You are using the wrong metric.And yet PS5 has sold more than 5:1 compared to Xbox this quarter dear Tom.
Ah yes, TPNDE* Disease, I see it all the time on GAF
I adore nintendo. They operate in their entirely unique hemisphere of awesome.
Then I don't understand why you would think "the market" is shrinking when you can simply add up Sony + Nintendo and see the console market is as healthy as it has ever been
I do forecasts on daily basis for more complex products than consoles. You obviously are showing you bias. Stock market companies always try to show positive numbets or spin figures so they look as such, this is to please investors. Otherwise everyone would be under projecting to make sure they overdeliver. ‘Underpromise and overdeliver” works in media planning when you want to impress the client, but it doesn’t work in stock market - publicly listed companies as missing targets and estimating decreases leads to drop in share values and company capitalisation. This makes shareholders unhappy. 29% projected decrease is quite substantial and if Sony publishes this in their official financial statements it means that they don’t see anything that might reverse that Short term. Long term is other thing completely.
Exxxxxactly.
Growth over 20.8m? Who in this thread expressed that?
Read post about boost pro console will give Sony etc. Many mentioning GTA6 etc.
You don’t know what I do for a living, but but are biased so much that cannot accept different point of view. Look at Sony stock in the last month, year, 5 days etc. Also remember that the initial target was 25M consoles which was adjusted to 21M which was still missed by small amount but still, it was missed. At the same time they had the best results in history driven by software Helldivers 2 which is best selling sony game 12m units in 12 weeks. This will only push Sony to do day 1 on PC and more GaaS, the whole fubar with require]ing PSN might impact them moving forward as well. I think that that 18M forecast takes into consideration that more day 1 games will be released on `PC moving forward.
So.... they're going to sell more PS5s with a Pro console and GTA VI. Yeah, that's common sense, not: "Many Sony fans in this thread expecting continuous growth".
Stellar blade (which awesome by the way. Everyone should buy it) is this q1 , not part of q4
That's because apart from a few great games we haven't had the great titles that truly push these machines yet. Yes Xbox is not selling great but they have a formidable amount of first-party games in development and I'm expecting some amazing games to come from them over the next 2 years.
And even then it was team 1 out of 2. Is Sony teams are mismanaged, boy Xbox teams are utterly dead. Oh wait...
That's what we've been hoping for quite some time now. But game after game disappoint. Halo Infinite, Forza Motorsport, Starfield, Redfall... They have a ton of studios now but do they deliver? They mismanage their own studios, and the answer is not buying even more studios but learing how to manage those you already own.
Where are they then? And Naughty Dog were put on something they had no experience or passion for. They make outstanding narrative driven SP games and they were supposed to make a MP component for TLOU2 not a standalone GaaS title. Bungie hit with big layoffs and reduced profits.
The hilarious thing is Sony's drop is off of the best 4th quarter EVER, which means this 4th quarter is still damn good compared to any other's from the past. Xbox, on the other hand, is down from a very bad 4th quarter last year, so is even worse. But, those green rats are deciding to stay onboard a sinking ship and point their pistols at a warship that they perceive has a small chink in the side, saying the console market is doomed.PS5 down 29%. Xbox down 25%
Look Xbox is better
Apart from Redfall none of those games are terrible, they need or needed some work but nowhere near a catastrophe. I suppose you could completely ignore the Forza Horizon games, Flightsim, Psychonauts 2.
What remakes or remakes of remasters? Apart from Insomniac its been awful and you know it.
If the Price of the base model stays like that ps4 ps5 will almost the same sales wise in the end.But if the lower the price of the ps5 I think the ps5 will outsell the ps4
They did not meet expectations. I loved Halo Infinite, think it had a great campaign. But it did not succeed in the way Microsoft had anticipated and the way it had needed to in order increase hype for the franchise.
What a statement. We do know that even with overall less units sold on FP software, they've been vastly growing in terms of revenue this gen.
Who has? And revenue growth did not save Xbox.
The market isn't shrinking, only the Xbox market share is shrinking.
So?
I feel like it's very odd that you point to a FY where GoW Ragnarök released as an indication of general market trends. Revenue is such a loose term. Remember how Xbox' revenue skyrocketed entirely due to acquisition of Activision? Revenue is also boosted by subscriptions and MTX. I find it worrying that PS5 has the lowest attach rate in PS history. Not even PS1/PS2 were this low despite rampant piracy. I think it's unhealthy that a console has only 1.2 games sold per console. Something is wrong here.
Read second point, from FY 2022 Consolidated Financial Results.
So?
