havoc00
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The truth is ... Xbox ditched generations with the Xbox One.
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Bond007
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Sounds to me like the milked alot of people and made some moneyTotal revenue for the gaming division grew 8 percent for the latest financial quarter, which follows the tech company becoming a video games powerhouse by closing a $68.7 billion deal to acquire Activision Blizzard.
No games and failure to maintain good IPs--- Sounds to me like they made money but failed gamers. I could care less about how much money they made.
havoc00
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On paper they have a hell of a lineup coming out we will see if it delivers
SneakersSO
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Man, the takes from these guys is absolutely hysterical to me. This industry truly needs better commentators that understand the inner workings of this industry, rather than the folks using ancient framing to describe whats going on.
Before major things changed within MS (pre-Starfield), I know they still spoke of these machines in terms of generations. There are literal emails filed in court where Spencer himself describes these machines in terms of generations. Why folks like Jez go out of their way to create narratives to try and hand wave concerns is beyond me. The entire division would've been significantly better if MS/Xbox enthusiasts were willing to hold Xbox's feet to the fire.
Before major things changed within MS (pre-Starfield), I know they still spoke of these machines in terms of generations. There are literal emails filed in court where Spencer himself describes these machines in terms of generations. Why folks like Jez go out of their way to create narratives to try and hand wave concerns is beyond me. The entire division would've been significantly better if MS/Xbox enthusiasts were willing to hold Xbox's feet to the fire.
Crayon
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LiquidJensen
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The cope is strong with this one
I dont even know if its worth it to see to how he came to this conclusion.
Ok, a read a lil more...."pro or next gen consoles are just basically branding"
Well, yeah. Usually its used to define what type of console it should be seen as.
Or will the new narrative be the PS5 Pro is basically a next gen console....if MS launches their next gen early...
Or maybe the next gen Xbox should be seen as a Pro if things start to go sideways....
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SneakersSO
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They already are. But if you mean them publishing on PS/Nintendo, stay tuned!
Varteras
Gold Member
Yeah. Definitely what I meant. I saw your posts yesterday. Between comments made by Spencer and Stuart, As Dusk Falls going to PS, Blade not having any announced platforms or services, and even people like Shinobi telling us to expect more Xbox games on PS, it would take complete denial to refuse to see the trend here. Xbox not selling well at all doesn't help.
Snowdonhoffen
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Do you think they'll release something in the coming months?
HeisenbergFX4
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What he should have led with was his follow up Tweet
Which I get
Which I get
FUBARx89
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Jez is a grade A weapon. It must be awful for him living in England, seeing the xbox brand crator sales wise and having to find some spin/told the talking points by MS and believing it as fact.
Wonder if we can get him sectioned for holding such delusions. Anyone wanna ring up the NHS?
Wonder if we can get him sectioned for holding such delusions. Anyone wanna ring up the NHS?
semiconscious
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jez, you say?! then it must be true!...
So basically, ps users expecting the 5 pro to keep them secure for another 4 years, that's Sonys game, not ms game unfortunately, it's competition, either companies wanna make the other irrelevant, denying the competition ever existed is hypocrisy cause without it there won't be choices available to decide.
DeepEnigma
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What he should have led with was his follow up Tweet
Which I get
It's all mental gymnastics to try and control the Sony having a Pro model and them not until a while later, narrative.
MS needs to worry about not being able to sell what they have now, even with fire sale clearance-like discounts.
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HeisenbergFX4
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I take it as what Jez was saying was what's it matter what the next Xbox is called no matter if its Xbox 2 or Xbox Series X Pro
Personally this is one time I don't see Jez taking any shots at PS
SneakersSO
Member
Who is 'they'?
S0ULZB0URNE
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These people make Xbox look so bad.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Most have been saying this since day 1 of this gen, but, branding still matter to the average mass consumer. That separation of "gen" still drives people to upgrade. If you muddy it where "it's the same as Xbox Series," they will be in a world of hurt more than they already are on the platform front.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The naming of Xbox skus hurt more than what most people think
I mean how many PS5 games only were there but the average person walking into Best Buy/Walmart knew PS5 > PS4
Average guy looks at multiple skus Xbox had at launch with getting rid of old models and just wonder how many had to scratch their heads and wonder what was what
DeepEnigma
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Naming convention still matters to the average consumer. The perception.
i.e. iPhone, Samsung Galaxy, etc., etc.. Nothing more amazing and revolutionary about each iteration, they all still play and run the old stuff, but people clearly understand a "new generation" device due to clear and easy to understand branding/message.
HeisenbergFX4
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This info has been floating around for a while now on what Jez commented on about timing on the next Xbox and so far not a single one of these Xbox "leakers" have said its not happening
DeepEnigma
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I wonder what they'll call it?
Xbox Series Same But Different But Still The Same X™
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Snowdonhoffen
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Xbox publishing some games on PS/Nintendo in the coming months.
Sorry if I didn't explain myself.
Dr. Wilkinson
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This is already known. Games as a service never stop being played so the digital libraries need to carry over from console to console seamlessly. Everyone is already aware that hard console breaks with a new generation are no longer a thing.
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HeisenbergFX4
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When I first heard about it they were calling it Xbox 2 which was curious because they could have just said the next Xbox
I bet they do somehow try to incorporate the Series moniker though as one big "family"
But answering question directly I have no idea
Btw internally Xbox used the term "marching orders" to their "armies"
I kid you not
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Well yeah I thought this was well known
They been planning this smartphone model for years .
It was supposed to create a neverending user base that would scale & grow with every new Xbox but it's not really working as planned because Nintendo & PlayStation getting a bigger user base with the old model of doing things.
They been planning this smartphone model for years .
It was supposed to create a neverending user base that would scale & grow with every new Xbox but it's not really working as planned because Nintendo & PlayStation getting a bigger user base with the old model of doing things.
havoc00
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Awaiting orders sirWhen I first heard about it they were calling it Xbox 2 which was curious because they could have just said the next Xbox
I bet they do somehow try to incorporate the Series moniker though as one big "family"
But answering question directly I have no idea
Btw internally Xbox used the term "marching orders" to their "armies"
I kid you not
SneakersSO
Member
Not sure on exact time tables. I am expecting on of significance to release next year, minimum. I'm sure theres more in the pipe for 24 though.
Shakka43
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A figment of our imagination.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Guy can barely string two ideas together.
Crayon
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I love this and I believe it but is there anywhere I can read it for myself?
And every time they give these marching orders these people make fools of themselves on the Internet using the same words as the other fools as if people can't see that they was all told to say this stuff lol.When I first heard about it they were calling it Xbox 2 which was curious because they could have just said the next Xbox
I bet they do somehow try to incorporate the Series moniker though as one big "family"
But answering question directly I have no idea
Btw internally Xbox used the term "marching orders" to their "armies"
I kid you not
cinnamonandgravy
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AngelMuffin
Member
Ah, that’s what they meant by “One”, One generation.
Dick Jones
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This cunt is lucky Redfall released this year, otherwise that shit video would have been the worst Xbox related release in 2023.
That video should have a warning label. Utter wank.