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The unpopular opinions thread: MOVIE EDITION

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Star Wars prequels are infinitely better than the original ones. The original ones were just so boring and the prequels had awesome CGI and fun fight scenes.
 
I Push Fat Kids said:
Oh, District 9 falls apart when the writing takes a nosedive after the first 40 minutes or so.
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Yep.

I have written posts in the past on how the story for District 9 completely falls apart and doesn't adhere to it's own logic.

I kept "waking up" watching that film.

Had a TON of plot holes/devices.
 
Whoompthereitis said:
In general, movies are kind of lame. I used to watch a lot of 'em, but nowadays I don't give a shit. TV is way better (as long as you watch it on DVD), video games are more immersive, and there are better ways to spend my time.

People seem to hold movies up as being the be-all form of entertainment, but most of 'em are pretty boring. The whole 80 minute to 2 hour format isn't really the ideal way to tell a story.
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There's an ideal way to tell stories now?

I'm not surprised to hear unpopular/crazy opinions (that is the point of the thread) but to hear that format is inherently troubled? That surprised even me.

I guess I need to roll out an unpopular opinion: Ghost In The Shell Innocence is a good movie.
 
Whoompthereitis said:
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think films are the peak of visual artistry. And how can you say TV is not better art than film? It's the same thing, just different format. If I were to buy a box set DVD of a high budget TV show shot on film, is that really any different than a movie, art wise?

As far as the peak of visual artistry, I'd probably look towards video games. I think the immersion/interactivity goes a long way towards bringing me into the beautiful worlds created on screen. Avatar may look better than whatever the latest video game does, but I won't appreciate the visuals as much in a movie. I want to take my time, explore.

Just a personal thing.

And calling films intellectual by default is ridiculous. They're no more or less intellectual than anything else. It's a medium that is hugely popular, so therefore there are people being intellectual within it. But it's not the ideal medium to express intellect. Books still rule the roost in that regard.
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Well poetry is the MOST intellectual art if we're going to start playing that card, but I think that books and film are about equal as far as intellect required for greatness goes; with film, you have to do all of the same things that you do in a book but with a highly compressed amount of time. Some, like Woody Allen and Ingmar Bergman, took to the challenge and bested it.

Anyway, the reason that I would put film over television is that it does more with less. For one, films almost universally have better cinematography, and that plays an extremely important part in visual storytelling in every medium; I can always tell that TV is shot on a rather utilitarian schedule with little regard for the visual aspect. Beyond that, though, I simply think that the best of film is far greater than the best of television. There's probably room for debate, but I think that TV's relative lack of maturity compared to film (it being a much more recent development in the arts) shows.

And I didn't mean that film was inherently intellectual, merely that I think intellectualism tends to find a more comfortable home in the filmic medium than in television or video games.
 
Akuun said:
Avatar was awful as a movie but very pretty. In that sense, it feels more like a 3d amusement park ride than anything.
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I liked Avatar when i first saw it, but on balance it is an awful movie.
 
James Woods said:
The Aviator deserved every Oscar it's year of release and is Scorcese's best film.
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You should get around to watching After Hours.
 
Jar-Jar is actually the best / most well-written character in The Phantom Menace.

Shakespeare in Love is fantastic and deserves its Oscar (I'm a huge Tom Stoppard nut)

The Apple is the greatest story ever told.

Keaton > Chaplin.
 
James Woods said:
This is my opinion and less insane than half the shit in this thread. The music thread had a good bit of validity to counterbalance the stupid. This one doesn't.
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Honestly, the notion that The Aviator is Scorsese's best IS pretty insane, probably in the top 10% in this thread for me.
 
Willy105 said:
Not to derail the thread to a serious conversation, but how come? I keep hearing this, but I never understand it. I usually never like the movies that win Best Picture, with a couple of exceptions, but I actually thought Crash was very good.
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For a movie so focused on its characters, they were really bad. Besides being cliché and shallow, many of their actions didn't make much sense and existed only for the movie's purpose, making them completely unbelievable. Any change in their behaviour was a complete 180º turn, with nothing in between. The movie's pretentiousness and preachy tone also put me off, but that's just me. If a movie is trying to teach/show something, don't force feed it to me every couple minutes.

Some character "collisions" were good though. But not "Best picture" good.
 
Only the second Nolan Batman is good, and that's purely because of the villain.

Batman as a character sucks, his villains are the only reason to like the character, and for Begins they chose Ra's Al Ghul one of his least interesting. At least Scarecrow was in it, though badly used.
 
Willy105 said:
Not to derail the thread to a serious conversation, but how come? I keep hearing this, but I never understand it. I usually never like the movies that win Best Picture, with a couple of exceptions, but I actually thought Crash was very good.
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The situations that the characters ended up in were all just so predictable. The racial prejudices portrayed on screen were as cliche as it gets. Just a really really bad movie. Was I supposed to learn some lesson from this movie? The only lesson I learned from it is that Paul Haggis has no idea how real people behave and has no clue how to portray a movie about racism with any kind of subtlety. It was like doing brain surgery with a claw hammer.
 
I have to also say Daniel Craig is the worst casted Bond ever. I like the guy but he aint Bond. He has no personality and lacks the suave of the Bond character. His Bond movies can be any other generic action movie and nobody would think twice that it was a Bond movie.
 
Owen Wilson is horribly underrated (especially as a writer - he's pretty much unsung) I don't think it's coincidence that the best Wes Anderson films are co-wrote with Wilson (Bottle Rocket, The Royal Tenenbaums, Rushmore)
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
-Hitchcock was overrated as a filmmaker.
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Really?

Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
-Wes Anderson is an immature artist; he has a great style and is entertaining enough, but the notion that he's some great visionary astounds me. He relies far too heavily on quirk in place of real characterization and storytelling.
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I disagree, but I can accept that people have this opinion.

Thunder Monkey said:
Only the second Nolan Batman is good, and that's purely because of the villain.

Batman as a character sucks, his villains are the only reason to like the character, and for Begins they chose Ra's Al Ghul one of his least interesting. At least Scarecrow was in it, though badly used.
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I agree with this.
 
Temple of Doom is the most enjoyable Indiana Jones movie. It has the best action set pieces in the series and the finale is thrilling.
 
I'm consider myself a film connoisseur, and as such I have a superior taste in movies than most of Gaf. I've been a critic of films for many years now, and have vast knowledge of the ins and outs of the film industry. Frankly, many of the opinions posted in this thread are laughable, and I only wish you understood movies as well as I do. Here are some of my opinions (which are more like objective observations):

1. Pixar is incredibly overrated. Pound for pound, Dreamworks Animation has a better record than Pixar.

2. Avatar isn't just a bad movie, it was objectively the worst movie of 2009. I'm also including all the foreign films I watched over the past year, as well as Hollywood's normal output.

3. Pulp Fiction was hilariously miscast.

4. The Dark Knight is a terrible, terrible movie. Everything about it is embarrassing, as are its fans, who are blights on the film industry.

5. Speed Racer is far and away the best film this decade. Everything about it is stunning. People who dislike it just don't understand its message.

Some of you may disagree with me, but I doubt anyone here is as knowledgeable of movies as I am or has seen even a fraction of the films that I have. :lol
 
GuitarAtomik said:
Terminator Salvation has probably the best action scenes out of all of the Terminator movies.
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I hold the same opinion.

The first two were better movies (I'm not really a fan of any of them), but Salvation has better action scenes.
EliCash said:
I agree with this.
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Seriously.

A Psychological thriller featuring Scarecrow would have been so much better. A mob movie around Two-Face. The movie we got with Joker. And a catch the thief kind of thing with Catwoman. They should have used each to give us an introduction to the next movies villain, but never more then that. No fighting two villains at once.

I did love TDK, but there was so many missteps even in that one.
 
Jack Scofield said:
I'm consider myself a film connoisseur, and as such I have a superior taste in movies than most of Gaf. I've been a critic of films for many years now, and have vast knowledge of the ins and outs of the film industry. Frankly, many of the opinions posted in this thread are laughable, and I only wish you understood movies as well as I do. Here are some of my opinions (which are more like objective observations):

1. Pixar is incredibly overrated. Pound for pound, Dreamworks Animation has a better record than Pixar.

2. Avatar isn't just a bad movie, it was objectively the worst movie of 2009. I'm also including all the foreign films I watched over the past year, as well as Hollywood's normal output.

3. Pulp Fiction was hilariously miscast.

4. The Dark Knight is a terrible, terrible movie. Everything about it is embarrassing, as are its fans, who are blights on the film industry.

5. Speed Racer is far and away the best film this decade. Everything about it is stunning. People who dislike it just don't understand its message.

Some of you may disagree with me, but I doubt anyone here is as knowledgeable of movies as I am or has seen even a fraction of the films that I have. :lol
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How are we even friends?
 
Children of Men is a boring movie. My biggest problem with it is that they never really explained why the people they were trying to get the baby to would be any better than the government. Sure they turned into a police state, but when it's the end of the world I'd like to see anybody try to keep order without a bunch of riots. A government with international connections and more funds would be much better equipped at figuring the problem out than a group of scientists on a boat.
 
EL Beefo said:
Children of Men is a boring movie. My biggest problem with it is that they never really explained why the people they were trying to get the baby to would be any better than the government. Sure they turned into a police state, but when it's the end of the world I'd like to see anybody try to keep order without a bunch of riots. A government with international connections and more funds would be much better equipped at figuring the problem out than a group of scientists on a boat.
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Uh....
 
Jack Scofield said:
I'm consider myself a film connoisseur, and as such I have a superior taste in movies than most of Gaf. I've been a critic of films for many years now, and have vast knowledge of the ins and outs of the film industry. Frankly, many of the opinions posted in this thread are laughable, and I only wish you understood movies as well as I do. Here are some of my opinions (which are more like objective observations):

1. Pixar is incredibly overrated. Pound for pound, Dreamworks Animation has a better record than Pixar.

2. Avatar isn't just a bad movie, it was objectively the worst movie of 2009. I'm also including all the foreign films I watched over the past year, as well as Hollywood's normal output.

3. Pulp Fiction was hilariously miscast.

4. The Dark Knight is a terrible, terrible movie. Everything about it is embarrassing, as are its fans, who are blights on the film industry.

5. Speed Racer is far and away the best film this decade. Everything about it is stunning. People who dislike it just don't understand its message.

Some of you may disagree with me, but I doubt anyone here is as knowledgeable of movies as I am or has seen even a fraction of the films that I have. :lol
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Someone really needs to get this man AniHawk's tag.
 
The Pixar/Dreamworks movies have such awful character design and art. All the movies look so generic that only Toy Story stands out because it was the first one. I just hate the way the characters look. 2D hand drawn movies like Lion King and Aladdan are far superior.
 
corkscrewblow said:
Memento is Nolan's best movie. Dark Knight is his worst (that I've seen)
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I don't know about worst.

Begins is far worse then TDK. TDK at least has an awesome version of the Joker and a damn good Two-Face.
 
Jack Scofield said:
I'm consider myself a film connoisseur, and as such I have a superior taste in movies than most of Gaf. I've been a critic of films for many years now, and have vast knowledge of the ins and outs of the film industry. Frankly, many of the opinions posted in this thread are laughable, and I only wish you understood movies as well as I do. Here are some of my opinions (which are more like objective observations):

1. Pixar is incredibly overrated. Pound for pound, Dreamworks Animation has a better record than Pixar.

2. Avatar isn't just a bad movie, it was objectively the worst movie of 2009. I'm also including all the foreign films I watched over the past year, as well as Hollywood's normal output.

3. Pulp Fiction was hilariously miscast.

4. The Dark Knight is a terrible, terrible movie. Everything about it is embarrassing, as are its fans, who are blights on the film industry.

5. Speed Racer is far and away the best film this decade. Everything about it is stunning. People who dislike it just don't understand its message.

Some of you may disagree with me, but I doubt anyone here is as knowledgeable of movies as I am or has seen even a fraction of the films that I have. :lol
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Great troll.

Edit: Not that the gist of your opinions are wrong (Pixar IS overrated, Avatar is not very good, TDK is also overrated, Speed Racer is actually very good), but the manner of expression is rather hilarious.
 
Jack Scofield said:
I'm consider myself a film connoisseur, and as such I have a superior taste in movies than most of Gaf. I've been a critic of films for many years now, and have vast knowledge of the ins and outs of the film industry. Frankly, many of the opinions posted in this thread are laughable, and I only wish you understood movies as well as I do. Here are some of my opinions (which are more like objective observations):

1. Pixar is incredibly overrated. Pound for pound, Dreamworks Animation has a better record than Pixar.

2. Avatar isn't just a bad movie, it was objectively the worst movie of 2009. I'm also including all the foreign films I watched over the past year, as well as Hollywood's normal output.

3. Pulp Fiction was hilariously miscast.

4. The Dark Knight is a terrible, terrible movie. Everything about it is embarrassing, as are its fans, who are blights on the film industry.

5. Speed Racer is far and away the best film this decade. Everything about it is stunning. People who dislike it just don't understand its message.

Some of you may disagree with me, but I doubt anyone here is as knowledgeable of movies as I am or has seen even a fraction of the films that I have. :lol
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I'm beginning to notice a trend with your posts.
 
state-of-the-art said:
Tim Burton movies suck and only douchey hipsters like them.

That's right, deal with it.
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James and the Giant Peach, The Nightmare before Christmas, Beetlejuice, and Edward Scizzorhands aren't bad films... the rest I can live without.
 
Thunder Monkey said:
I don't know about worst.

Begins is far worse then TDK. TDK at least has an awesome version of the Joker and a damn good Two-Face.
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Begins is much better. TDK is three hours of boring.
 
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