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The Top Five Best/Worst Remakes in Gaming History

Not only did Zero Mission improve upon the original in every way (better graphics, sound, control, level design) but I also loved how it went the extra mile to bridge the gap between Super Metroid by including the crashed ship. I also loved the Zero Suit, as it felt like a throwback to the Justin Bailey code from the original that allowed you to play as Samus without the armor. Metroid Zero Mission should be on anyone's short list of best remakes.
 
ZealousD said:
Oh god at that AskMen list. I didn't think it was possible to fail even farther than the OP, but somehow, they found a way.

Yeah, that was kind of our editorial mandate here: fail, but fail less hard than AskMen.com.
 
Honestly, the only people who really hate Twin Snakes are the hardcore MGS purists. It's not bad by any means, it's just too easy and a little cheesier than the original.
 
i guess castlevania chronicles managed to miss the worst section? the mario lost levels on mario all-stars? neither of these exist in this gaming history huh =/
 
Siyou said:
i guess castlevania chronicles managed to miss the worst section? the mario lost levels on mario all-stars? neither of these exist in this gaming history huh =/

Not controversial enough. Got to get them clicks!
 
LOL :lol

-Metroid Zero Mission = some of the best remake ever

-Super Mario Allstars doesn't figure in your "best" top

-Mario Kart Wii is not a remake
 
Why the fuck isnt the OP banned yet?

You are wrong, you have no soul, you are a sucker, blah, blah, blah...

Seriously, putting Zero Mission in the list of worsts remakes you the person I most hate right now, you and amy winehouse, congratulations!

FTWer said:
LOL at all the mad Nintendo fanboys pooping their pants over the fact people don't think some of their games are great.
Bye, bye junior!
 
FTWer said:
LOL at all the mad Nintendo fanboys pooping their pants over the fact people don't think some of their games are great.

That list is shit. Just look at it again, and think really hard about it.
 
FTWer said:
LOL at all the mad Nintendo fanboys pooping their pants over the fact people don't think some of their games are great.
So you finally got permajuniored, huh?

And no, this isn't about Nintendo. Don't bring system warz into a thread about nostalgia, please.
 
FTWer said:
LOL at all the mad Nintendo fanboys pooping their pants over the fact people don't think some of their games are great.

Wrong. I'm the farthest thing from a nintendo fanboy (my wii is gathering dust right now). But Metroid: Zero Mission was the only GBA game I have left. Why? Because it's awesome.
 
even if i don't really liked metroid zero mission as a remake of the first metroid (it was a good game on its own, through) there are many worst remakes out there (like tomb raider anniversary.. that totally destroyed one of the greatest game ever in order to create a monkey simulator)
 
Warren Ellis said:
even if i don't really liked metroid zero mission as a remake of the first metroid (it was a good game on its own, through) there are many worst remake out there (like tomb raider anniversary.. that totally destroyed one of the greatest game ever in order to create a monkey simulator)

Tomb Raider Anniversary isn't a bad remake either.
 
well, i personally hated every second of it. After this torture, i played the real tomb raider yet again, and it was great as the first time in 1996.
 
So I guess AskMen would think that the DVD release of a classic film was a remake of the classic. Fascinating.

As for the OP, MK Wii is not a remake. Even if it was, it wouldn't belong on the worst list.
 
BobTheFork said:
eh, kind of. The same way Evil Dead 2 is a remake of Evil dead 1, kind of.

metal gear solid takes place YEARS after Metal Gear 2. thats what we in the real world call a sequel...not a remake. i think u may be thinking of twin snakes vs metal gear solid?
 
Metroid Zero Mission was possibly the most fun few hours I had the whole of last gen.

The fact it referred to Super Metroid referring to the original Metroid was game-culture-eating-itself genius, it made you feel smart for knowing Metroid and Metroid 3 backward already. Design wise it's possibly the tightest game of its type ever made, rewarding speed runs, sequence breaking and exploring in equal deliberate measure.

It also looked stunning, sounded fantastic, had an awesome extra chapter (itself referring to a bonus in the original Metroid), tied a bunch of other Metroid story threads together (like the new varia suit and Metal Ridley), and has a knockout ending.

I daresay it's the best re-make ever made, with REmake being its only rival.
 
Guybrush Threepwood said:
"Is Metroid: Zero Mission a terrible game? By no means. On its own terms, it's rather good. But as a reconception of one of the greatest, most influential games ever made, it's a disaster, taking everything that made Metroid spooky and replacing it with a thick layer of corn. Metroid was heavily influenced by Alien. Remember the petrified extraterrestrial skeleton in Alien? What if that bastard had gotten up and started bombarding Sigourney Weaver with some hack's idea of ancient wisdom? Wouldn't that have pretty much thrown the movie's chilly austerity out the window? Like so many latter-day games, Zero Mission thinks comic-book jibber-jabber is cooler than eerie silence. This lack of subtlety is echoed in the gameplay itself, which, while it controls a lot better than Metroid, is chock-full of egregious hand-holding and advice-giving — pretty much the exact opposite of the original's sprawling openendedness. Metroid is practically Lovecraftian in the way it makes you feel tiny and alone in a vast and hostile universe. Don't look for that feeling in Zero Mission. Oh, and it also mangles the most immortal climax in videogame history — the truly unsettling slaughter of a shrieking brain in a jar, followed by a hair-raising escape sequence — by tacking on a (sigh) stealth section. — PS"

The original Metroid is damn near unplayable, its an abomination by modern day standards. I appreciate that it was an important moment in game design and broke boundaries, but as a playable experience today? Its horrific. Zero Mission makes the game actually playable, that in itself is enough to elevate it above the original.
 
All this discussion has me itching to play through Zero Mission again.


The minor points do not outweigh the fact that Zero Mission surpasses the original Metroid in all the major ways we evaluate games today.
 
Metroid Zero Mission under worst?

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More like one of the best remakes. The original Metroid is borderline unplayable these days. Zero Mission fixed that.


Also, the worst list needs more Conker: Live and Reloaded.
 
D.Lo said:
It also looked stunning, sounded fantastic, had an awesome extra chapter (itself referring to a bonus in the original Metroid), tied a bunch of other Metroid story threads together (like the new varia suit and Metal Ridley), and has a knockout ending.

MechaRidley:D It only contains the brain of Ridley in a computer placed in a robot that was never finished, Space Pirates and their mental backups :lol
Other than that your opinion is awesome!
 
This only reinforces the fact that all top 10/top 5 lists on the Internet are crap. STOP MAKING THEM.

And apparently the OP doesn't know about Justin Bailey and that the "stealth section" was based off of that.
 
Death_Born said:
This only reinforces the fact that all top 10/top 5 lists on the Internet are crap. STOP MAKING THEM.

And apparently the OP doesn't know about Justin Bailey and that the "stealth section" was based off of that.


That scene was really part of the Metroid saga story, but only was known with info, not in the original game. It explains also how the Chozo gived her the Varia Suit that we see at the start of Metroid prime, if not it wouldn't have any fucking sense.
Was really awesome that they added it in the remake, and tied it all up.

The only official not told through games (however there are little things in MZM about this) story is the attack of Ridley and the Space Pirates to the K2-L Earth Colony, were Samus was born and were they killed her parents. Afterwards Samus is trained by the Chozos, and MotherBrain and the Space Pirates that had a base on Zebes killed all the Chozos and destroyed Chozodia. Then Samus seeks vengeance in Metroid Zero mission.

And thats the only part that could work as a movie.
 
Warren Ellis said:
even if i don't really liked metroid zero mission as a remake of the first metroid (it was a good game on its own, through) there are many worst remakes out there (like tomb raider anniversary.. that totally destroyed one of the greatest game ever in order to create a monkey simulator)
I was going to make fun of the OP but then I found you.

NO. That's all.
 
SpacePirate Ridley said:
The only official not told through games (however there are little things in MZM about this) story is the attack of Ridley and the Space Pirates to the K2-L Earth Colony, were Samus was born and were they killed her parents. Afterwards Samus is trained by the Chozos, and MotherBrain and the Space Pirates that had a base on Zebes killed all the Chozos and destroyed Chozodia. Then Samus seeks vengeance in Metroid Zero mission.
http://www.onemanga.com/Metroid/

Totally badass. Chozo creating Mother Brain and the Metroids, Samus' first missions with the Galactic Police, the Pirate attack on K2-L and years later their attack on Zebes, Samus' parents, and lots of other cool shit.
 
Bizarro world is here. Metroid Zero Mission is not only a great game on its own terms, it is the model for how a remake or reimagining of a game should be done. Perhaps second only to the GC remake of Resident Evil...and we'll wait and see how Final Fantasy IV pans out.
 
So many games listed here aren't really even remakes. Just ports. I suppose real remakes are hard to come by. I love remakes. Playing Twin Snakes and Conker Live & Reloaded was a lot of fun. I played the original when they first came out and loved em. Then years later when it gets hard and harder to play them as they age I'm able to enjoy them all over again in a shiny new coat of paint. They have some problems. Problems that I feel are only a problem if you played the originals. But I look past those and take the good.
 
I'm kind of confused how saving, dozens of extra levels, a bigger inventory, the Cape Feather, and the Boomerang weren't enough to cancel out "Mario's voice".

It seems like for SMA4 and MZM, they're the "worst remakes ever" just because of incredibly minor, petty reasons.
 
oh shit i read the first page and i can conclude that list is pure and complete bullshit.

if it wasn't for MZM, i would never have played that chapter of the Metroid series. seriously, people need to take off the nostalgia goggles and see how the games are in reality. NES Metroid is an unplayable mess in today's world. it was fine in 1986 but not now. the remake is one of the best around since it completely face lifts the old game and gives it a completely new feel.

Mario Kart Wii a remake? holy shit i think hell froze and the apocalypse happened and i missed the news. by that logic MKSC and MKDS are remakes too. that exposes even more the ridiculousness of that statement.

what's next? Galaxy a remake of mario 64? Gears of War 2 a remake of the first? metroid prime 3 a remake of prime 1?

also, now ports are remakes also? SMA4 was a really good port of SMB3 considering the limits of the GBA.
 
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