i think a lot of what you saw WAS gameplay.
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Tomb Raider E3 Gameplay Trailer - March 5, 2013 release date
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i think a lot of what you saw WAS gameplay.
SentientStone
Member
Looking good, was never into Tomb Raider but this one looks very nice... like a grittier Uncharted with more female moaning.
Great potential for QTE's!
Sentenza
Member
Sorry, I criticized parts of this trailer myself but these arguments sound just bogus to me...Is this game supposed to be before Lara became a explorer, she's way to whiny and doesn't at all show the courage and strong character personality of the old games
She being unprepared to go through a LIVING HELL should make her a weak character? Really?
In that same circumstance most of us would be in a corner whispering, moaning and crying under some state of shock.
And she's supposed to be the inexperienced Lara, not the one forged in hundreds of adventures.
Also... "strong character and personality of the previous games"?
What personality? She's always been a cardboard character so far.
Hot Coldman
Banned
God I hope there's seriously not a "You got raped by a bandit" fail state. :lol
Looks good! 2013 though, man. 2012 holiday gonna be DULL
Looks good! 2013 though, man. 2012 holiday gonna be DULL
Rodney McKay
Member
Ha, I like how only her pigtail is affected by gravity.
If cinematic gameplay is good for something, it's highlighting those little annoying details.
MuddyDonut
Member
I am very happy about this.
Absoludacrous
Member
Said in the other thread, but I like the idea of a character who has a hard time killing people, even if it's just for a little while. That's one thing Uncharted could take from this game.
Yeah of course it's not about the character here, let's be clear, but the point is that NOW the gameplay seems to revolve around this idea of a fragile weak girl who(supposedly) gets tougher with time.
Ok, whatever, that's fine with me and i don't really care, but what i care is that Tomb Raider, to me, was about exploring big areas, exotic places with platforming and decent puzzles, a sense of isolation and timeless-ness.
I hated the constant chatting in Legend and Underworld, i hated the stupid London, Venice, Tokyo levels, i hated shooting dozens of mafia or Yakuza goons, that was not unique or interesting.
The series DID need a reboot, but in what direction? Here i see what i've seen countless times already: try hard mature cinematics, scripted sequences without consequences (that get dull at the second run) and a whole bunch of crap that would've worked in The Last of Us, but i don't what is doing here, explosions, bullet-time.
I've played this game already this generation, a million times, i was hoping for something that would've picked up on the more unique elements of TR, as i said.
I'll wait for MS coinference, as i said, but with very little confidence, since even a 50-50 ratio would be fucked up, imo.
She was mostly a conduit for the player, in the style of Link or Gordon Freeman.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If you fail the sexual advances QTE on purpose, does it still count as rape?
These are the questions video games can answer.
Make it happen, Crystal Dynamics!
Thanks for the gifs Plywood. Looks great.
My only concern is how it will take Lara to mature. I didn't really like uber badass Lara Croft, and am glad she's more realistic here. But she's getting that hell beaten out of her throughout the whole trailer. Surely Lara will develop into a tougher and more mature person as the game goes on, but hopefully that doesn't take too long. Can't be helpless forever.
Personally, I hope she starts kicking some ass starting with that rapist guy.
My only concern is how it will take Lara to mature. I didn't really like uber badass Lara Croft, and am glad she's more realistic here. But she's getting that hell beaten out of her throughout the whole trailer. Surely Lara will develop into a tougher and more mature person as the game goes on, but hopefully that doesn't take too long. Can't be helpless forever.
Personally, I hope she starts kicking some ass starting with that rapist guy.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
Looking pretty good, sure it's returning the favor and borrowing some from Uncharted but that's how products get better plus this is an open world game. Been playing Tomb Raider games since PS1 and though the voice is different its not bad, it won't bother me in the least bit. Also think people are way overreacting to the grunts, not that big of a deal. Perhaps simply because we haven't seen many action/adventure/survival games with a female protagonist.
March 5th is a bit of a bummer but I probably wouldn't of got a chance to play it this year anyways. Plenty of other products to keep us all busy in the mean time.
March 5th is a bit of a bummer but I probably wouldn't of got a chance to play it this year anyways. Plenty of other products to keep us all busy in the mean time.
I don't count QTE's as gameplay
The combat scene with the axe looked great, though. I want more of that.
I think they mean non-"cinematic gameplay".
linko9
Member
If this game was 90% deer-shootin', I might get it. As it is, it looks like this game is exactly what I don't want in a game. Taking the "cinematic" gameplay of uncharted to a whole new level. Of course, this is just a trailer, but I don't have high hopes for the game itself. Which is a shame because it looks amazing visually.
WilyRook
Member
My thoughts exactly.
Well that's just you. It was my fist complaint since I saw the first footage, she wouldnt fucking stop talking and vocally reacting to EVERYTHING.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I think the fact that people are annoyed with a 2 minute trailer says more than anything. She's really whiny and noisy in general.
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I think this shows some promise.
+ The part where Lara was sneaking around with her hands tied behind her back really appealed to me. I like the idea of the stealth aspect being introduced at the very least as a result of Lara being vulnerable, and not some high-score chasing, or "I don't want to fight dudes right now" tangent.
+ The idea that she may have to set up camp, find supplies, get water and food, etc in order to progress is really appealing. It's a refreshing take on upgrades, again playing to young Lara's lack of experience in these situations (like most people have).
+ Some real nice animations.
+ If this is open-world, that'd be splendid. I do wonder though because of all the clearly scripted sequences...
+ And this may seem creepy, but I really appreciated the... uh... uncomfortable touching part? I've always been a bit nagged that villains are portrayed as thieves and murderers and tyrants, and blahblahblah, but almost never inappropriate towards women, in the way evil men are. That scene gives the universe a bit of verisimilitude, and really adds to the theme threaded through the rest of the game that this is Lara before she becomes some ultra-confident and capable superhero.
On the other hand...
Way too much gore. It's cheap and playing to the lowest common denominator.
I don't think it looks all that good? Too brown, nothing stands out, everything is real blasse and uninspired.
Terrible voice work; on all fronts, from what I can tell.
Can't tell if fun.
+ The part where Lara was sneaking around with her hands tied behind her back really appealed to me. I like the idea of the stealth aspect being introduced at the very least as a result of Lara being vulnerable, and not some high-score chasing, or "I don't want to fight dudes right now" tangent.
+ The idea that she may have to set up camp, find supplies, get water and food, etc in order to progress is really appealing. It's a refreshing take on upgrades, again playing to young Lara's lack of experience in these situations (like most people have).
+ Some real nice animations.
+ If this is open-world, that'd be splendid. I do wonder though because of all the clearly scripted sequences...
+ And this may seem creepy, but I really appreciated the... uh... uncomfortable touching part? I've always been a bit nagged that villains are portrayed as thieves and murderers and tyrants, and blahblahblah, but almost never inappropriate towards women, in the way evil men are. That scene gives the universe a bit of verisimilitude, and really adds to the theme threaded through the rest of the game that this is Lara before she becomes some ultra-confident and capable superhero.
On the other hand...
Way too much gore. It's cheap and playing to the lowest common denominator.
I don't think it looks all that good? Too brown, nothing stands out, everything is real blasse and uninspired.
Terrible voice work; on all fronts, from what I can tell.
Can't tell if fun.
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Can someone explain to me why QTE are not considered gameplay?
I am hoping they just went this route for the trailer. I think it is okay to have this sort of stuff in the game as long as there is good exploration and platforming in those open hubs and that is a large chunk of the game. They said there is gear gating. So I am hoping we get a better idea of what is in-store with all of that at E3. Though I am guessing the MS demo would be something like the trailer right? Isn't that more of a typical conference demo? I need to see the other side of this game.
imho those are just interactive cutscenes.
Discotheque
Banned
I loved the cover reveal on Game Informer and the screens back in the day. But this in footage, with that voice, and those annoying "movie-like Uncharted" scripted scenes...boring. I'll probably pass on this unless I hear the gameplay is stellar and there's a lot of platforming/puzzles.
Also it's damn near comical how much she's getting hurt in that trailer. Every 10 seconds she's falling or getting tackled.
Also it's damn near comical how much she's getting hurt in that trailer. Every 10 seconds she's falling or getting tackled.
Well, neither will you!
I get that angle, but there's a point where you need to sacrifice "realistic" in order to get what works in a game. A character constantly speaking in a whiny matter over any situation just doesnt work in a game, no matter how realistic it is.
More like, another 6-7 months.
I totally read this in Vash's voice lol.
Infinite Justice
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I watched the vid and just saw uncharted minus the massive amount of shooting.
Feels like a weird "gone full circle" thing here
Feels like a weird "gone full circle" thing here
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
So good!
I was impressed, but the criticisms are very warranted. I think visually, it is ridiculously pretty. But the gore is really brutal- it feels sadistic at times.
I'm excited for the open world structure- maybe that bow/arrow will be used to hunt for food/survive in the wilderness, rather than solely combat? If there are heavily scripted scenes, maybe they'll occur as you progress in the world. I hope that exploration remains intact. I'm optimistic (and I consider myself a huge fan of the series...)
Kudos to The Last of Us shop- it is too perfect for words!
THE LESS COMBAT, THE BETTER.
I'm excited for the open world structure- maybe that bow/arrow will be used to hunt for food/survive in the wilderness, rather than solely combat? If there are heavily scripted scenes, maybe they'll occur as you progress in the world. I hope that exploration remains intact. I'm optimistic (and I consider myself a huge fan of the series...)
Kudos to The Last of Us shop- it is too perfect for words!
THE LESS COMBAT, THE BETTER.
From what they've shown of the game the voice work is terrible and annoying.
fair enough mang, but im just judging what they decided to show so far