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Yeah ehm, that's all MSFT's doing, really.
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Total Biscuit arguing for no used game sales
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Yeah ehm, that's all MSFT's doing, really.
legacyzero
Banned
pieatorium
Member
Monocle
Member
MickeyKnox
Member
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
What is it with full-grown adults these days being unable to accept that they're wrong and acting like a total goose on social media? If you want to be taken seriously then act like a professional instead of resorting to petty attacks or burying your head in the sand.
I admit that I was a fan of Total Halibut and enjoy most of his work, but his current stance and behaviour really ruins whatever goodwill I had for the guy.
I admit that I was a fan of Total Halibut and enjoy most of his work, but his current stance and behaviour really ruins whatever goodwill I had for the guy.
mysteriousmage09
Member
This. This guy is so fucking salty that Jack flat out stated they listened to the feedback and this idiot was trying to say the Twitter stuff would do absolutely nothing.
runningjoke
Member
I lost all respect for this guy. I used to listen to his WoW radio show back in the day, that was funny and he was well-informed on the subject. Then I saw him do a speech on how videogames cannot be addictive. He totally ignored how WoW is basically a skinner box and just as addictive as any form of gambling and just said it's not a substance you can get physically addicted to. Waaay later I watches a few of his Wtf is videos, he kept blaming the games for his own mistakes, as if he didn't even look at the controls. And now he's making those kind of comments at people on twitter? Oh man, the fame really got to him.
helipilot22
Neo Member
Mans an idiot
Bauer Action Hour
Member
This guys sounds like he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. What a tool.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
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Bwahahahaha all that crow. What was that? No one's going to listen through the Twitter campaign?
PuppetMaster
Member
Saintguine
Member
Kind of lost a lot of respect for him, advocating anti-consumer practices then getting mad at everyone for organizing a civilized and structured Internet campaign to get their voices heard despite advocating this for and contributing heavily to the Dark Souls PC petition. Just a bit hypocritical in my opinion.
BudokaiMR2
Member
God.Fucking.Dammnit.
No they are not. You are correct.
However I really want to kick people's teeth in when I see comments like this.
Yes there are problems with used game sales in the video game market that cannot be compared to other media.
Is the way to fix this really by crippling consumer rights?
Yes the other media companies have other revenue streams that they can use to make back money besides just selling physical discs.
Now did these other revenue streams just fucking fall out of some goddamn rainbow in the sky across the world?
Is it not possible for companies like Microsoft to invest in more forward thinking business models instead of shoveling the responsibility onto the consumer?
There are much better and smarter ways to diversify your business model and Microsoft is going to learn that the hard way. Sony is trying to do that with services like Gaikai and PS+ IMO.
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#dealwithit
The last time I watched him was with his wow videos during cataclysm. His ego has really went to him the past few years.
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We didn't want something, we fought for it in a decent, honest way, and he gets bitchy and cries over it? Should change his name to Total Dickhead.
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The level of butthurt is off the charts. He was so sure that PS4 would be in the same boat. Now it looks like XboxOne and PC are just in the same boat by themselves. All of those who retweeted was PC Master Racers and Microsoft apologists. A console acting like a console when we don't have forced game installs and having the ability to not play on the cloud? It worked before, why not now?
Exploding8
Member
Thank you
Barack Lesnar
Banned
What a huge backfire for this guy. There's no way to backpedal out of this without admitting you got owned. I can't believe how big of a backfire this was. EXACTLY what he said wouldn't happen... happened. Incredible.
Mammoth Jones
Member
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Wow. Just wow. Microsoft wants games to be a service. This in theory would be advantageous for them. But many people are used to video games as a tangible product. They buy it. They physically have a copy and they own it. It's theirs. They can then do what they want with their single copy.
They can *try* to pull off a paradigm shift but I'm tired of the pundits that want to say there should be this magical exception to "stop" used games. It was never a problem. Developers view used games as a lost sale and feel entitled to that money. They're not. Period. A gamer already paid for that copy. What happens after that is their business.
In the end gamers need to vote with their wallets on this issue. Perhaps Microsoft will continue to push the console games as a service angle. Perhaps the Xbox One will be an amazing success but the market will decide that.
NeededSleep
Member
What an arrogant little twit. He has changed so much and gets bitter so much faster on topics since GDC. He kinda had a melt down when his viewership of that conference was low. Since then he has been more jaded towards the gaming community imo.
StopMakingSense
Member
Eh, anyone who follows the esports scene is pretty keenly aware of his hissy fits over the years.
spookyfish
Gold Member
forknknife
Banned
I actually agreed on many points he made in his video regarding how the videogame market is very different to other media like movies or music, but he really was wrong to defend what MS is doing because it is a model that goes against the consumer, no room for debate on this. I'm really glad that PS4 did not follow MS route, it's going to be a very very interesting generation once again! 
Haha, perfect.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
I don't know about anyone else, but I would be for the used game fee if it met two simple conditions, one of them being very obvious.
1) It's a fair price, something like $10 or so, so that buying used games is still viable, however, you still pay a little more to play the game. Not sure if they really expanded on the used game fee or if there is one though. I do remember them talking about being able to give a friend your game if they've been your friend for 30 days and once traded it's theirs for good and can no longer be traded ever again.
2) ALL the money from the fee goes directly to the developers, as they are the ones who are usually ducked over with the money from games. None of it should go to Microsoft, it would be highly unethical, in my opinion, for Microsoft to get any amount of that fee. Publishers could perhaps get a small percentage like 10% or less but most should go to the devs, after all isn't that the point of this system, that used games are apparently hurting the devs?
1) It's a fair price, something like $10 or so, so that buying used games is still viable, however, you still pay a little more to play the game. Not sure if they really expanded on the used game fee or if there is one though. I do remember them talking about being able to give a friend your game if they've been your friend for 30 days and once traded it's theirs for good and can no longer be traded ever again.
2) ALL the money from the fee goes directly to the developers, as they are the ones who are usually ducked over with the money from games. None of it should go to Microsoft, it would be highly unethical, in my opinion, for Microsoft to get any amount of that fee. Publishers could perhaps get a small percentage like 10% or less but most should go to the devs, after all isn't that the point of this system, that used games are apparently hurting the devs?
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Lost all respect for this guy. Wow, just wow
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Deleted member 10571
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Yup, exactly.
Because his content is extremely useful for PC gamers.
I trashed him up and down this thread, but I still sub on YouTube and watch his shit because I find it valuable.
It's possible to believe that he is one of the best content producers on all of YouTube, especially for my primary interest in the PC, and also believe that he's a huge fucking douche bag that needs to get over himself and probably needs some medication, as well as a respectable therapist.
I Agree! However, I usually consider any regular YouTube content provider to be a fake personality and not how they would be if I met them at a supermarket. And I think the same applies to Mr. Bane.
I think half the PC gamers actually want to kick them off the boat or at least jump off the boat and just swim far, far away. There's stronger reasons to have DRM stuff on PC, and nothing THIS heavy was well liked.
I feel like Angry Joe is actually a fairly genuine person. Maybe one of the only that I feel that way about.
I got a bad first impression from his "Geoff Keighley incident", but after understanding that situation properly, watching his content on YT, and following him on Twitter I've become a huge fan.
I feel like Joe is a guy that I could legitimately walk up to out of nowhere to introduce myself and shake his hand -- and he would be very receptive and appreciative to hear how much I love what he does.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Congratulations totalbiscuit, you've just tweeted your way into irrelevancy. Achievement unlocked.
njean777
Member
What happened between him and Geoff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTNkoDzP1hI
They both look like complete idiots. So hostile, it's extremely uncomfortable.
They have since completely made up.