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Just got done watching the first movie again. Such a fun little film. Hype levels for Dark of the Moon now at maximum. Can't wait for some good 3D action.
 
duckroll said:
So, as part of my TF3 prep for Wednesday, I'm rewatching the first two movies yet again. Just got done with the first one. I don't know what it is about the first movie, but I think I enjoy it more each time I watch it. It gets better with age imo, and it's a really well composed film. There's a solid 3-act structure, the characters are delivered well, there are great money shots, and everything is very concise. It's a simple story of Sam and Bumblebee, with a military story and the war between the Autobots and Decepticons in the background. Solid opening, and great ending too. I really <3 Bay's take on Transformers. :D

I'll probably watch TF2 on Monday or something. Not looking forward to it as much, but I remember that other than it being draggy and pretty incoherent towards the end, it's not completely awful. I think I've only seen it 3-4 times in total ever though. So that kinda pales in comparison with other Bay movies, other than Pearl Harbor, which I really don't want to ever watch multiple times. Lol.

Transformers (2007) really fucking sucks.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but "solid three act structure"? The "characters are delivered well"? "Concise"? Lol.
 
First(?) official review?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/film...ransformers-dark-of-the-moon-115875-23226103/

4 stars

the good news is that blockbusting director Michael Bay has delivered a high-octane bit of fantasy action-adventure that will have ­Transformers’ fans relishing the film’s vivid 3D entertainment.

So it’s a pleasure to say that this third film is a great improvement, with Shia ­LaBeouf ­really growing into the role of self-appointed liaison between the ­Transformers and mankind

With a story that’s not as messy and muddled as the last film, Bay manages to bring a darker and more dangerous tone to the plot.

And when the ­action kicks off – and boy does it look great on 3D – the film offers up a veritable feast of special effects mayhem.

Transformers: Dark of the Moon is a fantastic feast of all-action entertainment... the first big ­summer blockbuster is one worth catching.
 
That review didn't really say anything to me, when I read a review I want to hear good and bad since I think no movie is perfect.....and I doubt tf3 is perfect, still I am super hyped!!
 
brandonh83 said:
Oh nice, closest IMAX just cancelled the IMAX 3D screening for unknown reasons. Awesome!


Ha, I take it you have tickets for the one at Stoneybrook too? Yep, I'm fucking pissed. I bought my tickets a week ago from movietickets.com and then I noticed that the showing was missing. In fact I knew something wasn't right when I saw that on Tuesday night, CARS 2 was showing in IMAX at 10:55pm

I called up there and the guy said the studio cancelled it and that they would not be showing it in IMAX at all. I asked him about my tickets and he said they would either refund them or change them over to the regular 3D one.

Who the fuck cares about CARS 2...especially at 10:55pm....So I guess I'm going to drive up there tomorrow and change it to one of the 9:15 showings. To be honest it would be better for them to change it to the one at preston since that is closer to me anyways.

I can only hope the picture is bright. The last time I saw a 3D movie at stoneybrook it was Alice in Wonderland...it was dark as hell...
 
zulfate said:
That review didn't really say anything to me, when I read a review I want to hear good and bad since I think no movie is perfect.....and I doubt tf3 is perfect, still I am super hyped!!

Let the hype train carry you away.
 
oh yeah, (famous person name)
buzz aldrin
is in the movie. was that known? he's like totally out of it.
 
Puddles said:
Transformers (2007) really fucking sucks.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but "solid three act structure"? The "characters are delivered well"? "Concise"? Lol.

Did Bay fuck your mom or something? Everyone has their opinion just like you said. If it's not for you, oh well. Then I hope you didn't see the second one and hope that you're not seeing the third one either? In which case I have to ask why are you even in this thread other than to do horribly veiled trolling?
 
Tek said:
Ha, I take it you have tickets for the one at Stoneybrook too?

Small world, Dr. Jones! We called and they told US that it would be showing in IMAX 3D on Wednesday so now we're just waiting for the times to appear. That's weird that we were told two different things, makes me a bit more nervous.
 
Hero said:
Did Bay fuck your mom or something? Everyone has their opinion just like you said. If it's not for you, oh well. Then I hope you didn't see the second one and hope that you're not seeing the third one either? In which case I have to ask why are you even in this thread other than to do horribly veiled trolling?

I'm here because I like the Transformers universe for the most part, and I have hopes that the third one will be decent even though Bay still puts far too much focus on the human characters.
 
Just watched it. Liked the first. Was entertained by the second. The third leaves me feeling odd. It's just plain weird at times and some of the performances are so over the top i cringed and rolled my eyes more than usual. Have to watch it again. could be just because i'm tired.

Anyway, good things about it - the action is impressive, especially the last 40 minutes.
Rosie Huntington-Whiteley isn't that bad. The 3D is good at times too.. good that paramount have mastered and colour graded for extra brightness. Which does make for a much better viewing experience.

Bad things - the first hour or so.. Shia LaBeouf acts like he's on some really bad drugs and screams all the time.
It blew the centre channel on the amplifier. Bastard.
 
Puddles said:
I'm here because I like the Transformers universe for the most part, and I have hopes that the third one will be decent even though Bay still puts far too much focus on the human characters.

Without human characters you have a bunch of non-descript robots banging metal together and no one outside of a small niche of people cares to see that. Transformers isn't a multi billion dollar film franchise without Shia and Co.
 
Kubricks Ghost, you can go ahead and spoil this for me, I don't care.

How is Shockwave's role in the movie? Does he do anything badass? Does he go out like a bitch?

Do either he or Megatron get to fight anyone cool?

Is Optimus still ridiculously overpowered like in TF2?

Solo said:
Without human characters you have a bunch on non-descript robots banging metal together and no one outside of a small niche of people cares to see that. Transformers isn't a multi billion dollar film franchise without Shia and Co.

They don't have to be non-descript if they're written well. Wall-E had great characterization with hardly a word of dialogue.

I'm not saying that the film shouldn't have human characters. Sam is great, IMO. But 50% of the others could easily be cut.
 
You guys think a lot of the general audience knows about the advance 9PM screenings on Tuesday?

I talked to a manager at a theater in town and he indicated there were barely any presale tickets sold at this point, so that leaves me curious.
 
The Outsider said:
You guys think a lot of the general audience knows about the advance 9PM screenings on Tuesday?

Hey maybe that's why they changed Transformers 3 at 9pm to Cars 2 at 9pm even after people had bought their tickets at the theater I was going to!
 
Dead said:
As far as "animation" goes

Though I probably enjoyed it moreso than any other Pixar movie, aside from Ratatouille, Incredibles and Wall-E, which are really the only 3 Pixar movies I hold in extremely high regard

I know this is off topic and from a few pages back but I think we or perhaps just I got "visuals" and "animation" mixed up. When I say "visuals" I mean Blu-Ray picture quality such as it's clarity and definition. I now understand what you mean by animation and not necessarily just picture quality. I agree that Tangled is one of the best films when it comes to animation.
 
brandonh83 said:
Hey maybe that's why they changed Transformers 3 at 9pm to Cars 2 at 9pm even after people had bought their tickets at the theater I was going to!

I hope you got your money back and gave them an earful?
 
The Outsider said:
I hope you got your money back and gave them an earful?

Technically it was a friend of mine that bought the tickets but yeah he got a refund. They told him that it would be playing in IMAX 3D on Wednesday, at 1pm and 8pm but that the times were subject to change. Sounds awfully fishy, especially coupled with the fact that they told Tek that it wouldn't be playing at all.
 
I think we'll see Super 8 a second time this week and then check out Transformers next week after the opening weekend insanity is over.
 
brandonh83 said:
Technically it was a friend of mine that bought the tickets but yeah he got a refund. They told him that it would be playing in IMAX 3D on Wednesday, at 1pm and 8pm but that the times were subject to change. Sounds awfully fishy, especially coupled with the fact that they told Tek that it wouldn't be playing at all.

Sounds like they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. Incompetency is one of the few things that just drives me crazy.

I work at a theater, so I'm aware of common issues, but that is beyond me. What theater is it, if you don't mind me asking?
 
Solo said:
I think we'll see Super 8 a second time this week and then check out Transformers next week after the opening weekend insanity is over.

Never been of fan of watching blockbusters on the opening weekend. Will try to see on a weekday or on the second weekend.
 
3N16MA said:
Never been of fan of watching blockbusters on the opening weekend. Will try to see on a weekday or on the second weekend.

I haven't seen a movie on opening night since Avatar. And even that wasn't a big deal because Avatar didn't have a big opening weekend. Second weekend or matinee FTW. Can't be bothered with lines, teenagers, and fully stuffed theatres.
 
3N16MA said:
Never been of fan of watching blockbusters on the opening weekend. Will try to see on a weekday or on the second weekend.

Sometimes it's nice to have crowd responses... and other times, I want to murder every annoying asshole sitting around me.
 
Just to clarify, I don't think Bayformers should be the 80's Transformers with live action. I've gone back and watched a few scenes from the 80's series, and it's almost unwatchable today. The dialogue, character designs and action sequences look like they're done by an eight year old. The overall story is decent enough for an action series. It's the universe itself that's great. From what I understand, the comics have really done a good job of exploring this.

Putting some well-written human characters in the film is a good idea, and having the protagonist be a human character can work. But the robots themselves should be characters, not just plot-devices or props, and outside of Bumblebee, Optimus and Megatron, I've never felt that this was the case. Too much of the focus in the first two films has been squarely on the human characters that nobody cares about (Duhamel, Turturro, whoever played that dumbass hacker chick, etc).

It's been well established that audiences will watch a film without human characters (The Lion King, Wall-E). There could have been some emotional weight to the scenes with the robots, but there really isn't, because Bay spends more time with Sam's stupid roommate than he does with Starscream or Ironhide.

Anyway, I'm hoping that the third film will be good. Might try to snag a Tuesday night ticket.
 
The Outsider said:
I work at a theater, so I'm aware of common issues, but that is beyond me. What theater is it, if you don't mind me asking?

Stonybrook in Louisville, KY. Yeah, not much investigative work required!
 
brandonh83 said:
Stonybrook in Louisville, KY. Yeah, not much investigative work required!

Haha, not much indeed. Just had to see if any of the companies I previously worked for were involved is all.

It's possible they may be having technical issues with it, but that doesn't make much sense if it's prepped for the next day.

Maybe they know they won't have it until the next day for some reason? It's possible it might be locked by Paramount for one reason or another until Wednesday.

Those are just my guesses. Maybe there's a bunch of lazy and incompetent people working there. That sounds just as likely, really.
 
Well we're not sure if it's showing the next day. When my friend called, he was told that they were, but Tek was told that they weren't showing it at all.

So right now it's a game of wait and see, a game I hate playing.
 
brandonh83 said:
Well we're not sure if it's showing the next day. When my friend called, he was told that they were, but Tek was told that they weren't showing it at all.

So right now it's a game of wait and see, a game I hate playing.

Sounds like the theater might be having an issue with Paramount about the distribution then, which may be why they're playing coy about what's going on.

Not sure why, mind you, but shit happens.

Closest IMAX to me is two hours away, so that's not happening.
 
Yeah if we can't go to this one, then it won't be happening at all. I've never seen a movie in IMAX, or IMAX 3D. I saw Avatar in RealD 3D but it was on a normal screen. 3D effect was still neat but I felt like I missed out.

I generally don't care about 3D, but Bay obviously put a lot of work into it and it's not a post-conversion. I think it'll look really amazing, even immersive.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yeah if we can't go to this one, then it won't be happening at all. I've never seen a movie in IMAX, or IMAX 3D. I saw Avatar in RealD 3D but it was on a normal screen. 3D effect was still neat but I felt like I missed out.

I generally don't care about 3D, but Bay obviously put a lot of work into it and it's not a post-conversion. I think it'll look really amazing, even immersive.

Parts of it are post conversion but the majority was shot in 3D with the Avatar team on board. The shots that were converted are facial close ups, sky scenes, slow motion, and shots where sand caused a problem with the 3D cameras. Many of those scenes do not have much 3D impact so Bay chose wisely what to convert. Also he made sure they got the best in the business to do it and did not cheap out.
 
brandonh83 said:
Technically it was a friend of mine that bought the tickets but yeah he got a refund. They told him that it would be playing in IMAX 3D on Wednesday, at 1pm and 8pm but that the times were subject to change. Sounds awfully fishy, especially coupled with the fact that they told Tek that it wouldn't be playing at all.

Yeah, I make sure to ask again when I go up to change my ticket to another showtime. Something definitely seems weird about that. I know I watched Revenge of the Fallen in IMAX there at a midnight release.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yeah if we can't go to this one, then it won't be happening at all. I've never seen a movie in IMAX, or IMAX 3D. I saw Avatar in RealD 3D but it was on a normal screen. 3D effect was still neat but I felt like I missed out.

I generally don't care about 3D, but Bay obviously put a lot of work into it and it's not a post-conversion. I think it'll look really amazing, even immersive.

Yeah, that's unfortunate. I really wanted to catch my first viewing of this in IMAX 3D, but it's just not really conducive to my schedule at all, and I don't want to wait until it is.

I will see this in RealD 3D at the very least though. I wonder how the 3D will do amongst the general audience though, as its been dwindling more and more recently.
 
Ok, so I tried to check the times for Transformers at my local AMC. Just found out they aren't showing it in IMAX, just this thing called ETX. Apparently Disney bought the rights to show Cars exclusively for 50% of IMAX theatres in So Cal, so almost no Transformers in IMAX in the LA area. Anyone know anything about this ETX? Does it compare to IMAX?
 
Wow, yeah, I just checked, the theater I was planning on going on Tuesday night has CARS 2 on its IMAX screen

what the fuck?
 
zulfate said:
Ok, so I tried to check the times for Transformers at my local AMC. Just found out they aren't showing it in IMAX, just this thing called ETX. Apparently Disney bought the rights to show Cars exclusively for 50% of IMAX theatres in So Cal, so almost no Transformers in IMAX in the LA area. Anyone know anything about this ETX? Does it compare to IMAX?

I don't know where you are in the LA area so this may be of no use to you, but the AMC at Universal City is showing it in IMAX.

Personally, I think I'm just going to go see it at the Arclight. The dome is about the size of a Liemax screen I think.
 
Blader5489 said:
I don't know where you are in the LA area so this may be of no use to you, but the AMC at Universal City is showing it in IMAX.

Personally, I think I'm just going to go see it at the Arclight. The dome is about the size of a Liemax screen I think.

Yeah, I live a little further from the Downtown area. I meant 50% of all IMAX theaters aren't going to be showing it out here in so cal. which blows i think.
 
zulfate said:
Ok, so I tried to check the times for Transformers at my local AMC. Just found out they aren't showing it in IMAX, just this thing called ETX. Apparently Disney bought the rights to show Cars exclusively for 50% of IMAX theatres in So Cal, so almost no Transformers in IMAX in the LA area. Anyone know anything about this ETX? Does it compare to IMAX?
ETX is basically fake IMAX. I watched Pirates 4 in ETX and it was just in a regular screen, albeit stretched to its maximum capacity, and with the volume all the way up.
 
TUROK said:
ETX is basically fake IMAX. I watched Pirates 4 in ETX and it was just in a regular screen, albeit stretched to its maximum capacity, and with the volume all the way up.

so the quality looks stretched out or blurred? do you recommend it for 3d?
 
zulfate said:
so the quality looks stretched out or blurred? do you recommend it for 3d?
It looked pretty decent, actually. The 3D for Pirates 4 sucked, but that's because of the way it was filmed, the actual 3D effect looked fine. It was just RealD though.
 
Puddles said:
Just to clarify, I don't think Bayformers should be the 80's Transformers with live action. I've gone back and watched a few scenes from the 80's series, and it's almost unwatchable today. The dialogue, character designs and action sequences look like they're done by an eight year old. The overall story is decent enough for an action series. It's the universe itself that's great. From what I understand, the comics have really done a good job of exploring this.

Putting some well-written human characters in the film is a good idea, and having the protagonist be a human character can work. But the robots themselves should be characters, not just plot-devices or props, and outside of Bumblebee, Optimus and Megatron, I've never felt that this was the case. Too much of the focus in the first two films has been squarely on the human characters that nobody cares about (Duhamel, Turturro, whoever played that dumbass hacker chick, etc).

It's been well established that audiences will watch a film without human characters (The Lion King, Wall-E). There could have been some emotional weight to the scenes with the robots, but there really isn't, because Bay spends more time with Sam's stupid roommate than he does with Starscream or Ironhide.

Anyway, I'm hoping that the third film will be good. Might try to snag a Tuesday night ticket.
First let me say that i completely agree with you, both here and in the thread you made. My biggest complaint, more than the stupid Deus Ex, more than the overly capable military, is that the only established Transformers after two entire movies are Prime, Bumblebee, Megs, and Starscream. Everyone else is a 20 foot prop with a gun.

That said, I am certainly not holding my breath that this will even remotely change by the end of the third film, shy of perhaps adding Shockwave and Sentinel Prime to the roster. Its a 2 and a half hour movie, they simply won't have time to flesh out the rest of the Bots, especially since you know there's a shit load of Shia and military garbage they need to drive home.
 
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