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Toonami + DBZ was pure hype

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Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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You might be right.

However, there's a tact to raising your point without shitting on people's memories. Let us bask in the nostalgia. Let us enjoy or fading memories of youth which is signified by the cheesy DBZ dub.

It represents our lives gone by. We are Gen Y.
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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AHAHAHA! No.

The "shitty" dub is so goddamn hype take your garbage elsewhere.
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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I overwhelming prefer the Faulconer and Ocean dubs for DBZ, and probably always will. Shit instantlytakes me back to my childhpod. The original ost does almost nothing for me overall. I enjoy a few themes, but find the Faulconer and Ocean dub music to be much more fun.
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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I overwhelming prefer the Faulconer and Ocean dubs for DBZ, and probably always will. Shit instantly takes me back to my childhood. The original ost does almost nothing for me overall. I enjoy a few themes, but find the Faulconer and Ocean dub music to be much more fun.
 
jimmyd said:
There was one promo where they used Moby's 'Natural Blues', anyone remember or have a link to that?
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My man!
Came here looking for this, but seeing it wasn't posted I've been searching YouTube in vain. I once had all that era of Toonani DBZ recorded to VHS, but unfortunately I no longer have the tapes.

That's the one promo, among all Toonami's great stuff, that will always stick with me.
It was just the DBZ backdrops parallax scrolling along, with Moby's Natural Blues playing, and it was epic and haunting and beautiful and inspiring all at once.
 
Man people talk about how great TOM Is/was to toonami (and he is) but boy oh boy having Peter Cullen do the VO for a lot of the promos was the hypest.
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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You actually used the wrong video for the dub. This is how that scene went down in the dub.

It was Faulconer's greatest mistake. That is when he should've used Gohan's Anger. That scene could've been so hype like this(but with better mixing).

The Japanese version is the best though. There is something magnificent about it.
 
Only people that I knew that watched it were people that dropped out of school at 17, had bad personal hygiene and can't hold a job for more then a year.

I tried to watch but I didn't get it.
 
MilkBeard said:
You might be right.

However, there's a tact to raising your point without shitting on people's memories. Let us bask in the nostalgia. Let us enjoy or fading memories of youth which is signified by the cheesy DBZ dub.

It represents our lives gone by. We are Gen Y.
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This is kind of how I see it. You can't sit here and convince me it's actually better than the original, but who am I to attack nostalgia/preference? I grew up with it myself

BatDan said:
I think the best DBZ soundtrack is the original Kai OST by Kenji Yamamoto. Sadly due to his plagiarism, all official releases had it removed and replaced with Kikuchi's original OST, and placed in the weirdest places with no sense of timing or pacing.
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This still pisses me off. The Budokai and Butoden 2 music replacements are just as painful. :(

Piecake said:
Because Spirit vs Spirit is an incredibly corny ass song that does not fit the scene at all?
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Are we listening to the same song...? I prefer its emphasis on silent rage to the characters yapping and grunting all the while, personally. (particularly since they're accompanied by that one terrible music track, which is overly generic).

SuperOrez said:
I just wish more people played the card game.
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I had a number of the cards but never actually played it.

One of my many prized possessions as a kid was the only Chaozu card from the Android saga set. Poor guy never got enough spotlight.
 
silvermember said:
OMG, you are absolutely right. The sub is way better.... said no one with good taste.

Seriously, I am sure you could find a better example than that. I mean the sub version literally made me laugh in the middle of work. My god, I feel bad for you because you were probably all proud at finding the perfect example. All I can say to you is, I pity you.
Talk about bad taste.

I am not mocking you for liking the sub, but i mocking you because you are trying to project your horrible taste onto us, which is something I hate.
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Perhaps if you cut this down to the last sentence it would make sense
 
MrSaturn99 said:
This is kind of how I see it. You can't sit here and convince me it's actually better than the original, but who am I to attack nostalgia/preference? I grew up with it myself



This still pisses me off. The Budokai and Butoden 2 music replacements are just as painful. :(



Are we listening to the same song...? I prefer its emphasis on silent rage to the characters yapping and grunting all the while, personally. (particularly since they're accompanied by that one terrible music track, which is overly generic).



I had a number of the cards but never actually played it.

One of my many prized possessions as a kid was the only Chaozu card from the Android saga set. Poor guy never got enough spotlight.
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At least the monologuing isn't present in the Kai dub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MuUAbizGgo

I like Cell's quip far more in the original dub though.
 
Krejlooc said:
Ya, I have this program I wrote that takes tons and tons of tv commercials and parses them with schedules you define, and I've resurrected toonami. I've actually been watching Dragonball Super this way, inserting the episodes week by week into the format.
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Wait what? How did this post get ignored? I need more details on this.
 
MrSaturn99 said:
Are we listening to the same song...? I prefer its emphasis on silent rage to the characters yapping and grunting all the while, personally. (particularly since they're accompanied by that one terrible music track, which is overly generic).
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Apparently not, because the one I am listening to sounds like a crooner song
 
Their promo's are pure hype. I feel very fortunate to have grown up with Toonami.


Toonami + DBZ + Yu Yu Hakusho + Rurouni Kenshin + Gundam Wing it was all such pure hype.
 
Boombloxer said:
At one point or another, Toonami had

DBZ
Gundam Wing
Outlaw Star
Ronin Warriors
Trigun
Batman:TAS
Superman:TAS
Tenchi Muyo

Hard to top seeing all those with custom intros and inspiration videos.
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Not to mention Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin!

Goddamn Toonami was so damn good. Happy memories.
 
KenzinFive said:
So good. It makes me wish Toonami was still something that was every weekday/night rather than just a weekly block. In a better world, stuff like this would still be airing in a better time slot than late night on a Saturday. 1:30am is rough.
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Unfortunately that world is gone. Cartoon Network went off their rockers and now late night once a weekend is literally the only way something like this can exist.
 
Luap said:
Not to mention Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin!

Goddamn Toonami was so damn good. Happy memories.
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Was? It still is! Check it out. We are entering an exciting year for Toonami. Several big new names could be on the horizon as well.
 
entremet said:
It's interesting seeing the generations of DBZ fandom.

I came from the VHS bootleg fansub scene so I have preference for the original voices and music.

I remember when DBZ finally came over and cringing at the new voices and music. It just felt off.

But I was happy that more people would watch it.

They really should re-air on Youtube for the new generation to fall in love with it.
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Yep, although I started with Ocean's Dub, then went to fansubs. I was ecstatic that DBZ was being dubbed by Funimation and the english dub would finally progress past Goku kicking Recoome's ass

...only to be utterly disappointed by the voices and especially the cheap sounding synth music that constantly played every second. Thought it paled in comparison to the JP and Ocean soundtrack. Still do, outside of a few themes.
 
Rymuth said:
Toonami Trunks Promo

I knew shit was going down. But you're right, Toonami were so good at hyping DBZ.
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lol i still remember when this aired. everyone came back to school the next day like
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Blackage said:
You linked the wrong video for DBZ + Toonami awesomeness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRlZOWcwUc
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i will never get that "everyone, get dowwwwn" out of my head
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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No. No... Hell Fucking No. The music from the first Macross is terrible as well that for some reason, the more purist fans are fond of. They took it over here and gave it a soundtrack more fitting. It isn't nostalgia, its just noting that its more fitting for the serious nature of what is actually happening on screen. Rather than some terrible 80s Jpop track with terrible vocals. Shit sounds like one of those terrible albums you'll see at a night time infomerical about remembering these great classic love songs from the 80's that no one really remembers anyways.
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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wow.. how anti-climatic the original dub sounds. Sounds like a japanese soap opera..

Lacks any kind of epicness, the funimation dub hypes you up and lets you know that "shits about to hit the fan!"

Japanese dub is absolutely awful at setting any kind of tone. Silence does not make scenes more dramatic.

Proof:

ssj3 transformation (english)

ssj3 transformation (japanese)

On top of that, goku sounds like a 14 year old girl.

Edit: of course there' is no point discussing the matter, each side is going to stick with what they mainly grew up with.
 
Pandy said:
My man!
Came here looking for this, but seeing it wasn't posted I've been searching YouTube in vain. I once had all that era of Toonani DBZ recorded to VHS, but unfortunately I no longer have the tapes.

That's the one promo, among all Toonami's great stuff, that will always stick with me.
It was just the DBZ backdrops parallax scrolling along, with Moby's Natural Blues playing, and it was epic and haunting and beautiful and inspiring all at once.
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Can't find it either and I also had it recorded but those tapes are long gone.
Maybe nothing short of contacting Cartoon Network will yield a result but then there may be licensing issues with the music or something.
 
Aiii said:
Americans and their love for the shitty American dub's soundtrack that sounds like it was made by a guy with half a day of experience on Fruityloops will never not amaze me.

The worst part? The soundtrack never goes away. EVERYTHING has to have background music, nothing can be silent. Not just music either, they fucked up Gohan's SSJ2 tranformation too by adding both music and inner dialogue.


Seriously, compare the shitty dub vs. the original and tell me which is more powerful.

"I feel it flipping" gtfo.
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The problem with the original score is that it sounds like a soundtrack made for a Godzilla film from the 1950s. I like the Japanese music in that there it's well composed, with plenty of memorable tracks. But I don't think it fits DBZ at all. The series is about space aliens shooting lasers, and blowing up shit. It absolutely does not mesh well at all with that type of music. And even Spirit vs. Spirit, which is a fantastic song that I listened to a thousand times in high school (as one fellow gaffer will attest), is at least more modern sounding than the rest of the soundtrack.

The most fitting music is the one made by my man Ron Wasserman (of Power Rangers and X-men fame) who did the original Ocean dub. It had that very nice dark, techno-ethereal sound that was amazingly appropriate. Fit remarkably well, imo.

I do agree with you in that it was a problem that the music in all the dubs never stopped playing.
 
MrSaturn99 said:
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Just to clarify, I'm pretty positive the dub example he provided was from the episode following the transformation. But yes, the dub is host to beautiful things like this.

(I actually asked Christopher Sabat, who plays Yamcha, and Sean Schemmel about that specific sequence and on their feelings regarding the dub. I was really happy with their answers, and it might provide some context for you)
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Wow, respect +1 for that response. I'm glad they agree that shit was bad back then.

On the other hand, I don't know how legitimate is the excuse that the script was terrible because they had shitty equipment.
 
Oblivion said:
The problem with the original score is that it sounds like a soundtrack made for a film from the 1950s. I like the Japanese music in that there it's well composed, with plenty of memorable tracks. But I don't think it fits DBZ at all. The series is about space aliens shooting lasers, and blowing up shit. It absolutely does not mesh well at all with that type of music. And even Spirit vs. Spirit, which is a fantastic song that I listened to a thousand times in high school (as one fellow gaffer will attest), is at least more modern sounding than the rest of the soundtrack.

The most fitting music is the one made by my man Ron Wasserman (of Power Rangers and X-men fame) who did the original Ocean dub. It had that very nice dark, techno-ethereal sound that was amazingly appropriate. Fit remarkably well, imo.

I do agree with you in that it was a problem that the music in all the dubs never stopped playing.
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I liked DBZ's OST during DB, but never felt it fit DBZ. DBZ just feels like a completely different ball game y'know?
 
dity said:
I liked DBZ's OST during DB, but never felt it fit DBZ. DBZ just feels like a completely different ball game y'know?
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I can understand that, the original score for DB fits so well and feels so energetic at times, yet the original score for DBZ, at times, just feels too soap opera like, and weirdly, feels older than the DB score. Which is why I think people have greater appreciation for that Team Faulconer score to an extent because it DID make some scenes feel, being honest, completely different but more epic at the same time, Goku going Super Saiyan is the greatest example here, in the original it feels like some Godzilla music is being played, where as in the Funimation dub, the music really made you feel like Goku snapped and was slipping and was timed to the frames (the quick echo and going high pitched when Goku's hair turned blonde quickly, etc).
 
Toonami promos were so hype that every single one is the correct answer.

BUT GUNDAM 0080 WAS THE BEST

"Caught between loyalties, Al must make the ultimate choice. The stakes: Life and Death. The price of failure: Nuclear annihilation."
 
I grew up with German Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.

Holy shit @ the american soundtrack. Sounds like typical american "nothing can be silent".
It's okay if you grew up with that music, but the real thing should be appreciated a bit more.

Gohan SSJ2 (Japanese/German) > Gohan SSJ2 (English)
 
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