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[Arrowgigantic]

You're the atheist's version of Mike Seaver. Congrats.

Do you mean Kirk Cameron? I can understand that as a Christian duped by Loki that you would have a natural preference for the fictional character.

 

[linkboy]

Spoiler

But that's Gabriel

 

[Earthstrike]

Yes. Loki is also the origin of miracles. By creating situations unexplainable by man, he galvanizes the views of people who already believe in religions.

 

[Platy]

Lets imagine for a second that it is cientificaly proved that loki really wrote both the bible and qu'ran

So, it isn't our duty as mortals to believe in what he wanted us to believe and kill each other as a higher being wants ?

Aren't we in the obligation of believing what he want us to believe even if it contradicts what we know ?

To believe in what is true and proved and not in what he wants us to believe make us atheists, even if it is proved that there is a god ?

[/mindfuck]

 

[Pandaman]

You're the atheist's version of Mike Seaver. Congrats.

atheists dont believe in loki.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

The only Norse literature that provides the information we know about Norse paganism was made after the Christianization. One could say the devil had a hand in producing the literature, posessing Snorri Sturluson's mind among others, thus trying to fool people into thinking that Loki created the religion in the distant future.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

Lets imagine for a second that it is cientificaly proved that loki really wrote both the bible and qu'ran

So, it isn't our duty as mortals to believe in what he wanted us to believe and kill each other as a higher being wants ?

Yikes, that sounds really defeatist.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

The only Norse literature that provides the information we know about Norse paganism was made after the Christianization.

Your hypothesis is that Norse mythology didn't exist before the Norse were introduced to Christianity?

 

[SpartanAGM]

It cannot be disproven and it makes me feel good so it must be true!

Just like aliens.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Your hypothesis is that Norse mythology didn't exist before the Norse were introduced to Christianity?

The information you're reading to learn about Loki and how he was a troll is sourced from litature written after the Christianization. How can you know he really was a troll? How can you know that that information wasn't falsified by a man possessed by the devil?

Edit:

Also, the 5th/6th dynasty Egyptian Gods predate the Nordic Bronze Age by a few thousand years which have little no evidence of nordic gods. An Egyptian god could have invented all succeeding religions.

Moreover, if you claim Loki could have existed before the Christian God and didn't make it known to man then there could be an unknown god that has invited every religion known to man.

 

[polyh3dron]

Loki trolled humanity huh.. Makes sense

 

[WrenchNinja]

Brahman is the best deity anyway.

Human-like gods are so cliche.

Lol Brahman just mad that more people like my pal Vishnu.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

LOL. Odin, Vili, and Vé made Earth from the body of Ymir. That's how the story goes.

" A"World, not Cosmos... The Cosmos was populated by all sorts of beings and worlds NOT "created" with the the death of Ymir, sorry.

In the mythos that exists before the Norse mortals met with Christianity, you mean.

No such material exists, sorry. The entirety of the existent mythos is post-Christian.

Post-Christian, if Loki's plan to "defeat" Odin was to get people to stop worshiping him, then he has succeeded.

Loki did not defeat or kill Odin in any fucking context.

Says the guy who thinks the mythology is that Odin didn't make the Earth.

Should have been more specific the Norse gods did not create the Cosmos...sorry I assumed you had a little bit of knowledge I wasn't aware I had to use training wheels.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

The information you're reading to learn about Loki and how he was a troll is sourced from litature written after the Christianization. How can you know he really was a troll? How can you know that that information wasn't falsified by a man possessed by the devil?

Well, that doesn't make sense. First of all, while the Norse did not write their myths, they would certainly be able to read the transcription of the myth and say "that's not how the story goes". Second, Satan has no motivation to invent another trickster god that everybody was just going to end up hearing about and only saying "cool story, broheim". Unless Satan wanted to see what Jack Kirby would do to the story, I guess. On the other hand, Loki inventing Satan et al. has had great benefit for him. Thus it is the plausible explanation for our world today, while yours isn't.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

Sorry should have been more specific the Norse gods did not create the Cosmos

And the Abrahamic God did not create the void. The Norse gods were beings of immense creation power, aka gods. You have no point.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

And the Abrahamic God did not create the void. The Norse gods were beings of immense creation power, aka gods. You have no point.

Now your just gibbering nonsense. A void is a lack of something not "a thing." You are just embarrassing yourself at this point. God is a cosmos creator, Norse pantheons are not. I recommend you read the mythologies you feel inclined to use beyond wikipedia it will prevent such embarrassment in the future.

 

[hamchan]

About as believable as any religious text.

Yep. I quite like this theory. If Loki is indeed real fabricating other religions is exactly what he would do.

 

[El Sloth]

I'd play this game.

Actually, sounds like an alternate universe sequel to Xenogears. Only with less giant robots.

Buy Odin's beer!

The real reason Loki rebels against his father.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Well, that doesn't make sense. First of all, while the Norse did not write their myths, they would certainly be able to read the transcription of the myth and say "that's not how the story goes". Second, Satan has no motivation to invent another trickster god that everybody was just going to end up hearing about and only saying "cool story, broheim". Unless Satan wanted to see what Jack Kirby would do to the story, I guess. On the other hand, Loki inventing Satan et al. has had great benefit for him. Thus it is the plausible explanation for our world today, while yours isn't.

Why would they care after the christianization? They wouldn't believe it anymore anyway. It could be nordic/Loki fanficiton. The devil likes to make people doubt God in any way he can. He does/tries to do it in small and large ways with everyone. The most famous plant for future societies to discover is dinosaur bones by some belief. Right now you're spreading this theory to a few hundred atheists and agnostics that might choose to like it and reinforce their beliefs.

 

[HK-47]

"Hermes the Greek god invented the rest of the world's religions to create chaos and take away power from Zeus."

There, I just replaced Loki, with as much credibility and evidence as the OP. I get the point he's trying to make with an argument devoid of reason (I suppose) but it's an odd place to do it. Choose your battles, that's all I'm saying.

No one is more of an evil dick than Loki. It just couldnt be anyone else.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

God is a cosmos creator, Norse pantheons are not.

I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by making that distinction. Whether the god comes from nothing and poops out the cosmos or the cosmos comes from nothing and "hatches" gods is relevant only in your imagination.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

Why would they care after the christianization?

What if I told you that Han shot first?

 

[iirate]

Old.

 

[Brobzoid]

the tea pot in space is far more eloquent. shitbin.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by making that distinction.

Here let me help.


I am referring to your internally inconsistent and inane OP

 

[Laughing Banana]

Well, this is a rather unfunny troll thread.

 

[Zod the Bear]

Needs more of the Dagda.

 

[HK-47]

the tea pot in space is far more eloquent. shitbin.

That teapot is actually there. It's Loki's.

 

[Brobzoid]

That teapot is actually there. It's Loki's.

u r wrong and I'm going to write paragraph upon paragraph to prove it!

brb collecting reference material

 

[Earthstrike]

Now your just gibbering nonsense. A void is a lack of something not "a thing." You are just embarrassing yourself at this point. God is a cosmos creator, Norse pantheons are not. I recommend you read the mythologies you feel inclined to use beyond wikipedia it will prevent such embarrassment in the future.

Loki has simply found a way to deceive you into believing that. You have to have faith, otherwise how will you ever break out of your deceptions?

 

[Earthstrike]

Why would they care after the christianization? They wouldn't believe it anymore anyway. It could be nordic/Loki fanficiton. The devil likes to make people doubt God in any way he can. He does/tries to do it in small and large ways with everyone. The most famous plant for future societies to discover is dinosaur bones by some belief. Right now you're spreading this theory to a few hundred atheists and agnostics that might choose to like it and reinforce their beliefs.

How do you know it happened after the christianization? This is all simply part of loki's deception.

 

[Nocebo]

" A"World, not Cosmos... The Cosmos was populated by all sorts of beings and worlds NOT "created" with the the death of Ymir, sorry.

Why would being able to create a cosmos make one god more real than the other? Of course loki would write a fictional character with seemingly more power than any other god because it's human nature to follow the strong.

Being a trickster god you would have to have a deep understanding of human psychology. It all makes perfect sense.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

Here let me help.


I am referring to your internally inconsistent and inane OP

Assuming that a god that creates the cosmos is more powerful than a god created by the cosmos, which is a weird and very arbitrary assumption, any inconsistency in my argument is wholly related to your insistence that the Abrahamic God exists and is not a fabrication by Loki. It is externally inconsistent and that externality is YOU.

 

[Slavik81]

Now your just gibbering nonsense. A void is a lack of something not "a thing." You are just embarrassing yourself at this point. God is a cosmos creator, Norse pantheons are not. I recommend you read the mythologies you feel inclined to use beyond wikipedia it will prevent such embarrassment in the future.

There's a difference between a place that has nothing in it and a place that doesn't exist. By causing a place with nothing in it to begin existing, you'd be creating a void.

 

[GhaleonQ]

If there is a god of satire, you all have murdered him and are ravaging his corpse.

 

[rdrr gnr]

This is offensive to Pastafarians everywhere. I'm offended.

 

[Scrow]

This is the evidence I've compiled that Loki was behind the Bible and Qu'ran-- that he completely fabricated the Abrahamic God.

Evidence is as follows:

1. Loki invented God to lure people away from following the true father, Odin. To weaken him.

Evidence: Hardly anybody worships Odin now, and it's because of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. These religions have very easy means of ensuring yourself eternal life in heaven, making them preposterously attractive to all kinds of people, including people with egocentric/sociopathic mindsets who wouldn't normally consider themselves as worthy of a god's favor. Thus Abrahamic religions are just as they would be if they were designed in a too-good-to-be-true fashion by a trickster.

2. Loki is a god of mischief and likes to trick people into fighting each other.

Evidence: the devotees of the Abrahamic religions he invented are currently at war with each other, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. Followers also routinely persecute women and minorities.

3. Loki likes to antagonize humans, so he invented a God who supposedly cares for people to give them false hope and make them despair when God doesn't come to save them.

Evidence: Humans have no divine protection from disasters, disease, famine, you name it.

Have you observed anything else that fits with this hypothesis?

golden work OP.

norse mythology and this post have just as much credibility as any other religion that is actively practiced now.

that's really sad.

come on humanity. you can do so much better than believing in fairy tales. i like stories as much as anyone else, but actually BELIEVING they're true? wasted potential.

 

[Dragon]

You shouldn't base your entire existence on a comic book movie involving Natalie Portman.

 

[Rorschach]

Marvel's marketing has hit a new low.

 

[neorej]

Marvel's marketing has hit a new low.

Just wait untill Hercules and Thanos come into the equation

 

[Scrow]

You shouldn't base your entire existence on fiction.

i think that's a better all-encompassing way of saying the same thing.

 

[Loki]

Loki wrote the Bible and Qu'Ran

I've been known to write some (extremely) long posts, but I can't take credit for all that.

 

[rdrr gnr]

I've been known to write some (extremely) long posts, but I can't take credit for all that.

/thread

 

[Nocebo]

I've been known to write some (extremely) long posts, but I can't take credit for all that.

I'm sure you would like us to believe that.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Why would being able to create a cosmos make one god more real than the other?

It wouldn't but it sure as fuck is relevant when discussing the mythos of said god(s).

Abrahamic God exists and is not a fabrication by Loki. It is externally inconsistent and that externality is YOU.

Wut?! I understand you are tap dancing around in an attempt for profundity but you really lack the cognitive tools for wit. You should stop trying so hard. See your OP is inane, it makes no sense. Its some emo teens attempt to demonstrate metaphysical/supernatural stories are equally valid because neither can be refuted or substantiation empirically.

Anyone with an IQ above 80 is already aware of this which is why your flailing around is just dumb. This also ignores your total ignorance of the cosmologies you are using in your examples further enhancing your "unique" argumentation.

Hai gaiz snowman beat up santa santa claus! Proves me WRONG! Is an argument on par with this one.

 

[Earthstrike]

If there is a god of satire, you all have murdered him and are ravaging his corpse.

That's just what Loki wants you to believe.

 

[Aske]

I approve of this thread.

 

[thetechkid]

I've been known to write some (extremely) long posts, but I can't take credit for all that.

How come you tied a blackwing deck?

 

[BlueTsunami]

In celebration of this thread and its contint I submet we change the phrase "Deus ex machina" to "Loki ex machina"

 

[Monocle]

It wouldn't but it sure as fuck is relevant when discussing the mythos of said god(s).



Wut?! I understand you are tap dancing around in an attempt for profundity but you really lack the cognitive tools for wit. You should stop trying so hard. See your OP is inane, it makes no sense. Its some emo teens attempt to demonstrate metaphysical/supernatural stories are equally valid because neither can be refuted or substantiation empirically.

Anyone with an IQ above 80 is already aware of this which is why your flailing around is just dumb. This also ignores your total ignorance of the cosmologies you are using in your examples further enhancing your "unique" argumentation.

Hai gaiz snowman beat up santa santa claus! Proves me WRONG! Is an argument on par with this one.

How richly ironic that you're using an ad hominem argument to accuse someone else of arguing poorly. Your critique consists entirely of "You're dumb and the OP sucks!"

Well done.