Lazy Jones
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I don't like triple buffering. Rather have tearing than input lag.
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Triple buffering: "Why we love it"
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AgentP
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Vsync will make it 30fps unless it jumps to 60 or goes below 30. Triple buffering will show the 45fps or anything in-between 30-60.
I have not been using D3DOverider lately, I've ran into some games which won't boot with it, but I need to try it with Skyrim.
Man, they really did everything right with this release. Except the release date I guess!
Honestly, very few games nowadays don't have triple buffering built-in.
Not much point for either, I think. Both emulators have built-in triple buffering, and IIRC, PCSX2 just doesn't run very well at all if you can't maintain full speed (I seem to recall a lot of audio stuttering).
Not much point for either, I think. Both emulators have built-in triple buffering, and IIRC, PCSX2 just doesn't run very well at all if you can't maintain full speed (I seem to recall a lot of audio stuttering).
Pimpbaa
Slop Inspector
The game already uses triple buffering so you don't need it.
I thought Crysis had an ingame Vsync option?
Just googled and according to THIS, it does:
For me, d3doverrider worked in Crysis 32bit but NOT in Crysis 64bit.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Some slight help. I'm using RadeonPro to make profiles. Should I just let D3DOverrider do the tripple buffering side and just disable VSYNC in games? Or does the app auto detect any D3D instances (games) and just manually enable it? I'm late to the party but it seems extremely useful.
Crysis 64bit isn't working for me at all despite owning a 64 bit system...
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Depends on the game. Some use triple buffering automatically. D3DOverrider is the safe option, but RadeonPro should do the same thing just as effectively... in theory.
And how do I know if the game uses triple buffering automatically?
Nabs
Member
Close your browser and try again. I had my mind blown by this the other day in the Steam thread.
So I see this feature in Nvidia's new beta drivers:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-301.24-beta-drivers-released/
How is this different than vsync + triple buffering?
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-301.24-beta-drivers-released/
How is this different than vsync + triple buffering?
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Because it doesn't need triple buffering to avoid performance hits... and has no extra input lag that's added with triple buffering. It just shuts VSync off when the FPS goes below your monitor's refresh rate.
Why even use that when frame rate target is available. Won't frame rate target limit your fps to your monitor refresh rate so that you wouldn't need v sync ever?
So far I prefer adaptive vsync to this solution. I'm probably not qualified to judge this, but I feel like I have less input lag, and the tearing is very minimal. I really had a distaste for the little stuttering problem, and this really seems to help. Skyrim is a prime example...slowly panning is so much better now.
I don't really know how this is different from the frame limiter that's been around, but I'm always interested. Also the tearing is worse when using that method. Far worse than any I've seen since using adaptive vsync. I never noticed the stutter from 60-61 as opposed to 60-59.
I don't really know how this is different from the frame limiter that's been around, but I'm always interested. Also the tearing is worse when using that method. Far worse than any I've seen since using adaptive vsync. I never noticed the stutter from 60-61 as opposed to 60-59.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Because limiting your frame rate does not prevent screen tearing. Vsync does.
I thought that tearing occurs when the frames per second goes above your monitor refresh rate? Mine is 60 so if I limit the frames so they never go past 60 I thought I'm good. I thought all v sync does is lock your frame rate to 60 or 30. I must not understand it correctly.
From Nvidia's Page
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Screen tearing still occurs without Vsync when your FPS goes below 60 FPS without Vsync. And I believe even at a cap of 60 without Vsync, it still will tear to some degree.
For example, I don't use Vsync/triple buffering in BF3, just limit the FPS so that it stays locked at 60 and my GPU doesn't work overtime. But screen tearing still happens.
Didn't really work for me. Downloaded the beta drivers with a GTX 460 and was getting some tearing even with it enabled. Worse, when I decided against using it and disabled it, it completely wrecked D3D and it wouldn't work. Tried restarting and everything. Was getting massive tearing. Had to uninstall the beta drivers and reinstall the last official drivers to get D3D working again.
TyrantGuardian
Member
Whoaaaaaaaa, thank you, man!
I now got the same problem though it was working several weeks ago. The process is running, but it doesn't show up in the tray and it does nothing. An idea?
Barrow Roll
Member
Close your browser, then try again.
I did, doesn't help....
D3RANG3D
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ninjaurbano
Member
Is it possible to DISABLE triple buffering? Someone said that recent games already comes with triple buffering built-in, and I do notice that, since even without forcing triple buffering, my framerate never drops from 60fps directly to 30fps.
I was wondering how Nvidia's adaptive vsync also works with games that already have triple buffering built-in, since both are not meant to work together.
I was wondering how Nvidia's adaptive vsync also works with games that already have triple buffering built-in, since both are not meant to work together.
did you try the other d3dov exe?
Yes, I now did, it's the same. It's so weird because it was working just fine in the past...
D3RANG3D
Member
Yes, I now did, it's the same. It's so weird because it was working just fine in the past...
Did you try reinstalling d3dov?
There is no real way to reinstall it. But I did deinstall and reinstall the complete rivatuner package...
D3RANG3D
Member
There is no real way to reinstall it. But I did deinstall and reinstall the complete rivatuner package...
Did you try putting it into compatibility mode? I googled it and alot of people say pretty much the same thing that it's an active process but it's not in the system tray but after a few minutes it shows up. if it still doesn't work use radeon pro assuming you have an ati card.
No, not yet. Which compatibility mode should I try? In the past it was always in an instant in the tray. It was working within the browser too., f.e. while watching a youtube video or so.
How long should I wait?? I let it idle for 10 minutes but it still didn't show up.
D3RANG3D
Member
No, not yet. Which compatibility mode should I try? In the past it was always in an instant in the tray. It was working within the browser too., f.e. while watching a youtube video or so.
According to the forum Windows XP3 compatibility, they also said that d3dov showed up in around 5 mins.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=361204
Well, it's working now in games but still not showing up. in the tray. Tried everything. So weird.
Cannon Goose
Member
I can't get D3DOverrider to work with Source games. There's a built in profile for hl2.exe which is set to medium and I also have the global one set to medium but it doesn't work. Setting either one to high or low doesn't help and it's bumming me out.
The games aren't running in a borderless window or anything like that, so I can't really figure out why it isn't working.
The games aren't running in a borderless window or anything like that, so I can't really figure out why it isn't working.
Piercedveil
Member
I'm trying to use D3DOveriderr for Just Cause 2 but I'm still getting tons of tearing and I'm not getting a sound or anything from D3DOveriderr when I start up the game. Any ideas?
Horse Armour
Member
Is there any harm in using D3Doverrider with games that natively support triple buffering like BF3? Also, how can you tell if a game's vsync is triple buffered.
No, and you can tell if it's working or not by how the game reacts when the framerate drops below 60. If it stays in the 50s/40s, it's triple buffered, if not, it drops immediately down to 30.
Horse Armour
Member
nvidia control panel triple buffering only works on OpenGL games AKA 99% of your games won't be supported. You need to use D3Doverrider if you want triple buffering on most of your games.
I find this weird because I do not like adaptive at all. Tried it quite a while ago with my 460 and quickly disabled it (for reasons posted earlier). But when I got my 660ti, I figured I'd give it another go. Loaded it up and Darksiders II was immediately jittery. Turned it off, loaded up the exact same point, and butter smooth. Maybe in the future I'll give it a third shot, but I'm not real sure I ever will again. I guess with a 120hz monitor, it's just become something I can live without now.
I didn't see a game dropping to 30 in ages with active vsync.
StrangeADT
Banned
Try turning down graphics options. My assumption is that the faster your frames render, the lower the input lag. (At least that's my assumption due to the ordering of things).
In some games, yeah. But I found out that framecapping at 58 will fix the input lag.