BacklashWave534
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I've ben using an LG 48" OLED as a monitor for 5 years. No burn-in whatsoever. You won't regret it once you make the move.
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I've ben using an LG 48" OLED as a monitor for 5 years. No burn-in whatsoever. You won't regret it once you make the move.
Great Auk
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I wish they'd make a 27 inch 3:2 glossy OLED panel. I can't be the only begging for this form factor.
Shtef
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What do you do on your computer? I also have 48" oled but I am not sure if its too big for programming.
BacklashWave534
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I have a Mac Mini hooked up to it for (IT Security) work and a gaming PC which is what i use it mostly for. It's alot easier than having a dual monitor setup.
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Anchovie123
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Got the Gigabyte MO27Q2 last week, one of the cheapest 27 inch on the market currently.
No complaints, 1440p 240hz, HDMI 2.1 x2, Glossy.
Only downside is HDR 400 but it is what it is.
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No complaints, 1440p 240hz, HDMI 2.1 x2, Glossy.
Only downside is HDR 400 but it is what it is.
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ShadyAcshuns
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I don't know about that. I play a lot of old systems with 30fps.
Katatonic
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I've never heard this OLED is bad for 30 fps games outside of this forum. 30 fps will be just as shitty on any display tech.
Ulysses 31
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It's not, 30 fps motion on CRTs looks better than any sample and hold tech of modern displays.
RTINGS explains why it's worse on modern TVs(faster response time = more stutter on low FPS content).
How We Calculate Stutter On Dozens Of TVs Each Year
Stutter is an artifact of motion that happens when a frame stays on the screen for too long. It can be bothersome while watching movies or low frame rate content because the TV has to hold each frame on longer.
www.rtings.com
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SunnySideGuy
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Does anyone have the LG 32GS95UE OLED monitor? I can't for the life of me find good calibration settings for SDR/HDR (including Win 11 Calibration tool). I've watched so many Youtube videos, read reddit posts, etc. and it bums me out lol. Can someone here please help me find good settings for both modes please? Thanks in advance
Giallo Corsa
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"Outside of this forum" ?
Man, the OLED judder is a very well known and catalogued issue with these TVs due to their near instant response time.
For me it's so bad that had I witnessed it beforehand I would have opted for a MiniLED, I dislike 30fps but it's kind of tolerable at the same time (always depending on the game) - not so much on an OLED though since everything 30fps becomes judder city as soon as you start moving the camera around.
It's so bad that it made stop revisiting older, 30fps games - and God knows there's a lot of those on consoles...
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AddiF
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Hey guys. Need an honest opinion as I've been out of the loop the last few years. My LG OLED is 8 years old and full of nasty burn-in. I'm thinking about replacing it in the coming weeks for a new 77+ inch TV but I'm not sure what I should buy. Should I go for the 2025 LG's (which one?) or something else? I've also been offered a few Samsung TV's: QN95D, S90D, S95D. Are those any good? I have no idea what to do. I just want a TV that makes me smile ear to ear but preferably won't suffer from burn-in. I've heard that newer OLEDs are much better in that regard but is it true?
BacklashWave534
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Not sure how that would effect OLED. There are protections in place to shift pixels and prevent burn in. I have static content on it all the time and no burn-in.
I wouldn't bother with Samsung. Look at Sony & LG for oleds. Also check Avs forums
Pipoqueiro
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Oled. But use in PC monitor like me and get burn in with 2 years of use
vodka-bull
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I let it deliver, so any damage during transportation is insured.
DoomGyver
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I bought an LG OLED CX fall of 2020 and I have clusters of dead pixels along the bottom and sides. Always had pixel refresher in auto and pixel shift set to on. Research says some panels were made with a bad seal allowing air to get into the organic screen causing decay.
I think I'm going to replace it with a Samsung Neo QLED, or possibly go with an LG OLED again. But I'm hesitant.
I think I'm going to replace it with a Samsung Neo QLED, or possibly go with an LG OLED again. But I'm hesitant.
Stafford
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I am curious...
Anyone here that has had or has a Sony A95K and also has seen and used a LG G5? I really like my Sony A95K, but one thing I don't find too stellar is SDR gaming. Really noticed that today in Space Marine 2. Now of course I can change peak luminance to medium or even high, but I will likely make games way too bright in night time scenes.
Also, this is my third or even fourth year with the A95K now. Would it be worth it to trade or sell the A95K for a good price and get a G5?
Or absolutely not?
Anyone here that has had or has a Sony A95K and also has seen and used a LG G5? I really like my Sony A95K, but one thing I don't find too stellar is SDR gaming. Really noticed that today in Space Marine 2. Now of course I can change peak luminance to medium or even high, but I will likely make games way too bright in night time scenes.
Also, this is my third or even fourth year with the A95K now. Would it be worth it to trade or sell the A95K for a good price and get a G5?
Or absolutely not?
marquimvfs
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This, and also, oleds still need some form of babyssitting bullshit in order to not burn in, although it's not as egregious as it was once.
vodka-bull
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Once you try true black you never go back they say!
Ulysses 31
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Samsung TVs have Game Motion Plus that make 30 fps stutter more tolerable.
1. Yes, G4 is worth it. G4 is probably the second best OLED (or TV in general) from 2024 after Sony A95L. C4 is good too, just doesn't get as bright as G4, and C4's brightness is limited further in LG's game mode.
2. Bravia 7 and 9 are good mini-led options, and it seems like Hisense U8 is good too although I've never seen that one in person. Sony TVs have fewer gaming features vs other brands: no 144hz (120hz only), no 1440p support, only two HDMI 2.1 ports, slightly higher input lag (around one-half frame). They do everything else very well and have great picture quality.
MacReady13
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I've had my Samsung S90D OLED for about a year now. Fantastic TV. Highly recommend this TV. Picture really pops and no burn in (yet)!!!!! Using PS5 pro, series X, Switch and heaps of PC for gaming and surfing the net. And no burn in! Again, only a year in but great TV. I was scared to do with OLED but I have zero regrets.
Celcius
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Thanks, your response lines up with what I've seen in my research today. Seems like the 65" (largest size that comes with stand and best bang for buck price) LG G4 is the TV to get. I think I've finally been convinced to go OLED for my next TV.
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Won't ever buy an oled again myself personally, well LG at least. Had a few over the years sent a few back due to back DSE and my CX I've just given to my son.
The CX was the biggest decider for me as it developed a clicking sound in tv apps only. Then a month ago, it kept reseting itself after around 10 mins on everything but PS5, where it would do very, very rarely. I play Eve online and also got annoyed with the screen dimming itself it's very, very noticeable.
The CX was a common problem of chip paste drying up after a few years. The main issue for me is the brightness on full screen and overall. Got myself the TCL mini led 65inch C855 to replace the CX I gave my son, and the colours pop way more, and things like explosions are way brighter and have more impact. Got myself last year the 85inch C845 for downstairs that is the model before my current TCL and was impressed.
I'm not sure how good the QD-Oleds are, but they are stupid expensive for their sizes. If you want to go oled and dont mind the prices then go QD-Oled as I feel a good mini LED beats standard oleds in everything but darker scenes and the extra brightness of mini led has more impact overall.
Still have 2 oleds in my house, the CX I gave my son and another oled I got for my younger son and couple years ago, That's a B model LG and dim as fuck TBH.
Anyway don't rule out mini Led especially the TCL, you get alot of tech in them especially the higher models obviously. As someone who has had many oleds over the years, not QD though, the mini led are better, so maybe consider that if you can't go QD-Oled. If you go LG get a longer warranty with it.
The CX was the biggest decider for me as it developed a clicking sound in tv apps only. Then a month ago, it kept reseting itself after around 10 mins on everything but PS5, where it would do very, very rarely. I play Eve online and also got annoyed with the screen dimming itself it's very, very noticeable.
The CX was a common problem of chip paste drying up after a few years. The main issue for me is the brightness on full screen and overall. Got myself the TCL mini led 65inch C855 to replace the CX I gave my son, and the colours pop way more, and things like explosions are way brighter and have more impact. Got myself last year the 85inch C845 for downstairs that is the model before my current TCL and was impressed.
I'm not sure how good the QD-Oleds are, but they are stupid expensive for their sizes. If you want to go oled and dont mind the prices then go QD-Oled as I feel a good mini LED beats standard oleds in everything but darker scenes and the extra brightness of mini led has more impact overall.
Still have 2 oleds in my house, the CX I gave my son and another oled I got for my younger son and couple years ago, That's a B model LG and dim as fuck TBH.
Anyway don't rule out mini Led especially the TCL, you get alot of tech in them especially the higher models obviously. As someone who has had many oleds over the years, not QD though, the mini led are better, so maybe consider that if you can't go QD-Oled. If you go LG get a longer warranty with it.
Celcius
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I didn't realize that the LG G5 just came out: https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-oled65g5wua-oled-4k-tv
Apparently now you have to buy the stand separately if you want it? https://www.lg.com/au/tv-accessories/sa-g5sn65/
Rtings is going to have their full review next week:
Goes up to 165hz now and available in up to 97": https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-83-...-one-wall-design-2025/6621830.p?skuId=6621830
edit: Full review is out: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g5-oled
Apparently now you have to buy the stand separately if you want it? https://www.lg.com/au/tv-accessories/sa-g5sn65/
Rtings is going to have their full review next week:
Goes up to 165hz now and available in up to 97": https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-83-...-one-wall-design-2025/6621830.p?skuId=6621830
edit: Full review is out: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g5-oled
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DirtyBast8rd
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Unbeknown to me and i suspect many people as i haven't read about this anywhere. I was playing around with my 42 C2 and 55 G4 LG Oleds and tried switching between the 444 pass through on and off setting. Mind you i did this with the hdmi input not set to pc. I discovered that with the 444 pass through setting on with the Lazy dog jumps something test screen, nothing changed and super resolution was unavailable in game mode screensettings menu. As the test passed this would indicate that 444 was always enabled. Only when switching from labeling the hdmi input to game console or pc and back, did the 444 test failed and thus the tv was rendering 422 chrome subsampling (without restarting the pc)
When restaring the pc and leaving the hdmi settings and everything as above after failing, the tv would pass the 444 test again. As I'm using EARC on both tv's i have simplink on. I suspect what happens is when the tv is on the correct input when starting the pc, and after its fired up, you turn on the pc, the tv recognizes its getting fed images from a pc (edid info) and automatically sets itself to 444 pass through, regardless of if the 444 pass through setting is activated or the hdmi input is labeled as pc. ( It would still pass 444 even when the 444 toggle was off). This whould lead to people thinking the 444 pass through setting or labeling the hdmi input as a pc doesn't matter when in reality it does (for better or worse, I do believe something in the way the tv processes the color informating is lost when using 444 pass through at the gain of some fine detail retrieval, but thats a nother topic.) The result is the same for the C2 and the G4.
Free tip to always put on the tv first and switch it to the correct hdmi input and after that the pc. Otherwise the tv doesn't recognize the HDR calibration from the app as it doesn't get the information correctly)
When restaring the pc and leaving the hdmi settings and everything as above after failing, the tv would pass the 444 test again. As I'm using EARC on both tv's i have simplink on. I suspect what happens is when the tv is on the correct input when starting the pc, and after its fired up, you turn on the pc, the tv recognizes its getting fed images from a pc (edid info) and automatically sets itself to 444 pass through, regardless of if the 444 pass through setting is activated or the hdmi input is labeled as pc. ( It would still pass 444 even when the 444 toggle was off). This whould lead to people thinking the 444 pass through setting or labeling the hdmi input as a pc doesn't matter when in reality it does (for better or worse, I do believe something in the way the tv processes the color informating is lost when using 444 pass through at the gain of some fine detail retrieval, but thats a nother topic.) The result is the same for the C2 and the G4.
Free tip to always put on the tv first and switch it to the correct hdmi input and after that the pc. Otherwise the tv doesn't recognize the HDR calibration from the app as it doesn't get the information correctly)
Sardaukarama
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Picked a C4 77" up for $1900 from electronic express so the wife is kept pacified and silent playin junes journey 
...I know where I wil be getting a G5 cheap next yr for my pc set up!
...I know where I wil be getting a G5 cheap next yr for my pc set up!
DirtyBast8rd
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55 G4, it's flawless. First tv I don't thinker with settings and just enjoy it.
peish
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LG G5 is out and reviewed, finally OLED is ready for primetime, day and night viewings, SDR and HDR viewings.
Almost doubled the brightness and color volume of G4.
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Almost doubled the brightness and color volume of G4.
LG G4 vs G5 OLED: Which TV Is Better?
The LG G5 OLED is better than the LG G4 OLED due to three key differences. The G5 is brighter overall, so it's better suited for bright rooms and delivers a more impactful HDR experience. The G5 also displays brighter and more vibrant colors, giving it punchier colors overall. Finally, the G5...
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Celcius
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I just wish the G series came with a stand. I never wall mount my stuff.LG G5 is out and reviewed, finally OLED is ready for primetime, day and night viewings, SDR and HDR viewings.
Almost doubled the brightness and color volume of G4.
LG G4 vs G5 OLED: Which TV Is Better?
The LG G5 OLED is better than the LG G4 OLED due to three key differences. The G5 is brighter overall, so it's better suited for bright rooms and delivers a more impactful HDR experience. The G5 also displays brighter and more vibrant colors, giving it punchier colors overall. Finally, the G5...
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hououinkyouma00
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Pretty sure G series comes with a stand as of the G4.
Celcius
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Looks like in the US no stand is included
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Famipan
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LG OLED has great motion smoothing if you play in Standard Mode. I haven't tried it on retro consoles but for many 30fps titles it works well, for some games not so good:
- Bloodborne (PS4) looks and plays like 60fps without any noticeable input lag nor ghosting.
- Telltale's Walking Dead Season 4 also OK but minor ghosting.
- RDR2 (PS4) Works well but minor ghosting which can be reduced by avoiding fast camera paning by lowering camera movement speed.
- Mad Max (PS4) is unplayable that way due to severely noticeable input lag on timing window in melee fights
Haven't tried Assassin's Creed which likewise Mad Max might not work well (AC4 has similar fighting system AFAIK)
Gambit2483
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Just know and accept that with OLED, it's not a matter of If, but When, you will get burn-in.
Every single OLED screen (except for Switch) Ive had has experience some level of burn-in. Though my latest model was only a LG C9 so hopefully they have been improved since then...
Every single OLED screen (except for Switch) Ive had has experience some level of burn-in. Though my latest model was only a LG C9 so hopefully they have been improved since then...
Euler007
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I'm a big OLED stan, got three at home (65,55,42), but seriously, you're exaggerating.
Celcius
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I kinda disagree with some of the stuff I read on Rtings. I went to bestbuy today and saw the C5 in person and didn't notice any greenish tint at any angle. Then I saw the Sony Bravia 8 (OLED) and 9 (mini led) side by side. I didn't notice any issues with the viewing angles on the Bravia 9. The main thing I noticed was that the mini LED was noticeably brighter and I actually preferred that over the dimmer OLED right next to it.
Maybe ignorance is bliss or I'm not susceptible to the more minor nitpicks. I just wish Sony had lower input lag like LG and hdmi 2.1 on all 4 inputs.
Maybe ignorance is bliss or I'm not susceptible to the more minor nitpicks. I just wish Sony had lower input lag like LG and hdmi 2.1 on all 4 inputs.
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ozz ex machina
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I've used and abused a CX since 2020 and I have nothing.
I now have a 360hz oled monitor too.
I cannot imagine using other slop at this point.
Sardaukarama
Member
Almost 9 thousand hrs on this C2 which has been used constantly for pc and ps5 and my screen still looks great .
I did suffer burn in on a 2017 model from playin too much destiny so that was on me not looking after it.
Im looking at a G5 but I'm restraining myself ...so far
th4tguy
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I know oled works best with higher frame rates but most movies are 28fps. Do they not have stutter problems?
Was planning on a nice oled for my bedroom which would primarily be used for shows/ movies but was curious.
Bravia 9 in my living room. Went with that because the room gets ton of light.
Was planning on a nice oled for my bedroom which would primarily be used for shows/ movies but was curious.
Bravia 9 in my living room. Went with that because the room gets ton of light.
Celcius
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Any issues with viewing angles or input lag on the Bravia 9?
th4tguy
Member
No, it's a pretty big room too with a big couch so the angles are tested but the picture is fantastic and there really isn't any lag that I can tell
Lagspike_exe
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I guess you mean that movies are 24 FPS. Personally, I cannot watch movies with 0 motion smoothing. They are almost nasuea inducing with the choppiness. At 2/10 motion interpolation, they look great to me. YMMV. Top-level TVs should have perfect judder reduction, so judder itself is not an issue.
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kevboard
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80~90ms of latency = without any noticeable input lag...
that is an insane statement
and yes that's the amount of additional lag an LG TV has with motion smoothing/game mode off. and is also why you can never listen to subjective statements like this if you want actual info about a product.you are essentially doubling the input lag of Bloodborne if you play like this.
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Lagspike_exe
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The only actually useful gaming application of motion interpolation I found was Civ 6 (PS4 version). On Samsung, with VRR output, you cannot do motion interpolation so it would not work on new consoles anyway.80~90ms of latency = without any noticeable input lag...
that is an insane statement
you are essentially doubling the input lag of Bloodborne if you play like this.
Celcius
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Samsung S95F OLED Review (QN55S95FAFXZA, QN65S95FAFXZA, QN77S95FAFXZA, QN83S95FAFXZA)
The Samsung S95F OLED is Samsung's flagship 4k TV for 2025. It replaces the Samsung S95D OLED and sits above the Samsung S90F OLED. It features an improved QD-OL...
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The Samsung S95F looks like an attractive option.
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