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Too Early for GOTY predictions? Naw...

Vigilant Walrus said:
How can it not be a contender?

Its like the only major release this year that had;

A) a great story

B) lived up to the hype

C) Just great outstanding gameplay. best real-time combat implantation in a "RPG" game.

Oh dear.


That said, it's fourth in my list.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
Mass Effect 2 had fine combat.

I like the combat too, but I wouldn't say it's what I come to the game for. (In fact, the shooting in ME2 is better than that in RDR, personally.)

ShockingAlberto said:
Until a scion was on screen. Then it quickly became clear that it wasn't always adequate combat.

God, yeah. This.

Haaaaaaaate that thing.

Fimbulvetr said:
Oh yes, right. That's still a major problem.

Personally I think it could all work out, depending on where they go with the third one.
 
stupei said:
Wait, people are actually trashing Mass Effect 2 for its combat now?

Hint: the combat is not what was good about Red Dead either.

RDR combat actually has good weapon impact thanks to euthoria, ME2 combat can't decide between real weapon or pewpew.
 
stupei said:
Personally I think it could all work out, depending on where they go with the third one.

Well that would still make ME2 a bad story.



Oh and which ones were scions again? The floaty ones?

Edit: Oh they're the ones with the shoulder cannons. Fuck those guys.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
I predict Fallout: New Vegas will be my personal game of the year for being awesome and a huge improvement over Fallout 3 - first and most important in the choice of yellow rather than grey for the hazy color pallette. So much more pleasing to look at while beating up giant ants with a sledgehammer.

However, I'm guessing most GOTY awards will go to Read Dead Redemption or Mass Effect 2, in spite of their whole not coming out in fall deal.

Why does it matter if they didn't come out in the fall?
 
Shinjitsu said:
"oh you're a Spartan teh bad ass, oh u Spartans we named a lazer after u, u Spartan badass u save the galaxy we respect u so much...." Come the fuck on.

Except it's not true in Reach, Spartan IIIs are far from invincible.
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I vote Bayonetta

Runners up: Super Mario Galaxy 2, Halo Reach, Mass effect 2 and Red Dead Redemption. Maybe Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
Well that would still make ME2 a bad story.

"Bad" is such a subjective term(,man). Not having much of a plot doesn't make a story bad. Watchmen didn't have a lot of plot, most of the time was spent exploring the psychology and backstory of the characters and setting. A story just needs to have something to compensate for the lack of plot. I'd say that ME2 did exactly that with awesome characters and unforgettable dialogue. Whether you agree that was enough to make up for the lack of plot is subjective.
 
College makes me to busy to play games... I just realized that the last game I beat this year was pokemon heart gold, and that was back in april... I really want to play most of the major games this year... (bayonetta, cod:blackops, fallout nv, donkey kong country, et cetera, et cetera).... Should be a very busy break :D
 
Anything that was lacking the ME2 plot was more then made up by the outstanding characters and dialogue.

Kittonwy said:
RDR combat actually has good weapon impact thanks to euthoria, ME2 combat can't decide between real weapon or pewpew.

Yes because people wearing armor and shields should just fall over right away.
 
Generic said:
"Bad" is such a subjective term(,man). Not having much of a plot doesn't make a story bad. Watchmen didn't have a lot of plot, most of the time was spent exploring the psychology and backstory of the characters and setting. A story just needs to have something to compensate for the lack of plot. I'd say that ME2 did exactly that with awesome characters and unforgettable dialogue. Whether you agree that was enough to make up for the lack of plot is subjective.

The stupid beginning(Shepard dieing) and stupid ending(T1-Reaper) don't help.

Also very few of the characters are reeeeaaaaaally that good.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
The stupid beginning(Shepard dieing) and stupid ending(T1-Reaper) don't help.

Also very few of the characters are reeeeaaaaaally that good.


Dude.

Come on.

Personally, ME2's cast > ME1's cast. By a lot.
And Elcor Hamlet is better than anything in either game.
 
Generic said:
I'd say that ME2 did exactly that with awesome characters and unforgettable dialogue.Whether you agree that was enough to make up for the lack of plot is subjective..
No its not
 
Fimbulvetr said:
The stupid beginning(Shepard dieing) and stupid ending(T1-Reaper) don't help.

Also very few of the characters are reeeeaaaaaally that good.

I disagree. I liked pretty much all of the main characters outside of Jacob and Miranda. Thane and Mordin are too awesome to ignore
 
stupei said:
Dude.

Come on.

Personally, ME2's cast > ME1's cast. By a lot.
And Elcor Hamlet is better than anything in either game.

Well duh ME2's cast is better.

After all, ME1's cast is only 2 characters, 3 info kiosks, and a *shudder* Kaidan.

ME2 has Mordin and Legion, and even the characters I don't care about as much are better than everyone in ME1 who isn't named Wrex or Ashely.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
Well duh ME2's cast is better.

After all, ME1's cast is only 2 characters, 3 info kiosks, and a *shudder* Kaidan.

ME2 has Mordin and Legion, and even the characters I don't care about as much are better than everyone in ME1 who isn't named Wrex or Ashely.

Even ME2 Liara is better than the Liara in ME1.
At least in the DLC.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
The stupid beginning(Shepard dieing) and stupid ending(T1-Reaper) don't help.

Also very few of the characters are reeeeaaaaaally that good.

You'll have to expand on why either of those were stupid. Shepard dying was pure plot device, but when you are in a universe with as many technological advancements as ME, it doesn't break my suspension of disbelief that they can bring Shepard back from the dead. And it's not like it was easy either, they kept making a huge deal out of how it cost them billions and years of time, with no guarantee that it'd even work (iirc). As for the ending, if you're complaint about it was that it looked like the terminator, then I don't know what to tell you, because it's just a fucking design, who gives a fuck, seriously. Personally, I thought it was a great explanation for why the reapers do what they do.

And, again, that's just your opinion, but Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Legion, Jack, Thane... I loved them. The character stories are great. Maybe not all of them are relevant to the whole saving the galaxy thing, but they are relevant to these character's development. I wouldn't care much about saving the universe if I was doing it just to save this vague notion of the human race. No, these characters make it personal. I feel for Mordin, with what he has to put up with, never really being sure whether he did the right thing. Garrus is one of the most affable characters I've ever seen in a game, with his cool personality, but it truly resonated when you get to the scene where you have to kill the one who betrayed him, but you stop and decide to hear him out. Jack is a horribly broken little girl. Legion is epic lulz. I can't seem to find a solution that everyone is happy with regarding the Quarian-Geth situation. I want to save these people. I don't give a shit in most games, but I want to save the ME universe.

Maybe you disagree, but you can't call this an objectively bad story.


daxter01 said:
No its not


Alright. Then it DOES make up for the lack of plot. If you disgree, you're wrong. Problem solved.
 
Generic said:
You'll have to expand on why either of those were stupid. Shepard dying was pure plot device, but when you are in a universe with as many technological advancements as ME, it doesn't break my suspension of disbelief that they can bring Shepard back from the dead. And it's not like it was easy either, they kept making a huge deal out of how it cost them billions and years of time, with no guarantee that it'd even work (iirc). As for the ending, if you're complaint about it was that it looked like the terminator, then I don't know what to tell you, because it's just a fucking design, who gives a fuck, seriously. Personally, I thought it was a great explanation for why the reapers do what they do.

Maybe you disagree, but you can't call this an objectively bad story.

And you can't call this an objectively good story.

Opinions are subjective! :O



The death thing is stupid because, even in setting where it's plausible, defying death(unless it has severe consequences) cheapens the weight of death.

Not to mention they expect us to believe that a large chunk of him survived atmospheric re-entry somehow.



The reaper thing is just.... I actually can't really describe this one well. It just really rubs me the wrong way.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
And you can't call this an objectively good story.

Opinions are subjective! :O

Considering how you insistant you were on telling people that ME2 was a bad story, I wasn't sure you were aware.

Fimbulvetr said:
The death thing is stupid because, even in setting where it's plausible, defying death(unless it has sever consequences) cheapens the weight of death.

Not to mention they expect us to believe that a large chunk of him survived atmospheric re-entry somehow.

I was under the impression that they literally found him in space and brought him in.

Anyway, I don't mind it in this case because there obviously were severe consequences, and with the amount of effort that it took to do it, they can't just have it done to anyone with a snap of a finger. This was a one time thing, and Shepards real lucky he's just that important.

Though how the fuck they brought his brain cells back to life is beyond me, unless the Collectors left RIGHT after they shot the Normandy and Cerberus was on the scene the second they left.

Fimbulvetr said:
The reaper thing is just.... I actually can't really describe this one well. It just really rubs me the wrong way.
I disagree, but I can accept that. My pet peeve would have been if they had made them too human, by making their motivation be one of greed or vengence of some sort.
But it's reproduction, something every thing seems to strive for. Even God was lonely at some point and decided to make us.
So I think this is a great explanation for why they do what they do, giving them understandable reasons for doing it while still maintaining their godlike image.

In conclusion, I respect your opinion and all that crap, but strongly disagree.
 
Super Mario Galaxy 2 has my vote as of now. Epic Mickey or Donkey Kong could sway it maybe but they have their work cut out for them.
 
Generic said:
Considering how you insistant you were on telling people that ME2 was a bad story, I wasn't sure you were aware.

I'm sure of my opinion, oh noes. I'll be sure to add IMO after nearly every sentence now.

Generic said:
I was under the impression that they literally found him in space and brought him in.

Nope, shle hit a planet with shler face after being knocked toward it by an explosion and exposed to the vacuum of space.

Generic said:
Anyway, I don't mind it in this case because there obviously were severe consequences, and with the amount of effort that it took to do it, they can't just have it done to anyone with a snap of a finger. This was a one time thing, and Shepards real lucky he's just that important.

What consequences?

Generic said:
I disagree, but I can accept that. My pet peeve would have been if they had made them too human, by making their motivation be one of greed or vengence of some sort.
But it's reproduction, something every thing seems to strive for. Even God was lonely at some point and decided to make us.
So I think this is a great explanation for why they do what they do, giving them understandable reasons for doing it while still maintaining their godlike image.

Godlike? Eh, whatever.
 
There we go.
So someone likes Mass Effect 2 enough to declare it his/her own/personal choice for game of the year.

What's wrong with that?
The thread is about predictions and personal choices.

But is like "Nah-ah! Your opinion is wrong, my opinion is right!!"
Some liked the story, some didn't. Some liked the gameplay, some didn't. But you not liking it, doesn't mean that everyone didn't.

Stop quoting others opinions and focus on yours. Not agree with ME2, cool. Move along. But engaging in endless quoting about why "that opinion" is wrong, on a thread that is mostly about opinions is nonsense.

(not pointing at anyone directly, but seems some people have more fun disagreeing with others, just because)
 
Looking back at last year's GotY thread, there were so many great games to choose from... this year I'm having trouble picking one game that I'd put at the same level as any of my choices last year. Civ 5, Mass Effect 2, Castlevania, Bioshock 2 were all pretty big disappointments for me.

I'm reluctantly giving my big votes to Red Dead and SSF4 (...and I'm still waiting on the PC version of Super Meat Boy.). I guess nothing wowed me this year compared to Demon's Souls, Batman: AA, L4D2 and Uncharted 2 from last year. Oh man that was a great year.
 
fernoca said:
There we go.
So someone likes Mass Effect 2 enough to declare it his/her own/personal choice for game of the year.What's wrong with that?
The thread is about predictions and personal choices.

Okay, and? We're just discussing our opinions like reasonable people.

I'm not looking down on him just because I think he's wrong, and yes I think he's wrong. It's called my opinion. I'm as entitled to mine as he is to his.

Take your fascist views on what you think should or shouldn't be posted here elsewhere.

fernoca said:
But is like "Nah-ah! Your opinion is wrong, my opinion is right!!"
Some liked the story, some didn't. Some liked the gameplay, some didn't. But you not liking it, doesn't mean that everyone didn't.

And just because I think the story is bad doesn't mean:1) I don't like the game or 2) don't think people can call it their game of the year.

This post makes so many blatant assumptions; it's hilarious.
 
Fimbulvetr, I wasn't even talking about you. And I made it clear in my post.

All this debacle about Mass Effect 2 started, because:
kai3345 said:
What the fuck @ ppl saying ME2 as a major contender?

ME2 was good, but not GOTY good.
Then others started talking about gameplay, story and dissecting the game.

But hey, whatever. Thanks for analizing me too. :lol :lol
 
Fimbulvetr said:
I'm sure of my opinion, oh noes.

I'm sure of my opinion too. I'm sure that I think that God of War is the most horrendously overrated series in the entirety of gaming. Complete mediocrity at best in everything it does besides production values. I'm positive that I absolutely hate this series with every fiber of my being for all the QTE bullshit we had to suffer through for years because it made it popular. I'm sure as fuck that I want to slap each and every single person in here who placed it ahead of Bayonetta.

But if there is one thing I've learned, it's utterly pointless to do nothing but quote people and tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with your opinion. If you want to make an argument for why ME2 doesn't deserve GotY, go ahead. That's actual discussion. Simply screaming YOUR WRONG! at people every time they answer ME2 is wasted space.

Fimbulvetr said:
Nope, shle hit a planet with shler face after being knocked toward it by an explosion and exposed to the vacuum of space.

*shrug* Okay, I guess that's pretty implausible then. But I understand their reasons for doing it, and I don't feel that the revival came cheaply, so it doesn't bug me too much.

What consequences?

Well, consequences for Cerberus anyway. They spent BILLIONS of credits and years trying to revive me when that money could have gone to other things, possibly more efficient things...and in the end, I ended up screwing Cerberus anyway, so the Illusive man got kind of boned there. His huge project, and now it's gone.


Godlike? Eh, whatever.
I got that feeling off them. Besides the incredible power they wield, they feel as though they have access to knowledge you cannot fathom, and with how they are
literally made up of entire species
, I can totally buy that. They are certainly more godlike than the retards at Mt. Olympus.


fernoca said:
There we go.
So someone likes Mass Effect 2 enough to declare it his/her own/personal choice for game of the year.

What's wrong with that?
The thread is about predictions and personal choices.

But is like "Nah-ah! Your opinion is wrong, my opinion is right!!"
Some liked the story, some didn't. Some liked the gameplay, some didn't. But you not liking it, doesn't mean that everyone didn't.

What the kingdom hearts guy said. We're discussing our opinions civilly, neither getting angry or putting the other down, but not giving up our viewpoints either. I just think the way he's going about it is inefficient.
 
fernoca said:
Fimbulvetr, I wasn't even talking about you.

All this debacle about Mass Effect 2 started, because:

Then others started talking about gameplay, story and dissecting the game.

But hey, whatever.

I really don't care if your were referring to me specifically. That people disagreeing with each other apparently causes you distress is alarming.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
I really don't care if your were referring to me specifically. That people disagreeing with each other apparently causes you distress is alarming.
Distress?Alarming? I'm fine. :lol
What sucks, as others have said; is the derail this thread is taking because of that. So instead of people talking about possible candidates of GOTY and why, the focus is "why Mass Effect 2 can't be a GOTY, to some".

Generic said:
What the kingdom hearts guy said. We're discussing our opinions civilly, neither getting angry or putting the other down, but not giving up our viewpoints either. I just think the way he's going about it is inefficient.
Wasn't talking about him (already said it :p), already posted the post that started it all. There are a few later that continued the same.

At least both of you are engaging into actual discussion, a few just quoted with "No", to each reason someone listed as to why ME2 was that person's candidate for GOTY. With no other reason or nothing not add.

Which was the reason of my post. That by coincidence, Fimbu's post was above mine by a 2 minutes difference, is another thing.
 
Generic said:
I'm sure as fuck that I want to slap each and every single person in here who placed it ahead of Bayonetta.

I.... I think I love you.

But if there is one thing I've learned, it's utterly pointless to do nothing but quote people and tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with your opinion. If you want to make an argument for why ME2 doesn't deserve GotY, go ahead. That's actual discussion. Simply screaming YOUR WRONG! at people every time they answer ME2 is wasted space.

I have never once posted on GAF under the delusion that my opinion is absolute. People shouldn't have to sugarcoat that they think(THEY THINK I said) someone else is wrong for disagreeing with them. That is the very nature of differing opinions. Now if someone called you stupid for believing in something or whatever, sure they suck.

Well, consequences for Cerberus anyway. They spent BILLIONS of credits and years trying to revive me when that money could have gone to other things, possibly more efficient things...and in the end, I ended up screwing Cerberus anyway, so the Illusive man got kind of boned there. His huge project, and now it's gone.

I meant consequences for the person being revived: Zombification, memory loss, maybe the resurrection isn't permanent?

Besides, Cerberus is he 3rd most rich and powerful organization in the galaxy; it never really seemed like a big deal.

I got that feeling off them. Besides the incredible power they wield, they feel as though they have access to knowledge you cannot fathom, and with how they are , I can totally buy that. They are certainly more godlike than the retards at Mt. Olympus.

They're a force to be reckoned with for sure but after two game's they feel less threatening, you know? At least an individual reaper.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
I.... I think I love you.
:D

Fimbulvetr said:
I have never once posted on GAF under the delusion that my opinion is absolute. People shouldn't have to sugarcoat that they think(THEY THINK I said) someone else is wrong for disagreeing with them. That is the very nature of differing opinions. Now if someone called you stupid for believing in something or whatever, sure they suck.

That's not what I'm talking about. Go ahead and be as blunt as you like, but what is the point of post 636? You're not going to accomplish anything by doing that. No one is going to be convinced by that post that maybe the ME2 story wasn't as great as they thought it was or that their opinion might need re-evaluation. There are already others who said that ME2 didn't deserve the crown, so you're not saying anything that others haven't already said. Your post there was literally a +1 for the "ME2 is not GotY" camp. If you wanted to really express your opinon, why not give your reasons as to why you thought that person was wrong and make an actual discussion out of it instead?


Fimbulvetr said:
I meant consequences for the person being revived: Zombification, memory loss, maybe the resurrection isn't permanent?

Besides, Cerberus is he 3rd most rich and powerful organization in the galaxy; it never really seemed like a big deal.

The cost was so huge that even they were hit hard by the costs of it. But yes, I'll concede that the resurrection could have been handled better. Still, Shepards biggest loss would be the years he spent away. Most of his relationships have been worn down into remnants of what they once were, and he's stuck working in a terrorist organization that he (depending on your Shepard) venomously hates, being manipulated at every turn by this shady asshole.

But like I said, so long as they don't make revivals common place, I have no issue with this one instance.

Fimbulvetr said:
They're a force to be reckoned with for sure but after two game's they feel less threatening, you know? At least an individual reaper.

The first reaper had to be beat down with literally the entire human armada at every angle when it was at a vulnerable position along with the most advance ship in the galaxy. The 2nd reaper was defeated more easily, but that reaper
wasn't even an infant, it was a fetus that was still developing.
So yeah, they are still carrying the impression of immense power and I was indeed shitting bricks
when a whole fleet of them
showed up.
 
I don't really see how Black Ops should be in contention to win anything but maybe Multiplayer of GOTY (which it also shouldn't really win with contenders like Reach, AC: Brotherhood, Starcraft 2, etc.)

However I think RDR & SC2 will garner the most attention from the most sites. I believe Reach is good enough that it should garner attention, but because its a Halo game, I think some will knock it down for that reason. ME2 is also a good contender, loved the hell out of all 4 that I mentioned actually and wouldn't be terribly upset with any of those 4 winning.
 
Generic said:
That's not what I'm talking about. Go ahead and be as blunt as you like, but what is the point of post 636? You're not going to accomplish anything by doing that. No one is going to be convinced by that post that maybe the ME2 story wasn't as great as they thought it was or that their opinion might need re-evaluation. There are already others who said that ME2 didn't deserve the crown, so you're not saying anything that others haven't already said. Your post there was literally a +1 for the "ME2 is not GotY" camp. If you wanted to really express your opinon, why not give your reasons as to why you thought that person was wrong and make an actual discussion out of it instead?

He made ME2 seem like some perfect masterpiece. Could I have elaborated? Yeah, but we're already doing that now aren't we?

The cost was so huge that even they were hit hard by the costs of it. But yes, I'll concede that the resurrection could have been handled better. Still, Shepards biggest loss would be the years he spent away. Most of his relationships have been worn down into remnants of what they once were, and he's stuck working in a terrorist organization that he (depending on your Shepard) venomously hates, being manipulated at every turn by this shady asshole.

No, but I mean consequences that make it apparent that death can't be cheated(whether in a literal of philosophical sense). Shep's girlfriend/boyfriend breaking up with him doesn't cut it.

The first reaper had to be beat down with literally the entire human armada at every angle when it was at a vulnerable position along with the most advance ship in the galaxy. The 2nd reaper was defeated more easily, but that reaper
wasn't even an infant, it was a fetus that was still developing.
So yeah, they are still carrying the impression of immense power and I was indeed shitting bricks
when a whole fleet of them
showed up.

I guess, but you just know the battle against millions of them will end up underwhelming in some way.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
He made ME2 seem like some perfect masterpiece. Could I have elaborated? Yeah, but we're already doing that now aren't we?
Yes. Now. At 1:20 am. When I have class in the morning. You could have made your case in the beginning, in which case I probably wouldn't have posted trying to get you to elaborate on your reasoning for your feelings on ME2. Just would have saved me some trouble, you know?

Fimbulvetr said:
No, but I mean consequences that make it apparent that death can't be cheated(whether in a literal of philosophical sense). Shep's girlfriend/boyfriend breaking up with him doesn't cut it.
Well, it's not like Shepard is immortal now. He's still going to die at some point. People have been delaying death for a while now anyway. With future technology, the average human in Mass Effect now lives to be 150 on average. Death will still get his due, he just needs to wait a bit longer.

Fimbulvetr said:
I guess, but you just know the battle against millions of them will end up underwhelming in some way.

I don't know what the fuck they can do to survive. The only possible advantage humanity has is that they have that outline of the Reaper Facility, but otherwise, we are now facing the invading force of hundreds of Gods when the majority of the galaxy is still divided over their personal squabbles. But I didn't expect Bioware to come up with a godlike, but still understandable reason for Reaper motivations, so I'm willing to wait and see before I call bullshit on them.
 
Generic said:
Yes. Now. At 1:20 am. When I have class in the morning. You could have made your case in the beginning, in which case I probably wouldn't have posted trying to get you to elaborate on your reasoning for your feelings on ME2. Just would have saved me some trouble, you know?

Not my fault you're irresponsible. :P

Generic said:
Well, it's not like Shepard is immortal now. He's still going to die at some point. People have been delaying death for a while now anyway. With future technology, the average human in Mass Effect now lives to be 150 on average. Death will still get his due, he just needs to wait a bit longer.

But shle already died, that's my point.

Generic said:
I don't know what the fuck they can do to survive. The only possible advantage humanity has is that they have that outline of the Reaper Facility, but otherwise, we are now facing the invading force of hundreds of Gods when the majority of the galaxy is still divided over their personal squabbles. But I didn't expect Bioware to come up with a godlike, but still understandable reason for Reaper motivations, so I'm willing to wait and see before I call bullshit on them.

All we can do is wait, but I ain't expecting much.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
Not my fault you're irresponsible. :P

I've very responsible. I saved this thread by stopping you from continuing the "I THINK A" "AND I THINK B" charade without ever making any meaningful discussion. :lol

Fimbulvetr said:
But shle already died, that's my point.

Well, you can't have shepard be 'put back together exactly as he was before' like the Illusive man wanted but still have zombification in place. If you want to go meta about it, you can act like a totally different person than when you were in Mass Effect 1 and call that a side affect, I guess. And there's still the whole thing with how he is totally under the Illusive man's control the whole time. Like I said, I agree that they could have handled the scene better, but I'm not all that bothered by it.

Now I must sleep.
 
The only thing Mass Effect 2 was good at was exposing the massive flaws in creating a game that tries to carry over choices from the previous game and the dangers of listening to all the wrong people. Let's scrap the shit inventory system, the RPG elements, and the epic overarching story. BioWare's myopic philosophy on game design seems to be that if it was broke, scrap it, and that if you're working on improving one thing, ignore (or scrap) everything else. The shooting is better, that much is undeniable - but even good shooting mechanics is pointless when the level design is some of the most insipid, uninspired garbage I've ever seen in third person shooters (cut and paste levels everywhere, linear to the extreme, and so blatantly compartmentalized it was depressing) and the enemies are almost all bullet sponges and extremely boring to fight. The characters, were, for the most part better - but I prefer quality over quantity, and the game fell apart when it came to variety for that simple reason; the entire game devolved into recruiting -> loyalty mission. Then repeat with a different character. Again. And again. Combined with the horribly repetitive level design, now the story is getting repetitive. And while we're at it, let's just hit the reset button on everything too and create a self-contained story just to rub in the fact that your choices matter to the extent that we recorded an extra line of dialogue or two and we added email into the game.

They wanted their Empire Strikes Back. They failed miserably. It does not deserve to be a GOTY contender. You want a truly great game that merges TPS and RPG well, and makes some bold choices with Choice and Consequences? Oh and you want a kick-ass plot and great characters? If their QA team wasn't so goddamn incompetent and Obsidian was given the time to finish their fucking games (and since it's made by Obsidian, it, for some reason, automatically generates ridiculous amounts of unwarranted hate), Alpha Protocol would be everyone's GOTY in Mass Effect 2's stead.
 
Spiderman Shattered Dimensions for me. It would have been Red Dead if the game had ended in Mexico but it didn't. I absolutely hated that long drawn out third act.
 
For me it's a tie between RDR and Mass Effect 2.

RDR: "The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed" was emotionally stirring, one of the very few times I've been moved by the storyline of a video game.

Mass Effect 2: Ah, yes. "Reapers."
 
the walrus said:
The only thing Mass Effect 2 was good at was exposing the massive flaws in creating a game that tries to carry over choices from the previous game and the dangers of listening to all the wrong people. Let's scrap the shit inventory system, the RPG elements, and the epic overarching story. BioWare's myopic philosophy on game design seems to be that if it was broke, scrap it, and that if you're working on improving one thing, ignore (or scrap) everything else. The shooting is better, that much is undeniable - but even good shooting mechanics is pointless when the level design is some of the most insipid, uninspired garbage I've ever seen in third person shooters (cut and paste levels everywhere, linear to the extreme, and so blatantly compartmentalized it was depressing) and the enemies are almost all bullet sponges and extremely boring to fight. The characters, were, for the most part better - but I prefer quality over quantity, and the game fell apart when it came to variety for that simple reason; the entire game devolved into recruiting -> loyalty mission. Then repeat with a different character. Again. And again. Combined with the horribly repetitive level design, now the story is getting repetitive. And while we're at it, let's just hit the reset button on everything too and create a self-contained story just to rub in the fact that your choices matter to the extent that we recorded an extra line of dialogue or two and we added email into the game.

They wanted their Empire Strikes Back. They failed miserably. It does not deserve to be a GOTY contender. You want a truly great game that merges TPS and RPG well, and makes some bold choices with Choice and Consequences? Oh and you want a kick-ass plot and great characters? If their QA team wasn't so goddamn incompetent and Obsidian was given the time to finish their fucking games (and since it's made by Obsidian, it, for some reason, automatically generates ridiculous amounts of unwarranted hate), Alpha Protocol would be everyone's GOTY in Mass Effect 2's stead.
Did you work on Alpha Protocol?
 
Based on those leaked(?) gameplay videos of Donkey Kong Country Returns, I think that game could end up getting a lot of votes. I am seriously impressed with what Retro Studios has been pulling off with the franchise.
 
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