Nice. I understood that reference.
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TLOU Remastered: 30 fps option gives better shadow quality [Up: Comparison GIF in OP]
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Nice. I understood that reference.
iNvid02
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the patch details mean you're likely right, i think the lack of communication/media made me jump the gun. and i dont know why because i dont even have a ps4 yet. the fuck
They might as well just file for bankruptcy now, right?
TheDrowningMan
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Yep.
This is exactly what SHOULD happen with this sort of more; don't gimp it unnecessarily for 60fps if you're going to have a frame rate option. This should be welcomed, both by those who want the added smoothness and those who are happy to play at 30.
Leafhopper
Banned
Neither do I.
yup. cuz the Halo games were equally as technically challenging as The Last of Us. also, porting CELL code to more traditional GPU coding is just as easy. apples vs oranges here man.
Chinese Cartoons
Banned
Everyone knows shadows and high fps makes games good.
It'll still spawn a shitload of nonsensical "OMG PS4 can't run a PS3 game at 60FPS!" and "PS4 maxed out already!!!" posts.
Kssio_Aug
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Saint Gregory
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Unless the 60fps version isn't locked I can't imagine that I'll prefer 30 but I'll try them both now just to see.
This kind of reminds me of how a few of the early 3DS games like RE:R gave you bonus effects if you turned off 3D. I'm disappointed that more games don't allow these kinds of trade-offs.
This kind of reminds me of how a few of the early 3DS games like RE:R gave you bonus effects if you turned off 3D. I'm disappointed that more games don't allow these kinds of trade-offs.
Yes, the PS4 being able to do a more time-intensive task when you give it more time to work means that it's maxed out now. No more better-looking PS4 games, this is all you get. Sorry.
No.
Solid Samus
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Yes. It would and I would applaud the practice.
It's less that it needs to sacrifice framerate and more that you have the option to play how you like. When lowering to 30fps, there was a little more juice so they said, "lets actually use that".
It's where console games should go in the future to be more like PC and just have a standard setting for the mainstream audience that doesn't want to tune.
Me too, especially with the whole "it will never drop below 30fps" bit of the article. Maybe it's just me, but I was expecting the default mode to deliver a proper, unflinching 60fps experience.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Honestly, it would be kind of silly if they didn't take advantage of the extra overhead they had with a 30fps lock in some way.
And yeah, hopefully the ability for players to choose to sacrifice framerate for better effects, AA, etc. or vice versa becomes more common in games going forward.
And yeah, hopefully the ability for players to choose to sacrifice framerate for better effects, AA, etc. or vice versa becomes more common in games going forward.
From the various impressions of early copies, it does.
It shouldn't be, but it will be
Stop taking people's word for it and just wait for the inevitable DF graph.
SerTapTap
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I think that's a cool aspect of the 30 FPS lock. People see all this forum stuff about 60 FPS but now there's a super easy way on a console game to lock and see for yourself (and people saying 30FPS is fine are usually console-only).
Here's some proof via the TLOU:R press kit:
TLOU Declassified
Back to the topic though, having to make trade-off decisions are the biggest pain for me when playing video games. It always made me feel like I made the wrong decision at some point of the game, where one is clearly superior than the alternative choice...
Like someone mentioned, I wanted to fully utilize the photo mode to capture the most precious moment of this master piece, which is better suited for 30 fps with better visuals. Yet the smooth 60 fps gameplay is what made me want to double dip in the first place. OMG WHAT TO DO?!
JumpJeff84
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Cool!
60 frames for me all the way. I constantly lower graphics settings on my PC to increase frame rate.
No matter how nice fancy graphics are, your brain eventually gets used to them. A high frame rate stays awesome THE WHOLE GAME.
60 frames for me all the way. I constantly lower graphics settings on my PC to increase frame rate.
No matter how nice fancy graphics are, your brain eventually gets used to them. A high frame rate stays awesome THE WHOLE GAME.
Bungie should do the same with Destiny
How? doesn't have good shadows at 30fps.
IIRC Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate had a somewhat better framerate and did horizontal downsampling from 800x240 to 400x240 if you disabled 3D from the menu.
MoonsaultSlayer
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To set things straight, are they saying 60 retains last gen's shadows while 30 gets a boost? Or 30 retains last gen's shadows and 60 gets a downgrade?
SolidusDave
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Well for the few moments in which you actually have to shoot openly instead of using stealth etc., I guess you can switch it to 60 fps
jacksepticeye
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All day everyday
Once youtube starts supporting 60fps universally it will make for some great comparisons too. We finally have a situation where we can directly compare exact sections at 60 and 30
Yeah, having 4 games in one with 4 different engines is so easy too, alongside seamless graphics transitions.
Two of those are Grounded doc and photo mode.Here's some proof via the TLOU:R press kit:
Both are improved. 30's is just improved more.
Betta Lines
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30fps photomode then. Acceptable framerate to line up beauty shots, not headshots.
No. 60 has greatly improved shadows from last-gen, 30 improves them even more.
60FPS already has better shadows. 30FPS just has EVEN better shadows
brickarts295
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It does, as stated numerous times by the devs and people who have played it.