo reel made me go investigate the first episode.


Abysmal.


If you are going to attempt to do something that is entirely production, get better production equipment. Also, try writing something that is entertaining. Also, try to make it in a format that doesn't need an intro explaining the format or the time required for producing it. Also, make something good, if it's going to be that long. Holy crap.
 
So, I haven't actually been to channel awesome in several months (before starting grad school), and the talk in here about demo reel made me go investigate the first episode.


Abysmal.

This is a systemic problem with amateur internet productions. Their comedy value has always been somewhat limited, but it's reduced to zero when they move away from critique and snark and towards more conventional entertainment.
 
Yeah, Demo Reel is pretty much the worst thing ever. I understand him not wanting to do Nostalgia Critic any more, but this is not a suitable replacement.
 
My experience with the NC is from the Retsupurae video about his abysmal Let's Play... Blech.

Ha ha, yeah we should!

I hope KH games can keep the difficulty as it should be, having open environments to fight in leaves room for a lot of fun challenges and great player agency, but it has to be balanced well and designed correctly.
I definitely agree. BbS was probably the only KH game I liked because of its battle additions alone. Crit Mode in BbS is kind of messed up, but I'm hard-headed and... well, anyway... FM+ in KH2 did it fine. If the games could be more like BbS and build upon the foundations of BbS, I'd probably like them a little more. But otherwise, I don't like the KH games that much.
 
To be fair, the first episode of Demo Reel is not the one you want to watch to get an accurate impression of it. Doug put out a video after that episode saying that they knew it wasn't good, and they were going to re-work the series. After that, it got a bit better, but...it's still not that great. Still though, don't judge it by its awful first episode. Judge it by its slightly less awful but still pretty bad second/third episodes.

I give it a couple more months at max before Demo Reel bombs completely and Doug either brings back NC or tries something else. Demo Reel obviously isn't working.
 
You'd be surprised to how much depth in terms of strategy there could be in those systems if you look for them and start paying attention to such things as animation speeds, timing, party synergy for combos (with regards to Tales), and cancelling attacks.

Precisely. I really enjoyed XII and at some point started to rush, no grinding, just to open the world. It took real strategy to go ahead and power through the encounters - the system had that potential; things like timing attacks to get out of the way and learning the range of enemies became mandatory. Turn based systems are way simpler and only appear to be strategically complex through artifice and hamfisted mechanics.
 
Oh dear, that demo reel. Why do so many of these internet critics get delusions of grandeur?

I wonder this too. Perhaps ripping apart the work of others for a living plants the seed of a delusion in their minds: if they know all of the mistakes that others make, their own output will obviously be perfect as they can't possibly fall into the same traps. I dare say that the obsessive adoration heaped upon them by some fans doesn't enhance their ability to be self critical either.
 
And I have Spoony to thank for getting me to finally buy and play through Planescape: Torment (played it in the past only a little bit). After watching that Counter Monkey and seeing it on GoG, I decided to take the plunge. Been playing it for a few hours now and it's absolutely fantastic. Love it so much and the world is just so cool.

Which Counter Monkey was that?
 
The collapse of Channel Awesome is incredibly curious to me. Here you have a webiste with multiple producers that's built upon, primarily, one act. That act is take out to pasture and then replaced with something of zero quality. And this is done without any consideration to how confusing the site design already is.

A lot of the feigned outrage "humor" I find more embarrassing than hilarious, like the individual is pulling for laughs. However, when Doug stuck to critique and told jokes based upon the actual film, he would often hit his mark. It was never perfect, but it obviously had enough viewers to create this "company" around and to pay his bills.

I'm curious because I'm confident that most of the "staff" (not sure what you'd call the other producers) on the site had to know what Doug was doing. Why didn't any of them say "hey, before you do this, you mind having something in place for us to watch so we can see what the fuck is going on." It's not a big deal if your, say, Film Brain and you're riding Doug's coattails, his audience coming for NC will still probably laugh at your shit. However, Demo Reel is terrible on every level. Uninspired, old jokes, bad acting, etc.

Good on Spoony for not associating with that Drivel. The only other three people I watch on that site are Todd, Nostalgia Chick, and Rap Critic. I hope they'll be able to keep doing their bits on youtube, cause that site can't last forever.
 
The collapse of Channel Awesome is incredibly curious to me. Here you have a webiste with multiple producers that's built upon, primarily, one act. That act is take out to pasture and then replaced with something of zero quality. And this is done without any consideration to how confusing the site design already is.

A lot of the feigned outrage "humor" I find more embarrassing than hilarious, like the individual is pulling for laughs. However, when Doug stuck to critique and told jokes based upon the actual film, he would often hit his mark. It was never perfect, but it obviously had enough viewers to create this "company" around and to pay his bills.

I'm curious because I'm confident that most of the "staff" (not sure what you'd call the other producers) on the site had to know what Doug was doing. Why didn't any of them say "hey, before you do this, you mind having something in place for us to watch so we can see what the fuck is going on." It's not a big deal if your, say, Film Brain and you're riding Doug's coattails, his audience coming for NC will still probably laugh at your shit. However, Demo Reel is terrible on every level. Uninspired, old jokes, bad acting, etc.

Good on Spoony for not associating with that Drivel. The only other three people I watch on that site are Todd, Nostalgia Chick, and Rap Critic. I hope they'll be able to keep doing their bits on youtube, cause that site can't last forever.

After they released their first "movie" it was crystal clear any content that deviated from the one man reviews would suck. I mean it is understandably tempting for them to reach out and do more serious content... but it is hard to do that as they are probably realizing by now.
 
Did the IrateGamer direct Demo Reel?

ouch.

The collapse of Channel Awesome is incredibly curious to me. Here you have a webiste with multiple producers that's built upon, primarily, one act. That act is take out to pasture and then replaced with something of zero quality. And this is done without any consideration to how confusing the site design already is.

A lot of the feigned outrage "humor" I find more embarrassing than hilarious, like the individual is pulling for laughs. However, when Doug stuck to critique and told jokes based upon the actual film, he would often hit his mark. It was never perfect, but it obviously had enough viewers to create this "company" around and to pay his bills.

I'm curious because I'm confident that most of the "staff" (not sure what you'd call the other producers) on the site had to know what Doug was doing. Why didn't any of them say "hey, before you do this, you mind having something in place for us to watch so we can see what the fuck is going on." It's not a big deal if your, say, Film Brain and you're riding Doug's coattails, his audience coming for NC will still probably laugh at your shit. However, Demo Reel is terrible on every level. Uninspired, old jokes, bad acting, etc.

Good on Spoony for not associating with that Drivel. The only other three people I watch on that site are Todd, Nostalgia Chick, and Rap Critic. I hope they'll be able to keep doing their bits on youtube, cause that site can't last forever.

Because the site is fucked up from the top. When Mike Ellis (one of the original founders) wanted the site to be about all the critics and not having Doug as the mighty everything the four Bhargav(left last year), Robert Walker and Mike Michaud just fired him.

Now Mike Michaud (the CEO now) just don't know what he is doing and keep the site under Doug complete control,Doug now wasted 200K of Channel Awesome money renting the studio for Demo Reel.he cancelled the anniversary meeting because of this too.

Now why the other critics/producers don't tell him how much Demo Reel sucks? Well they should I think (because if TGWTG go down..which is most likely to happen they will lose their money too) but it's clear that Doug Walker just insist that it's a good idea, in the vlog after the first demo reel episode he admit that he know the fans reaction but he still want to do this crap,just being stubborn for his "dream idea" he even went on shoving cameos for the latest episode thinking it's the way to fix stuff. (Demo reel got the 2nd lowest rating ever on the sire after Bart lets play video..should've got cancelled immediately after that)

also I think Spoony rejecting his offer should've been a big sign for him that a show based on Be Kind Rewind is really a stupid idea.
 
The collapse of Channel Awesome is incredibly curious to me. Here you have a webiste with multiple producers that's built upon, primarily, one act. That act is take out to pasture and then replaced with something of zero quality. And this is done without any consideration to how confusing the site design already is.

A lot of the feigned outrage "humor" I find more embarrassing than hilarious, like the individual is pulling for laughs. However, when Doug stuck to critique and told jokes based upon the actual film, he would often hit his mark. It was never perfect, but it obviously had enough viewers to create this "company" around and to pay his bills.

I'm curious because I'm confident that most of the "staff" (not sure what you'd call the other producers) on the site had to know what Doug was doing. Why didn't any of them say "hey, before you do this, you mind having something in place for us to watch so we can see what the fuck is going on." It's not a big deal if your, say, Film Brain and you're riding Doug's coattails, his audience coming for NC will still probably laugh at your shit. However, Demo Reel is terrible on every level. Uninspired, old jokes, bad acting, etc.

Good on Spoony for not associating with that Drivel. The only other three people I watch on that site are Todd, Nostalgia Chick, and Rap Critic. I hope they'll be able to keep doing their bits on youtube, cause that site can't last forever.

Yeah, it's really like this weird vacuum. I don't know it happened because viewership was going farther down and down every week, but eventually Doug must have made a conscious decision to do something completely different. The problem was that the different idea was completely awful and caused the site to hemmorage views on a daily basis.

It's funny because the genesis for most of these people are still fairly recent, bairly over a decade ago for most of the oldest ones like Spoony and Doug, but the stuff they did at the beginning is usually in stark contrast of what's there today. Over-acted, over-produced (or at least too much production that's bad), and just uninspired. I don't know if it's because ideas dry up after so long when it comes to this, or that money gives them too easy a life and no passion, but it's just interesting to see.

Now, I love Spoony's stuff. He's my favorite by far and I've been following his stuff for so long now, but I'm not going to say he conciously got away from it. I mean he might have, but I think he just got a lucky break that they fired him or forced him to leave. (no matter what the PR wants you to believe) In my eyes, since he has left his content has gotten way better and more frequent. So it was a win for everybody.

I for one only watch Spoony's stuff regularly (at least people associated with that site) so I'm not too heartbroken about seeing TGWTG starting to implode. I mean it's a shame that they'll lose their jobs, but I think the actual good content will still rise to the top from this. I think the people that are actually interesting, like Brad Jones (it's weird I don't care about the Cinema Snob, but I love all his other stuff) will still find success.

ouch.



Because the site is fucked up from the top. When Mike Ellis (one of the original founder) wanted the site to be about all the critics and not having Doug as the mighty everything the four Bhargav(left last year), Robert Walker and Mike Michaud just fired him.

Now Mike Michaud (the CEO now) just don't know what he is doing and keep the site under Doug complete control,Doug now wasted 200K of Channel Awesome money renting the studio for Demo Reel.( he cancelled the anniversary meeting because of this too.

Now why the other critics/producers don't tell him how suck is Demo Reel? Well they should I think (because if TGWTG go down..which is most likely to happen they will lose their money too) but it's clear that Doug Walker just insist that it's a good idea, in the vlog after the first demo reel episode he admit that he know the fans reaction but he still want to do this crap,just being stubborn for his "dream idea" he even went on shoving cameos for the latest episode thinking it's the way to fix stuff. (Demo reel got the 2nd lowest rating ever on the sire after Bart lets play video..should've got cancelled immediately after that)

also I think Spoony rejecting his offer should've been a big sign for him that a show based on Be Kind Rewind is really a stupid idea.

I totally agree except for the fact that I liked Be Kind, Rewind.
 
also I think Spoony rejecting his offer should've been a big sign for him that a show based on Be Kind Rewind is really a stupid idea.

That probably would have had more of an impact had Spoony not gone on his explosive Twitter meltdown at the same time. I guess it says something about Spoony's business acumen that even when he was going nuts, he saw this coming.

I'm not surprised the site is going down, but I am surprised at the degree to which it's being mismanaged. No quality control on an investment that large (not just in terms of money, but also in reputation and in long term company focus altogether) and then doubling down without addressing the primary flaw. It's a good thing Doug has all of the secondary critics to keep the site afloat while he has his midinternetreviewershelflife crisis, but it's not going to keep everyone happy forever.

Does anyone know if there's a reason Doug didn't just go into legitimate film reviewing ala Ebert? Surely he could make a decent run at that, right?
 
That probably would have had more of an impact had Spoony not gone on his explosive Twitter meltdown at the same time. I guess it says something about Spoony's business acumen that even when he was going nuts, he saw this coming.

I'm not surprised the site is going down, but I am surprised at the degree to which it's being mismanaged. No quality control on an investment that large (not just in terms of money, but also in reputation and in long term company focus altogether) and then doubling down without addressing the primary flaw. It's a good thing Doug has all of the secondary critics to keep the site afloat while he has his midinternetreviewershelflife crisis, but it's not going to keep everyone happy forever.

Does anyone know if there's a reason Doug didn't just go into legitimate film reviewing ala Ebert? Surely he could make a decent run at that, right?

The problem is no, and that career isn't...um, I want to say glamorous...basically it wouldn't likely draw the same amounts of people since it wouldn't be as comedy focused. I honestly don't think he could do it though, at least from what I've gathered watching his videos.

I'd probably only see Brad Jones doing that well. I'd love to see Spoony do that, but I'm realistic.
 
Does anyone know if there's a reason Doug didn't just go into legitimate film reviewing ala Ebert? Surely he could make a decent run at that, right?

Well..It sound like he is into "acting" more that reviewing(sadly..since he is actually very good at reviewing movies), when he left his original job it was because he wanted to be a comedian (comedian who copy celebrities.. not sure the proper word in English for that)

And it's clearly he don't have any passion left for NC or reviewing movies (unlike Linkara,Spoony and FB who lover their work and love games,comic or movies) from his NG cancellation vlog you can really tell from his words that he hated doing it and forced himself of doing NG in 2012 and apparently he think "acting" is where he belong.


The problem is no, and that career isn't...um, I want to say glamorous...basically it wouldn't likely draw the same amounts of people since it wouldn't be as comedy focused. I honestly don't think he could do it though, at least from what I've gathered watching his videos.

I'd probably only see Brad Jones doing that well. I'd love to see Spoony do that, but I'm realistic.

Brad's deep voice should be in every movie trailer ever...just saying. (his voice is like young Jack Nicholson)
 
That 200k for a studio thing is just.... fucking wow.

I know he wanted to feel super professional or whatever, but when 99% of the shit you've done has been either clips from other movies or green screen, you really don't need to make a jump into that type of territory. Surely, he has a spare bedroom. Surely, he realizes people don't watch his show for top notch production. Surely.

They really are seriously lucky that the other reviewers just haven't jumped ship. With how fucked the site design is, and the advent of Twitter/facebook/youtube, they could just do their shit solo, tell people where to find them, and cut out CA with minimal losses I could think.

Take Angry Joe for instance. His skits are shit and the fake rage sucks, but sometimes he makes okay points on games. Dude has a shit tonne of subscribers, plenty of views per youtube video, and his stuff goes up days late on tgwtg. I know he might get some revenue from the main page, but surely it's not more than his youtube stuff?

Side question, anybody know why he's not on Blistered Thumbs? I've only checked out the site a few times, but I never see him on there and remember back in the day he was really pushing to get it running.
 
Like Spoony, I think Joe started doing more and more of that dumb skit stuff when joining up with the Doug. I wonder if they thought they had to do more of it to "fit it" or Doug asked them all to do that for a sort of brand cohesion perhaps.
 
Side question, anybody know why he's not on Blistered Thumbs? I've only checked out the site a few times, but I never see him on there and remember back in the day he was really pushing to get it running.

Here is the thing,AJ was the head for Blistered Thumbs in 2010/2011, but because of Spoony's famous BETRAYAL scene at E3, BT stopped getting invites to games events/shows and games publishers just didn't want anything with BT because of Spoony behavior that time(for a while..not sure if it's still going tho) which affected AJ site too and many other guys related to BT(just listen to lord Kat long rant about it) so Joe left them and decided to focus on his site.
 
It may have been in a past Vlog or an old Tweet, but I believe he mentioned before that he liked FFXII.
Yeah, it was actually in the Vlog where he discusses FFXIII. He also praises the Persona games a little later in the same Vlog, so it's not like he's just a JRPG hater or anything. Also for anybody saying that he is too nit-picky you might want to check out this Vlog review for his more natural opinion (although this is only after having played 15 hours).

(Skip to 7:20 for the FFXIII stuff)
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/04/03/vlog-4-3-10/

Izick said:
I think the people that are actually interesting, like Brad Jones (it's weird I don't care about the Cinema Snob, but I love all his other stuff) will still find success.
I doubt Brad was getting much of anything out of Channel Awesome anyways. His fanbase seems to be pretty loyal to him and was formed independent of That Guy With The Glasses website.

Totobeni said:
Here is the thing,AJ was the head for Blistered Thumbs in 2010/2011, but because of Spoony's famous BETRAYAL scene at E3, BT stopped getting invites to games events/shows and games publishers just didn't want anything with BT because of Spoony behavior that time
Didn't Spoony and Angry Joe recently do an interview with the exact developers that he was screaming betrayal over? I seem to recall them joking about it all.
 
Didn't Spoony and Angry Joe recently do an interview with the exact developers that he was screaming betrayal over? I seem to recall them joking about it all.

yes it was this one.
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2012/06/09/e3-2012-aj-spoony-exclusive-xcom-2012-interview/

both went to E3 for the Angry Joe Show site not BT,it's because in 2011 BT didn't got anything.BT got the bad reputation I guess. lol

Demo Reel....you know what that is. It's the same kind of humor as Epic Movie to me.

pretty much and it's really sad.
 
I suggest listening to his commentary on that new movie they did. I remember him saying that he saw how this all was going to pan out, and that this wasn't the right direction for internet "personalities" or whatever; basically he thought if they go that way it wasn't going to last. I'm not sure if it was id, since he was laid off right at the time and he was trying to save face, but it is looking to be more and more true.

Yup. That movie sucks but Spoony's commentary offers interesting insight. For some reason I find the Channel Awesome debacle completely fascinating.
 
Yup. That movie sucks but Spoony's commentary offers interesting insight. For some reason I find the Channel Awesome debacle completely fascinating.

I think about 10% of their latest movie is watchable, and the other 90% is putrid trash. Seeing Rob as The Emperor is almost worth it in itself, though.
 
Even if they wont bring NC back I think having Dough+Rob just rant and joke about new and old movies would be interesting enough. They have talent for that and I find them being at least as funny as NC wjen they just impro without being in character.

I'm a fan of Doughs even if NC kinda went down after 2011 first halfish but Demo Reel is just not that funny and not for his current audience.
 
I think about 10% of their latest movie is watchable, and the other 90% is putrid trash. Seeing Rob as The Emperor is almost worth it in itself, though.

Talk about going a completely different direction:

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I remember that RedLetterMedia's site wasn't really all that popular. I know they got big with the Star Wars reviews but there was a definite lull period for a while after, and since they were on Youtube you wouldn't get a ton of people on the site.

Then you start having these Half-in-the-Bag episodes and held back on doing too many Plinkett reviews (when they could have cashed in on the name) and they start building up the site's fanbase more and more. It's like they went the exact opposite way of TGWTG.
 
You must be new. It's for humor similar to Nostalgia Critic.

you're wrong on that point mate, but i've been watching spoony vids for a long time now. his ffviiii/ffx/ffx-2 review was top notch and i was hoping his ffxiii review would be at least at that level but it was shockingly disappointing. i hated how spoony lampshades is incessant nitpicking by saying that's how his mind works, but i disagree completely. that isn't how he usually acts, at least when it comes to reviewing games / movies. his vlog on ffxiii was much, much, much better than this.

seriously reviewing ffxiii is like fighting a scrawny kid and spoony is somehow losing, i hope he gets it together soon.
 
i hated how spoony lampshades is incessant nitpicking by saying that's how his mind works, but i disagree completely. that isn't how he usually acts, at least when it comes to reviewing games / movies. his vlog on ffxiii was much, much, much better than this.
He only said, that this is how his mind works, while he watch/plays a game /movie for the first time. Not how his reviews work. He also calls out, that he is nitpicking too much and goes into a mindless and psychopath-like rumbeling (which is a lot like Red Letter Media's Mr. Pinklett). With all the strange flashs in the video and the unkown part of Sephiroth, it is properly part of an bigger theme besides the game. Everything could lead up to a big break down of his persona and him triying to explain the Sponny "Experiment". Hopefully it is not a way to end his show.
 
Then you start having these Half-in-the-Bag episodes and held back on doing too many Plinkett reviews (when they could have cashed in on the name) and they start building up the site's fanbase more and more. It's like they went the exact opposite way of TGWTG.

It's actually kind of interesting that you bring up RLM's situation, as I think it offers a pretty good comparison to the NC jumping into Demo Reel versus how RLM jumped to Half-in-the-Bag from Plinkett. When speaking strictly in terms of Demo Reel's issue, I think there was more of an overlap between Half-in-the-Bag and the Plinkett reviews as opposed to NC and Demo Reel. Yeah, Half-in-the-Bag is not as comedy oriented as the Plinkett style, but both still rely on detailed criticisms about film from people who definitely have shown that they know what they are talking about. Despite how Half-in-the-Bag had a pretty slow start, the transition was at least easier (and made things even better when the show's quality continued to increase). Now the fanbase can get their sufficient needs from Half-in-the-Bag just fine without Plinkett due to such commonality.

NC is essentially trying to do a switch from one polarizing form of comedy to another polarizing form of comedy. Regardless on the quality of Demo Reel itself (I tried to watch one of the episodes and it definitely was not for me, but with that said, I really don't want him to go back to shrieking NC either), NC most likely made an error in the sense that the entirety of Channel Awesome was built solely on the NC brand of humor.

Regardless of the entire Spoony meltdown that led to his dismissal, I do have to agree with him that the "Angry Internet Critic" model will probably not be that sustainable if it goes forward the way it has been now.
 
you're wrong on that point mate, but i've been watching spoony vids for a long time now. his ffviiii/ffx/ffx-2 review was top notch and i was hoping his ffxiii review would be at least at that level but it was shockingly disappointing. i hated how spoony lampshades is incessant nitpicking by saying that's how his mind works, but i disagree completely. that isn't how he usually acts, at least when it comes to reviewing games / movies. his vlog on ffxiii was much, much, much better than this.

seriously reviewing ffxiii is like fighting a scrawny kid and spoony is somehow losing, i hope he gets it together soon.

Don't worry, it'll probably improve as he gets more into the game. I notice he tends to vent the most in the early parts and then starts finding some good stuff later. Or maybe he does a better job with the writing later as well.
 
My prayers were heard.

Vlog 12-17-12 – The Hobbit, An Unexpected Journey
Miles+Spoony

And lol at Spoony first telling he knows the book pretty well and right after referencing ''escape from the elves''.

YES! How spoilery is it?

It's actually kind of interesting that you bring up RLM's situation, as I think it offers a pretty good comparison to the NC jumping into Demo Reel versus how RLM jumped to Half-in-the-Bag from Plinkett. When speaking strictly in terms of Demo Reel's issue, I think there was more of an overlap between Half-in-the-Bag and the Plinkett reviews as opposed to NC and Demo Reel. Yeah, Half-in-the-Bag is not as comedy oriented as the Plinkett style, but both still rely on detailed criticisms about film from people who definitely have shown that they know what they are talking about. Despite how Half-in-the-Bag had a pretty slow start, the transition was at least easier (and made things even better when the show's quality continued to increase). Now the fanbase can get their sufficient needs from Half-in-the-Bag just fine without Plinkett due to such commonality.

NC is essentially trying to do a switch from one polarizing form of comedy to another polarizing form of comedy. Regardless on the quality of Demo Reel itself (I tried to watch one of the episodes and it definitely was not for me, but with that said, I really don't want him to go back to shrieking NC either), NC most likely made an error in the sense that the entirety of Channel Awesome was built solely on the NC brand of humor.

Regardless of the entire Spoony meltdown that led to his dismissal, I do have to agree with him that the "Angry Internet Critic" model will probably not be that sustainable if it goes forward the way it has been now.

Yeah, I just think the RLM guys are more matured and understanding of all this stuff, so they knew what strengths they had, and they knew the weaknesses. They knew that the people want good, interesting information and criticism, and that a little acting is fine, but they always do it in the DUMBEST way possible, like they know it's dumb, and it's always the most hilarious stuff. In stark comparison you have Demo Reel, where it's all about production value and humor, and those are the two things Doug lacks the most, like most internet critics.
 
Anyone know what's up with Spoony not using the new introduction that Andrew Dickman made for him? Was it something to do with his breaking away from Channel Awesome (Dickman seems to be fairly strongly involved with creating title cards for the other reviewers), or what?
 
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