I agree with you that they want their services on competitors platforms. However, the very argument MS attorneys are making, that consoles rely on software and services to turn a profit, would actually help Sony and Nintendo if they were to go up against them in court trying to get into their marketplaces. I felt it was a mistake for MS to get involved when this whole thing started and still do. They are making statements in court that they might have to maneuver around in the future. The only way it makes sense (IMO) for MS to get involved is if they really think Game Pass is going to generate enough income on iOS to make it worthwhile.
Consider for a moment that MS is telling the truth. Just for a second. If that were the case, then this would only help MS's argument in that future hypothetical case against Sony and Nintendo. Assuming they both make a profit on their hardware.
Part of the ”Embrace, extend, extinguish” motto they had going?
No, he's completely off base. Microsoft propped up Apple when they were on the verge of bankruptcy. Because at that precise moment in time, Microsoft was getting dragged over the coals for being a monopoly.
Government; "You're a monopoly!"
MS; "How? We just gave our competitor $150M."
Government; "Valid point." *Looks the other way.
They wanted to take over Apple but iPod happened and Apple saved themselves!
The more and more you post, the less and less your age appears to be.
Not an extraordinary statement from Microsoft. Every new console box arrives with a new CPU, GPU, controller, hard drive, audio plug ins, motherboard, cooling fan, package holds everything together, contact interface UI none of that cheap.
Apple overcharging for Phones, don’t understand the model or just dance around it and playing dumb here. It’s well known for decades Sony and Microsoft reasoning to continue making consoles is the compensation payouts are large enough to make it profitable. Big developers have to give 30 percent of game sales to both companies.
. Plus there is manufacturing costs to consider as no company will build consoles for free.
While someone else touched on it previously, this is the second post out of all the ones here that has it right, which speaks volumes as to the combined intelligence of the GAF community as a whole.
I recall MS stating that they didn't want to lose money on the one hardware sales... That may have changed after release, but that what their intention was.
I'm sure that the PS4 was profitable not too long after release as well.
The only console manufacturer that I am sure they always made money on hardware sales alone was Nintendo since the Wii.
Sometimes that kind of move forces companies to release information that they did not intend, if wonder if that could happen here, we might end up with actual console sales figures!
Despite their claim to want exactly that... The last thing the majority of GAF wants is for MS to reveal their hardware numbers.
Why should they foot the bill serving files/data purchased on other storefronts as opposed to their own?
That's what they are charging for, and the reason why they were antagonistic is because with them having the largest install-base they would otherwise end up with the heaviest burden for the least gain.
Its a decent solution, everyone gets what they want.
Good God. Is there a place you to shop for all these shill statements, or do you simply take massive amounts of hallucinogenic drugs and make it up on your own?
I'll break this down as simply as possible as it relates specifically to MS's statement.
Epic claims Apple is being monopolistic by taking a 30% cut from app developers, and not allowing those developers to provide links that go outside of Apple's walled garden which would circumvent them getting their 30%.
Apple claims that they have a legitimate right to that 30%, as it's their ecosystem, with their devices, on their OS, and as such. They deserve the right to operate it and charge accordingly as they see fit.
MS sides with Epic due to their own interest in putting Gamepass on other devices and platforms. Relevent specifically in this case with them putting Gamepass on IOS.
Sound good so far?
MS states that they don't make a profit on hardware specifically for this reason...
Apple is certain to point to other platform holders such as Microsoft and Sony and claim "Why are they any different?" and question what them different from either Sony or MS. If done so convincingly it effectively kills the case, at least temporarily. Seeing as MS and Sony aren't defending parties, the judge can't force Apple to change, while knowingly allowing MS and Sony to continue as they currently are. So Apple would win at least temporarily. Until at some point down the road a proper practice ruling is made for the entire industry, which gives Apple time to pull strings as well as not be hindered while MS and Sony run free.
Microsoft is essentially saying "Yes, while we do charge 30% exactly like Apple does, we have to do so in order to make any money, as we don't make on hardware.". That gives MS a pass for having the exact same policy as Apple on their own console platform, because as everybody already knows. Apple makes plenty of profit from their hardware. Thus, they don't have the excuse that they need that 30% in order to make money like MS does.
And if you've been paying attention, perfectly explains why MS just last week reduced their cut from developers from 30%.