IsntChrisL
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jaekwon15 said:
Sure? I wasn't following the argument too closely. Just thought I'd throw a wrench in the conversation, I guess.
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Things you wish movies would stop doing
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Sure? I wasn't following the argument too closely. Just thought I'd throw a wrench in the conversation, I guess.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
MTV editing. It's insulting, but they assume the audience is going to fall asleep if they don't do it.
I hate it when people outrun things they have no business outrunning. I use the classic examples of Terminator (where a woman outran a truck going downhill), The Day After Tomorrow (in which people outran the cold), and Independence Day (wherein a woman carrying a small child manages to outrun an explosion).
Oh, and I'm sure 50 people have already suggested this, but if you have an action scene, please make sure the audience can see and understand what's going on. The quick cuts and pans add nothing.
Oh, and I'm sure 50 people have already suggested this, but if you have an action scene, please make sure the audience can see and understand what's going on. The quick cuts and pans add nothing.
I'm stealing this from a Cracked article, but when movies imply that you can steal or destroy anything by "hacking".
Also, movies that are shot digitally for no reason; Public Enemies is probably the worst offender, but Superman Returns, Deja Vu and quite a few others were shot digitally for some reason, and it doesn't help the movie in any way.
When it works, it works really well. David Fincher in particular has a knack for making digital cinematography work (Zodiac, Benjamin Button and The Social Network were all shot digitally) in combination with great use of digital color correction.
It worked for Michael Mann in Collateral, but I don't think anyone felt that digital was the right way to go for Public Enemies.
Also, movies that are shot digitally for no reason; Public Enemies is probably the worst offender, but Superman Returns, Deja Vu and quite a few others were shot digitally for some reason, and it doesn't help the movie in any way.
When it works, it works really well. David Fincher in particular has a knack for making digital cinematography work (Zodiac, Benjamin Button and The Social Network were all shot digitally) in combination with great use of digital color correction.
It worked for Michael Mann in Collateral, but I don't think anyone felt that digital was the right way to go for Public Enemies.
I'll just post this right here:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18862_6-deadly-injuries-you-think-youd-survive-thanks-to-movies.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_18862_6-deadly-injuries-you-think-youd-survive-thanks-to-movies.html
Following it up with this
http://www.cracked.com/article_18664_5-annoying-trends-that-make-every-movie-look-same.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_18664_5-annoying-trends-that-make-every-movie-look-same.html
crazy monkey
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shakes fist. :lolMeadows said:
MisterNugNug
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I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet.
EVERY TIME a character in a movie wakes up in bed and goes into the bathroom to brush their teeth, THEY DON'T USE TOOTHPASTE. They just stand there,walk around or recite lines while brushing their mouth with a dry toothbrush. Who does that?
EVERY TIME a character in a movie wakes up in bed and goes into the bathroom to brush their teeth, THEY DON'T USE TOOTHPASTE. They just stand there,walk around or recite lines while brushing their mouth with a dry toothbrush. Who does that?
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
I swear, before reading your spoiler, I was initially going to respond with, "Even Vic Mackey does this shit." :lol I only recently finished The Shield, so all those abruptly ended phone calls were still fresh in my thoughts.Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
I guess even well-written, top quality dramas aren't immune to this particular trope.
afternoon delight
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Language sometimes irks me. We were watching Quantum of Solace again (which is great and doesn't deserve hatred) and in one scene Bond walks a guard to the edge of the building, gun point blank to his throat. And the guard's one line? "Piss off".
I'm more than likely a mercenary bodyguard-type, and that's what I'd say right before a violent, abrupt execution? I'm inclined to think the emotion of such an event is closer between Pesci's scene in Casino and Torturro's in Miller's Crossing.
I know, it's small, and who's expecting super-heroes to talk with their victims, but still. "Piss off" ? Should've just left him silent to seem more unafraid than using twelve year old insults if your script won't support the language.
I'm more than likely a mercenary bodyguard-type, and that's what I'd say right before a violent, abrupt execution? I'm inclined to think the emotion of such an event is closer between Pesci's scene in Casino and Torturro's in Miller's Crossing.
I know, it's small, and who's expecting super-heroes to talk with their victims, but still. "Piss off" ? Should've just left him silent to seem more unafraid than using twelve year old insults if your script won't support the language.
I hate it when characters are always wearing coats and sweaters year round in places that are usually pretty hot. In 500 days of summer Tom wears cardigans year round in LA in whats probably 80 degree weather at least. Not a movie, but in breaking bad Jessee is always wearing a big hoodie or coat in the desert in Albuquerque.
I hate it when people put their back up against a wall, and then the camera looks around the corner for them. I know the point is so that we can see the actor's face and how they hold their gun all cool, but it's stupid and unrealistic. Somehow they always seem to look right as the bad guy is coming, or as the camera just spots them. Oh how convenient...
ChubbyHuggs
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I wish almost every comedy would stop adding drama into their formula.
Funny, Funny, Dramatic Scene, Grieving, FUNNY!
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Funny, Funny, Dramatic Scene, Grieving, FUNNY!
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johnsmith said:
1) If it's winter here, you'll want one. Not too cold but it's still more comfortable wearing one.
2) People born and raised here have no cold tolerance. Not sure if Jessee was born here in the TV show, but as soon as the daytime highs hit 75, the locals start complaining about being cold.
Jack Scofield
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Kuramu said:
Arrested Development does this all the time, particularly season 3 (EDIT: season 2, I mean). One particularly bad example in AD is in season 2 episode "Burning Love." When talking to Michael, Tobias motions behind him and says "right out back they were having one." When it switches to Michael's reaction, we clearly see Tobias motion behind him again. Basically the same exact moment from two angles. Very noticeable.
I don't really mind, but it's so obvious when combined with ADR (re-dubbing a character). All of a sudden a character's voice becomes louder and much more clear.
Youta Mottenai
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This. Sex scenes. Why freaking bother since, most of the time, it's completely irrelevant to the plot and nothing is shown?Count Dookkake said:
'In the Line of Fire' did it right. They start to kiss and undress in the bedroon, camera moves away, fade, next scene.
I don't know if this exactly what you're saying but let me give you two examples I heard about suspension of disbelief:dorkimoe said:
a)a guy from another planet, who can fly, goes everywhere saving people (with his underwear over the pants no less) -> OK suspension of disbelief
b)this same guy, without knowing the combination, opens a high security bank safe at the first try -> NOT OK suspension of disbelief
eternaLightness
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"We've lost contact hours ago. Obviously something horrible happened, but let's send one or only a few people to deal with the situation."
"I have a gun to your face and I know you've done some horrible things, but I still can't pull the trigger."
"I have a gun to your face and I know you've done some horrible things, but I still can't pull the trigger."
Patrick Bateman
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That reminds me of the scene in Pearl Harbor where the camera follows a bomb right into an American ship. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that and thinking about how dumb it was. Then I read an interview about the movie and they asked the director, why they did that CGI-scene and he just answers something ala "Because we could!"....eshwaaz said:
It had no value whatsoever. It was just a popcorn movie-scene for Ohhhs and Aaaahs.
Prophet Steve
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Wanted to say this. :lollouie said:
Something I think is annoying is the fact that broken glass doesn't hurt at all. I have always been taught different.
junesongprovider
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Kreed said:
I agree with your first point here. Protagonists do always get extravagant deaths.
As for your second point, do you honestly expect a protagonist to respond to his friend's death with a shrug and move on? The 50 or so soldiers are often just colleagues or co-workers at best, but fellow protagonists often have closer relationships. This particular thing seems less like a trope and more like what would actually happen if your buddy got his head chopped off.
Danne-Danger
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Why do painful broken glass when Die Hard did it better?Prophet Steve said:
lightless_shado
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People should post movies that also subvert some of these complaints. Many movies out there do, but there are some complaints that I've never seen adressed by any writers/directors such as the alien race all looking the same.
I mean it kind of makes sense if aliens are coming to earth, because who knows maybe in their history they've mixed up their races so much so that everyone has one set of features or something. But it doesn't make sense in something like Avatar where humans are more advanced yet all the alien creatures still look the same.
Also a person being the king/leader of an ENTIRE PLANET(which usually is even bigger than earth)
I mean it kind of makes sense if aliens are coming to earth, because who knows maybe in their history they've mixed up their races so much so that everyone has one set of features or something. But it doesn't make sense in something like Avatar where humans are more advanced yet all the alien creatures still look the same.
Also a person being the king/leader of an ENTIRE PLANET(which usually is even bigger than earth)
KidGalactus
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A lot of the things you guys are asking for would stop the story dead in its tracks... deflate tension or else prevent it from being built up in the first place.
Just the same, keep bitching. This is entertaining to read.
This happens quite a few times in the sorceror's apprentice. I think it's because they're using audio from a different take. Maybe recorded later, or the actual audio for the scene was muffled or distorted from facing away from the mic.
Just the same, keep bitching. This is entertaining to read.
Kuramu said:
This happens quite a few times in the sorceror's apprentice. I think it's because they're using audio from a different take. Maybe recorded later, or the actual audio for the scene was muffled or distorted from facing away from the mic.
The Take Out Bandit
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Giving Zack Snyder jobs.
junesongprovider said:
You misunderstood my second point, but it may have been bad wording on my part. I don't expect a protagonist in a film not to have a response to a friend's death/the death of another main character. I'm saying that I would like to see more mourning or some sort of sad reaction to the deaths and injuries for the 50 soldiers and/or side characters, even if it's crying from random mother/children characters or something.
While I'm not expecting the main characters to cry their eyes out for random solder X taking a shot to the chest but at least SOMEONE should shed a tear for these guys in these films so that the audience knows they weren't just canon fodder/their lives had meaning. In most movies and shows these characters just die and that's it. It doesn't matter how many of them died or what they did in battle to help the main characters. UNLESS one or more main characters died with them in battle, then they'll usually get a funeral service with the main character(s) who passed away.
Femmeworth
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That ruined tranquilizer darts in the MGS series for me.Pakkidis said:
crazy monkey
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cartoon movies that try to be both kids movie and adult movie. just be entertaining. Both up and Wall-E were ruined for me because of it.
Nard Bagman
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Bad guys can't hit shit with guns.
Guns have hundreds of bullets in a clip.
Knockouts with ease.
Fucking explosions.
Thousands of camera changes in one minute.
Just a few things that make action movies unbearable for me to watch. It's all the time with this shit. Just do it right and believable or don't do it. I feel like I've said this before, maybe to some friends recently...
Guns have hundreds of bullets in a clip.
Knockouts with ease.
Fucking explosions.
Thousands of camera changes in one minute.
Just a few things that make action movies unbearable for me to watch. It's all the time with this shit. Just do it right and believable or don't do it. I feel like I've said this before, maybe to some friends recently...
TacticalFox88
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Hollywood sex scenes. No Hollywood, sex isn't always dramatic taking your clothes off and having good passionate sex. Summed up as follow:
No-one has difficulty getting into position. No-one ever gets their hair pulled because an arm is in the wrong place, no awkward elbows or knees. It is not necessary to communicate to coordinate yourselves. Everyone will simply transition from one position to another as smoothly as Olympic gymnasts.
No one sticks together from the sweat.
Contraception is not existent
Both parties ALWAYS climax simultaneously. No precum here!
If the woman is losing her virginity the only pain she feels is when he first sticks it in and that's just a grunt. Pleasure from then on!
Wow...
No-one has difficulty getting into position. No-one ever gets their hair pulled because an arm is in the wrong place, no awkward elbows or knees. It is not necessary to communicate to coordinate yourselves. Everyone will simply transition from one position to another as smoothly as Olympic gymnasts.
No one sticks together from the sweat.
Contraception is not existent
Both parties ALWAYS climax simultaneously. No precum here!
If the woman is losing her virginity the only pain she feels is when he first sticks it in and that's just a grunt. Pleasure from then on!
Wow...
crazy monkey
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TacticalFox88 said:
and also showing possible the most awkward positions.
ChubbyHuggs said:
I don't see what's wrong with this when done well. I don't mean every comedy should do it, but some of the most effective comedy films usually have a good heart to them.
If the 'heart' becomes hypocritical to a lot of the film's humour however...(Adam Sandler films seem to be guilty of this)
KidGalactus
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Kreed said:
There's a part in The Invisibles that's exactly this. You should check it out. It's a very cool comic.
That said... these are movies. Those guys ARE cannon fodder. It's fairly unlikely the writer has a back-story, motivations and family members for each one of those fifty guys. Think about it. Do you want there to be a scene during the final battle in let's say "Independence day" where a young fighter pilot gets exploded by the aliens, then we cut to some old lady, WHO WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. crying her ass off? Now imagine that times fifty.
What kind of sense does that make? It doesn't fit in a movie like that. Which incidentally is just the kind of movie that's most likely to have that sort of scene.
Now I can certainly agree that scenes like that could possibly make people more comfortable with sending REAL dudes off to somewhere else to shoot at and be shot at by people we don't know, and I think that's kind of awful... but that's a different conversation.
MaddenNFL64
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K.Jack said:
UGH......
Jamie Foxx, you damn well know you should have died at the end. Damn.
TacticalFox88
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MaddenNFL64
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Like how people who had been guillotined back in the day would blink for about a minute, despite being a bodiless head in a basket.
I dunno. I still think of that as fucking dead.
This is a small annoyance, but it bugs me when scenes begin with one character entering a room and another character greets them by saying, "You're late!"
Once you start noticing it, you realize it happens all the damn time on TV and in movies. It's a dumb cliche for jumpstarting a scene with some artificial tension. It's not a big deal, but it's lazy screenwriting.
Once you start noticing it, you realize it happens all the damn time on TV and in movies. It's a dumb cliche for jumpstarting a scene with some artificial tension. It's not a big deal, but it's lazy screenwriting.
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