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This most "recent" Lara Croft... To this day she isn't really much of Lara Croft to me.

Fuz

Banned
I don't like her either.

Too attached to the old design, to the point that the reboot didn't interest me in the slightest. Felt zero compulsion to try those games.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
Let us cherish current Lara for as long as we can, you can bet that with the next reboot they're going to make her flat chested and boyish looking.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
still crazy nobody has made a classic outfit mod for the new games.

sex appeal was a huge part of why she blew up in the 90s. a shame they took that away.

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Fbh

Member
She is still hot but they turned her into such a a boring and overly serious character that it's hard to like her. It also makes the more story heavy approach of these games less enjoyable.

The first reboot was still good though
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
the new story is just so horrible. by the third game i was just skipping cutscenes. all the generic villains and stuff is more boring than any movie.

i miss the early LC. super confident, world traveler, goes out and seeks this stuff. closer to James Bond or Indiana Jones, more of a larger than life figure. of quite literally in some ways ;-p

a big problem with the story is, it just feels like she is reacting to things, whereas in the past she had more agency, more of a take charge attitude. now, the writers want us to feel bad for her and protect her, this is a vastly different approach compared to the 90s.
 

The Snake

Member
I own every Tomb Raider game to date and a couple years ago, played them all in release order. It was a pretty interesting journey to say the least, seeing how much the series, as well as Lara, have changed.

So you have three Laras, one for each "era" or canons from the games:

  • Classic Lara (TR1-Angel of Darkness)
  • 2006 Lara (Legends, Anniversary, Underworld)
  • Modern Lara (TR13, Rise, Shadow)
To be totally honest the 2006 Lara is very similar to, if not a bit less over-the-top than, Classic Lara. Lara in Underworld is kind of like a transition between the two. Classic Lara was sexy, quippy, and dangerous. She was essentially your typical 90's comic book heroine--anybody who read female-led comics in those days knows exactly the type of character I'm describing. Very pulpy, very corny at times.

Modern Lara is a realistic take on the type of character, But she's not quite as "badass," or snarky. She's more whimsical and full of wonder. I think what they were planning to do was to make her this way in the first reboot game (Tomb Raider 2013), and have her grow into the more badass Lara. But it didn't really happen? And honestly it wouldn't have felt natural had it.

Personally I'm not a fan of the new Lara, though I do understand the intent behind her design. I'm ready for Tomb Raider to go back to cheesy and snarky. Basically, a game that combines the modern trilogy's gameplay with a character more like Bayonetta. Confident, sexy, smarmy. We got our realistic take on the series, now it's time to return to the comic book heroine.

Though, I'll say that there was a moment in Shadow when she felt like classic Lara again. Just for a moment, though.
 
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EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Silly thread...

I applaud the transformation Tomb Raider went through less sexy more agile, and makes me feel like Tomb Raider is a AAA character not a barbie doll.
 
I don't really see how Crystal Dynamics really envision Lara as a character now. It's almost as though one of them watched the Christoper Nolan Batman trilogy and thought, he we can do this with Lara. Honestly, Lara Croft to me was quirky, confident, intelligent, sarcastic and such a brave character as she was written by the Core Design team originally. I really enjoyed Tomb Raider Anniversary and Tomb Raider Underworld, but I find the developers don't really understand this intrinsically British character. It's hard sometimes to retain a cultural feel to a character, but Lara in the latest Tomb Raider trilogy felt too much like they were trying too hard to make the female Christian Bale version of Bruce Wayne. I mean she gets piked through the side in the first game for fucks sake and she's then mysteriously fine until near the end of the game when it suddenly begins to affect her. But also the whole exploration angle has lost it's enjoyable feeling of discovery and it's been made to feel more like a female version of Uncharted.

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the recently trilogy within reason but you can see too many inspirations and sources of inspiration that I felt like it was a melting pot of concepts and didn't really do anything faithful to the character.
 

Valonquar

Member
All of the characters in the story are terrible 1 dimensional jokes. I couldn't tell you the name of any character outside of Lara from any of the reboot games. They didn't matter at all.
Also I can't wait til they try to get press by introducing a playable male Croft and it ends up being more successful.
 
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Paracelsus

Member
How many 2013 Lara cosplays have you seen around?
I know, me neither, that's how you tell a character looks boring. it's like cosplaying as Nathan Drake, all you need is a hipster spiked front haircut, roll yourself in dirt for five minutes, and there you have it.
 

Shakka43

Member
New Lara looks perfectly fine. The games were pretty good too, well at least until the last one which was a beautiful borefest.
 
I liked the 2013 Lara, you got the impression that she would become the booty shorts and tank top sporting Lara we all know and love, this was just her "origin story"

But it was with the sequels they decided to go in a more "feminist" direction.
 

Gargus

Banned
My problem is there are wayyyyy too many games out like tomb Raider now. So many action adventure, running, jumping, shooting, solving puzzles. So many that the new tomb Raider games I find boring because I find Laura Croft boring, no one does anything good with the character and the games themselves I find kind of generic and bland.

The original tomb Raider was great because the game play was really great for it's time and it felt new and different than most games. Laura was also cool because they didn't try to humanize her or make her realistic or try to show her as a "strong woman" or any of that boring shit. Laura was strictly a hot ass woman that was pretty, only cared about her own endgame, was smart and capable and out for her own needs and gains. That's why she was a fun character to play as.

Ever since crystal dynamics took over for like 5 or 6 games ago the series went down hill and now I dont even give a shit.
 
Not tuned in to this way of thinking i regret. I prefer the more interesting character she is now and i have no need to fap to her..

Besides, i hear the internet's full of perfectly realised boob-laden digital pornstars just waiting at the end of an incognito Google image/gif search~ not that I'd know anything about that -_-
 

Pimpbaa

Member
Like a few others here I liked the first 2 games of the current trilogy (and Lara), but man the newest one was pretty goddamn bad.
 

kiphalfton

Member
Not tuned in to this way of thinking i regret. I prefer the more interesting character she is now and i have no need to fap to her..

Besides, i hear the internet's full of perfectly realised boob-laden digital pornstars just waiting at the end of an incognito Google image/gif search~ not that I'd know anything about that -_-

I heard the Bing video search function shows snippets of all sorts of videos. That's what I heard.
 
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Kataploom

Gold Member
Anyway, every day I see on my way to work in front of someone's house door one life size statue of Lara Croft in her classic look.

And even though I actually only finished in franchise first game in this reboot serious something, and played first, and second PS1 TR, it reminded me how Lara is really Penthouse girl Indiana Jones, she had big boobs, and is sexy, and we are supposed to fap to her, not think about how she is as a person.

Basically, similar to how many wish Tifa in remake should have bigger boobs.

Should Lara return to her old school sex bomb self?
Nah, I can fap with porn or just have sex if that's it, regarding TR I like current Lara and am waiting for more of this universe :D
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Exactly this. She is a nothing character that goes from vengeful rage to silent stealthy killer to chatting sweetly to little kids in the village. Deep in the heart of South America, where of course everyone speaks English. Her only consistent personality traits are that she cares about that worthless fucker "I only exist to prove that Lara can care about a friend" Jonah and she misses her parents. FUCKING YAWN. They should have gone the other direction hard, a mature middle-aged Lara out there fucking robbing tombs, killing anyone who gets in her way, a stone-cold hot bitch anti-hero. That could sell. I'd fucking buy that shit full price day one.
A hot, forty something, disillusioned Lara with some type of horrible addiction that forces her to raid tombs for money would be AMAZING. Would never happen because female characters are not supposed to have vices or show weakness anymore.
 
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Xenon

Member
My take

Original Lara: older and expirienced with a more defined refine personality. She is unapologeticly a tomb raider and makes it look easy.


New Laura: Younger and fumbling her way through things still not comfortable with her role. Getting by on raw skill.


I don't think the 2013 Lara replaced OG Lara. Shes just at a different point in her life.
 

lachesis

Member
I don't mind the new look - but I do mind her personality and excessive killing in the game. Sure, battles may be necessary to move the story forward - but I'd much rather have some true exploration in the middle, rather than waves and waves of enemies to kill.
 

TwiztidElf

Member
Shadow of the Tomb Raider. wtf?
Lara knowingly triggers a Tsunami that kills hundreds, maybe thousands of people, and it's no big deal. She barely bats an eye.
The justification? Oh, the bad guy would have done it anyway...
 
I can't think of any other iconic videogame character other than Lara Croft that got such a drastic character change. Lara Croft went from confident relic collecting puzzle solving bad ass. To bow and arrow action girl. They need to reboot the series again and remember who Lara Croft is.
 

anthraticus

Banned
AAA and their obsession with fucking story...I dont really care what she looks like, but I’d love it if they just made a game withOUT Uncharted/TLOU gravitas and character studies. I miss the days when videogame writing was basic and just kind of there.

Now every AAA tries to make the player feel while conveying somekind of American Millennial Approved message....well, every Western AAA game.
That's why avoid it at all costs and couldn't care less about whatever garbage they pull out of their sjw shitholes.
 
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