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Tokimeki Memorial games this gen?
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Fxp said:
You forgot about Girls Side which came out afterwards, which is understandable. I thought Konami had moved onto licensing manga and using the Tokimemo engine for them (Meine Leibe) rather than doing straight sequels. There's also, scarily, Tokimemo Online these days ("yes of COURSE I'm a 14 year old anime babe, not some scary sweaty reject from Densha Otoko casting...")
These days it's all about guy on guy dating games on PS2, as any casual reader of Dengeki PS2 would tell you (given that about 20 pages per issue are given up to the latest titles). Chicks, apparently dig them.
pancakesandsex
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just got tokimemo 3 myself,
its pretty fun, and funny at times also sells for cheap as hell (dont pay more than 30 for it new / slightly used)
i got the LE for 36$ shipped on ebay.
its pretty fun, and funny at times also sells for cheap as hell (dont pay more than 30 for it new / slightly used)
i got the LE for 36$ shipped on ebay.
belgurdo said:
I did play one game that I could enjoy even without the porn in it. (Which if I remember correctly, it didn't have much to begin with..) Kana ~Imouto~ I think it was called.
Also alot of them visual novel thingies that have /good/ story.. Too bad they'll probably never get english releases. :lol
I dunno, I think the ugly ass 3d cell-shaded girls in Tokimeki 3 killed the franchise. I mean sure there are these spin-offs now but the main series should stay dead until next-gen if they want to go 3d.
Now next-gen if they make all the girls like the Ridge Racer girl CG level, then it could be interesting.
Now next-gen if they make all the girls like the Ridge Racer girl CG level, then it could be interesting.
Do these games actually have any gameplay in them?
Most of the H games I've tried are simply choose on your own adventure branching flipbooks.
The one with an iota of gameplay was True Love, and really that was in the end also like a choose your own adventure type game... except instead of simply clicking on an option you'd go off and level some stat. But it was better than any other H-game I've played before.
If my impressions that the H game genre is like the dating sim genre... but with hentai, then how the hell does anyone derive any sort of pleasure from these games?
It'd be nice if they had map areas, and kinda played like RPGs, but without combat.
Most of the H games I've tried are simply choose on your own adventure branching flipbooks.
The one with an iota of gameplay was True Love, and really that was in the end also like a choose your own adventure type game... except instead of simply clicking on an option you'd go off and level some stat. But it was better than any other H-game I've played before.
If my impressions that the H game genre is like the dating sim genre... but with hentai, then how the hell does anyone derive any sort of pleasure from these games?
It'd be nice if they had map areas, and kinda played like RPGs, but without combat.
I rememeber playing Graduation, no hentai elements, no combat, different locations etc.
Zaptruder said:
pancakesandsex
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only dating sim ive played is tokimeki memorial 3, and that true love game a while back.
i really need to find copies of the "UNIV" games which are h-games but from the trailers i saw appeared to have sim elements.
all of these are japanese games
For the basic clickfest adventure / h-games might i reccomend:
Green Green 1-2 on PC
For something part clickfest adventure and part something else i reccomend:
Baldr Force.exe (also available on ps2 minus the porn + a new voice over (both selectable)) - adventure with a top down sprite based action game portion which kicks ass in every way
Duel Savior Justice - similar to baldr force (same design team) with combat portions sort of like guardian heroes on one line with insane combo potential. Justice expansion adds a harem route
For clean games in the adventure / strategy fusion genre i reccomend:
Sakura Taisen 1-5 (5 is really good so far) - easy but fun characters
Galaxy Angel 1-3 (adventure mode + homeworld like RTS game mode)
i really need to find copies of the "UNIV" games which are h-games but from the trailers i saw appeared to have sim elements.
all of these are japanese games
For the basic clickfest adventure / h-games might i reccomend:
Green Green 1-2 on PC
For something part clickfest adventure and part something else i reccomend:
Baldr Force.exe (also available on ps2 minus the porn + a new voice over (both selectable)) - adventure with a top down sprite based action game portion which kicks ass in every way
Duel Savior Justice - similar to baldr force (same design team) with combat portions sort of like guardian heroes on one line with insane combo potential. Justice expansion adds a harem route
For clean games in the adventure / strategy fusion genre i reccomend:
Sakura Taisen 1-5 (5 is really good so far) - easy but fun characters
Galaxy Angel 1-3 (adventure mode + homeworld like RTS game mode)
I've played a few Japanese-style adventures, H-games, and "dating sims" (ren'ai games) over the years. A few thoughts on some of the games:
Emit series - this is a series of Japanese-style adventure games from Koei that were meant to be used as English teaching aids. The nice thing with these is that you can switch the text back and forth between Japanese and English, good for learning to read Japanese. Decent adventure games in their own right. Released on Saturn and Playstation (and I think SFC).
Roommate 2 - a game where you live with a virtual girl for a week. Made interesting use of the Saturn's clock, so stuff happened in the game in real time.
Doukyusei/Doukyusei II/Kakyusei - these are the games that basically started the whole dating sim genre. Very nice art style from Elf (a little different from most ren'ai games). I think aside from the PC-FX version of Doukyusei 2, all the console ports had the H-portions toned down or removed. I haven't played any of the PC versions, but if I remember right the Saturn versions were yellow label games. The PC-FX of version of Doukyusei 2 was uncut (at least it had more H-scenes than the Saturn version).
Blue Breaker - this is actually more an RPG with some dating sim elements, although the RPG side is kind of weak. I had a lot of difficulty trying to play this game as I couldn't figure out how to "trigger" things in the game story. For PC-FX, Saturn, and PSX.
Tokimeki Memorial/Tokimeki Memorial 2 - yeah, as said earlier in the thread I think where Konami went wrong with this series was in the cel-shaded character designs for part 3. I haven't played part 3 and don't really have an interest in it mainly because the artwork looks terrible. The first two games are classics though, and the second one is just a huge game with less frustrating gameplay than the first. First game available on PC Engine, SFC, Saturn, and PSX. Second game PSX only.
Sakura Taisen series - this is the series I would recommend for people wanting to try out a bishoujo game. Basically an interactive anime with light (very light) dating-sim and strategy RPG elements. Probably has one of the highest budgets of any bishoujo game too, which certainly shows in the end product. Very high production values with excellent visual design, music, and voice acting. The first three games are the best (I have not played part 5 yet). First two games available for Saturn, DC, PC, and PS2 (not sure if ST2 is on PS2 yet). Third game for DC, PC, and PS2. Fourth game for DC and PS2 (I think?). Fifth game is on PS2.
Welcome to Pia Carrot/Can Can Bunny - along with Doukyusei, these are about the only real H-games I've played. As before most of the console ports were toned down (I played the PC-FX versions, which I believe are uncut). The most I can say about these games is that at least they're not the tentacle rape/sex slave type =/
Angelique - basically a dating sim for girls, heh. An interesting game that mixes god game elements (think Populous or Actraiser) with trying to get a happy ending with a bunch of beautiful men (and no, this is not a yaoi game, the central character is a girl). Whether you're a guy who is secure in his sexualitylol) or female, this is a fun game to play and shows that yes, games of this type can have actual gameplay. There's a whole series of these games, of which I've only played the first (Angelique Special) and the fourth game (Requiem of Heaven, which is an actual RPG).
There's also the "raising" or "bring-up sim" type of game. Princess Maker is probably the most famous example, but I found the PM games to be rather dull (it's very easy to figure out how to raise various stats, at which point every game just becomes a tedious exercise in tweaking stats to get a new ending). However, there is a game on the N64 (!!!) called Wonder Project J-2, that is definitely worth getting for anyone who wants to play a bring-up game. In it you have to guide a robot on her journey to try to become human. Utterly charming throughout with terrific character designs and setting (the game reminds me of a Miyazaki movie).
Emit series - this is a series of Japanese-style adventure games from Koei that were meant to be used as English teaching aids. The nice thing with these is that you can switch the text back and forth between Japanese and English, good for learning to read Japanese. Decent adventure games in their own right. Released on Saturn and Playstation (and I think SFC).
Roommate 2 - a game where you live with a virtual girl for a week. Made interesting use of the Saturn's clock, so stuff happened in the game in real time.
Doukyusei/Doukyusei II/Kakyusei - these are the games that basically started the whole dating sim genre. Very nice art style from Elf (a little different from most ren'ai games). I think aside from the PC-FX version of Doukyusei 2, all the console ports had the H-portions toned down or removed. I haven't played any of the PC versions, but if I remember right the Saturn versions were yellow label games. The PC-FX of version of Doukyusei 2 was uncut (at least it had more H-scenes than the Saturn version).
Blue Breaker - this is actually more an RPG with some dating sim elements, although the RPG side is kind of weak. I had a lot of difficulty trying to play this game as I couldn't figure out how to "trigger" things in the game story. For PC-FX, Saturn, and PSX.
Tokimeki Memorial/Tokimeki Memorial 2 - yeah, as said earlier in the thread I think where Konami went wrong with this series was in the cel-shaded character designs for part 3. I haven't played part 3 and don't really have an interest in it mainly because the artwork looks terrible. The first two games are classics though, and the second one is just a huge game with less frustrating gameplay than the first. First game available on PC Engine, SFC, Saturn, and PSX. Second game PSX only.
Sakura Taisen series - this is the series I would recommend for people wanting to try out a bishoujo game. Basically an interactive anime with light (very light) dating-sim and strategy RPG elements. Probably has one of the highest budgets of any bishoujo game too, which certainly shows in the end product. Very high production values with excellent visual design, music, and voice acting. The first three games are the best (I have not played part 5 yet). First two games available for Saturn, DC, PC, and PS2 (not sure if ST2 is on PS2 yet). Third game for DC, PC, and PS2. Fourth game for DC and PS2 (I think?). Fifth game is on PS2.
Welcome to Pia Carrot/Can Can Bunny - along with Doukyusei, these are about the only real H-games I've played. As before most of the console ports were toned down (I played the PC-FX versions, which I believe are uncut). The most I can say about these games is that at least they're not the tentacle rape/sex slave type =/
Angelique - basically a dating sim for girls, heh. An interesting game that mixes god game elements (think Populous or Actraiser) with trying to get a happy ending with a bunch of beautiful men (and no, this is not a yaoi game, the central character is a girl). Whether you're a guy who is secure in his sexuality
lol) or female, this is a fun game to play and shows that yes, games of this type can have actual gameplay. There's a whole series of these games, of which I've only played the first (Angelique Special) and the fourth game (Requiem of Heaven, which is an actual RPG).There's also the "raising" or "bring-up sim" type of game. Princess Maker is probably the most famous example, but I found the PM games to be rather dull (it's very easy to figure out how to raise various stats, at which point every game just becomes a tedious exercise in tweaking stats to get a new ending). However, there is a game on the N64 (!!!) called Wonder Project J-2, that is definitely worth getting for anyone who wants to play a bring-up game. In it you have to guide a robot on her journey to try to become human. Utterly charming throughout with terrific character designs and setting (the game reminds me of a Miyazaki movie).