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[zkylon]

Oh god, this is embarrassing. I thought she was doing this to intelligently discuss how woman are portrayed in games, this just seems like immature ramblings and hating on straight men.

This whole thing just baffles my mind...

Her other videos are better, and I thought they were pretty informing and easy to digest. I don't watch all that TV so I don't have much of a reference of the correctness of those videos but since they seem to have received less backlash, I'm inclined to think they may be alright (though the gaming community is particularly vocal).

Don't know what the fuss is about. Is it because she said Bayonetta was a single mom?

I think the phrase "it's basically a Choose Your Own Patriarchal Adventure Porno Fantasy" says it all. I get it, there's an ironic twist to all her videos and whatever, but it's still very reductive and very short on the actual analysis. I forgot the site, but there was this other blogger (shouldn't be a factor, but it was a girl, I think) that saw Bayonetta as an woman empowered by her femininity, taking multiple cues from what witches as a myth actually symbolized for men back in the day, etc.

I'm not sure if there's much ground to that idea, but at least you could tell she did her research and was analyzing the game in its entirety. Anita's video has nothing of that, and it's too short and touches too many subjects (the japanese turning into fucktards gropers in trains, using women's bodies as advertising and exploitation of women in videogames, to name a few).

It's just shit.

Lame.

Ha, I agree, but what can I do?

 

[Ragingnight]

Since you apparently didn't catch the part in the video I was referring to where she says that the subway ad encourages sexual assault, I went to the trouble of creating a YouTube link that will go directly to the time where she says it, and I even transcribed it in case that helps:

Yeah nobody (that I have seen) is complaining about her take on the marketing. It is her critique of the actual game that people take offense to.

 

[Nert]

Yeah. Nobody is complaining about the sexual harassment in Japan part, but that's not related to video games so much.

Half of the video was dedicated to bashing Bayonetta, which she proved she hadn't even completed, or perhaps played at all, by demonstrating she was entirely unfamiliar with the plot or characters.

I played through and beat Bayonetta for the first time about a month ago (very fun game) and I honestly doubt my own ability to relay the plot to you

I mean, I have a bare bones awareness of the general premise (conflict between witches and sages, resurrecting some old power, a kid that's important for some reason) but that's about it. I suppose it's my fault for not reading through all of the in game journal entries.

(Plus I mistook JaseC and PlasticPassion for girls already - well, because I got PP confused with another GAF from an LA GAF Meet)

Hey, you should definitely make it out to one of the next ones if you can! I missed out on the monocle one, but September's and October's were a lot of fun.

 

[IHaveCandy]

That Bayonetta video was terrible. Somebody should teach her that bad summarization != analysis.

 

[polyh3dron]

I think the phrase "it's basically a Choose Your Own Patriarchal Adventure Porno Fantasy" says it all. I get it, there's an ironic twist to all her videos and whatever, but it's still very reductive and very short on the actual analysis. I forgot the site, but there was this other blogger (shouldn't be a factor, but it was a girl, I think) that saw Bayonetta as an woman empowered by her femininity, taking multiple cues from what witches as a myth actually symbolized for men back in the day, etc.

I'm not sure if there's much ground to that idea, but at least you could tell she did her research and was analyzing the game in its entirety. Anita's video has nothing of that, and it's too short and touches too many subjects (the japanese turning into fucktards gropers in trains, using women's bodies as advertising and exploitation of women in videogames, to name a few).

It's just shit.

Agreed. Reductive is the best word to describe it.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Hey, you should definitely make it out to one of the next ones if you can! I missed out on the monocle one, but September's and October's were a lot of fun.

Limited transportation and budget. I would have begged Iceman for a ride, but I didn't have the cash for the kind of fancy-ass meal that we were going to be ordering.

 

[LightofRohan]

Hey, you should definitely make it out to one of the next ones if you can! I missed out on the monocle one, but September's and October's were a lot of fun.

I'd be down w/ LA Gaf meetup if someone can sit me down and explain this whole feminism and entertainment thing. I'm starting to think I'm just really ignorant on the whole thing because I have no idea what the big problem is...

Her other videos are better, and I thought they were pretty informing and easy to digest. I don't watch all that TV so I don't have much of a reference of the correctness of those videos but since they seem to have received less backlash, I'm inclined to think they may be alright (though the gaming community is particularly vocal).

Ah, so the videos from the kickstarter did come out. Is there a place I can find them all? I was going to say how pathetic it was for her to announce it so pretentiously over half a year ago and still have nothing to show for it.

 

[GrizzNKev]

I played through and beat Bayonetta for the first time about a month ago (very fun game) and I honestly doubt my own ability to relay the plot to you

I mean, I have a bare bones awareness of the general premise (conflict between witches and sages, resurrecting some old power, a kid that's important for some reason) but that's about it. I suppose it's my fault for not reading through all of the in game journal entries.



Hey, you should definitely make it out to one of the next ones if you can! I missed out on the monocle one, but September's and October's were a lot of fun.

But hey, I'm not asking you to, and nobody asked her to. She took her own initiative to criticize the game, so it was her responsibility to get it right, no matter how crazy or silly it was. She didn't.

Limited transportation and budget. I would have begged Iceman for a ride, but I didn't have the cash for the kind of fancy-ass meal that we were going to be ordering.

Ha, but I met you during my only trip to LA.

 

[Ragingnight]

I played through and beat Bayonetta for the first time about a month ago (very fun game) and I honestly doubt my own ability to relay the plot to you

I mean, I have a bare bones awareness of the general premise (conflict between witches and sages, resurrecting some old power, a kid that's important for some reason) but that's about it. I suppose it's my fault for not reading through all of the in game journal entries.

Wierd. I beat the game about a month ago as well but I had a better understanding of the story. The only confused part I had was who the hell was

Spoiler

julieus

? It wasn't until later I was like "oh".

 

[Trey]

Is the real answer to dumb ass males accosting women in an unwanted fashion to actually segregate women from men? It doesn't seem to address the actual problem, merely disallowing those urges to cause any harm.

Instead, educate everyone on what is acceptable behavior by explicitly teaching the benefits of allowing women to be comfortable and less wary of sexual abuse.

Crawl before you walk, I suppose.

 

[polyh3dron]

Pretty much. I don't get what her point was to make the whole talk about harassment/trolling from a very small group within the community. I'd rather have heard about time she's spent talking to people within the industry or something of that nature.

Another reason why I'm saying that she's utilizing one of the very tropes she's railing against for support. She's framing herself as a Damsel In Distress and it's cynical as fuck IMO.

 

[QaaQer]

Her other videos are better, and I thought they were pretty informing and easy to digest. I don't watch all that TV so I don't have much of a reference of the correctness of those videos but since they seem to have received less backlash, I'm inclined to think they may be alright (though the gaming community is particularly vocal).


I think the phrase "it's basically a Choose Your Own Patriarchal Adventure Porno Fantasy" says it all. I get it, there's an ironic twist to all her videos and whatever, but it's still very reductive and very short on the actual analysis. I forgot the site, but there was this other blogger (shouldn't be a factor, but it was a girl, I think) that saw Bayonetta as an woman empowered by her femininity, taking multiple cues from what witches as a myth actually symbolized for men back in the day, etc.

I'm not sure if there's much ground to that idea, but at least you could tell she did her research and was analyzing the game in its entirety. Anita's video has nothing of that, and it's too short and touches too many subjects (the japanese turning into fucktards gropers in trains, using women's bodies as advertising and exploitation of women in videogames, to name a few).

It's just shit.

& maybe thats why she took it down? Because it was superficial as far as the game goes and she recognized that?

I still think the ad is creepy, and yes if you are a young woman, you want to avoid crowded tokyo trains.

 

[IHaveCandy]

Another reason why I'm saying that she's utilizing one of the very tropes she's railing against for support. She's framing herself as a Damsel In Distress.

Not really. Though I do think her troll tale did nothing but give her a "you go girl!" reception with nothing learned.

 

[QaaQer]

Is the real answer to dumb ass males accosting women in an unwanted fashion to actually segregate women from men? It doesn't seem to address the actual problem, merely disallowing those urges to cause any harm.

Instead, educate everyone on what is acceptable behavior by explicitly teaching the benefits of allowing women to be comfortable and less wary of sexual abuse.

Crawl before you walk, I suppose.

You waaaaaay overestimate human nature, well male human nature anyway. And on that note, I'm out of this thread.

 

[spekkeh]

I think the girl in the vid raises some valid points, amongst some obviously invalid ones. Even if Bayonetta is a parody (in which case a pretty poor one I might add), it reinforces a hypersexualized culture. That's something most people seem to forget; in actual message something may seem harmless, but the setting can still reinforce a sexist culture. That the annotator of the video takes digs at the word mysoginy and patriarchal, well, technically correct, but they're a well established part of gender studies lingo, so it's a bit cheap to take it out on her.

Not directly related to this, but what most feminists do seem to forget if that, given the choice, most women would prefer to play a hot sexy protagonist too. (though perhaps not a male porn fantasy)

 

[polyh3dron]

Is the real answer to dumb ass males accosting women in an unwanted fashion to actually segregate women from men? It doesn't seem to address the actual problem, merely disallowing those urges to cause any harm.

Something certain feminists and Muslim clerics can agree on?

 

[Lancehead]

& maybe thats why she took it down? Because it was superficial as far as the game goes and she recognized that?

I still think the ad is creepy, and yes if you are a young woman, you want to avoid crowded tokyo trains.

No, you don't take down your own criticisms. If you think you made mistakes, you acknowledge them, not hide them.

 

[rCIZZLE]

You waaaaaay overestimate human nature, well male human nature anyway. And on that note, I'm out of this thread.

You won't be missed.

 

[Trey]

Another reason why I'm saying that she's utilizing one of the very tropes she's railing against for support. She's framing herself as a Damsel In Distress and it's cynical as fuck IMO.

I don't think she's really framing herself in that manner, because a key component to that trope is a man coming to save her. Certainly she's playing the victim card - perhaps to drum up sympathy or to show that chicks have it tough in this business. But I have no doubt she's willing to put the work in herself.

 

[QaaQer]

That the annotator of the video takes digs at the word mysoginy and patriarchal, well, technically correct, but they're a well established part of gender studies lingo, so it's a bit cheap to take it out on her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19986863

 

[GrizzNKev]

& maybe thats why she took it down? Because it was superficial as far as the game goes and she recognized that?

I still think the ad is creepy, and yes if you are a young woman, you want to avoid crowded tokyo trains.

No, you don't take down your own criticisms. If you think you made mistakes, you acknowledge them, not hide them.

To agree with Lancehead and respond to Bunny at the same time:

Imagine what most people who have seen this video think of her credibility.

Get something wrong, receive massive backlash, hide video. -> Make kickstarter to criticize video games.

Why was this a good idea from her perspective? My theory is she realized she found an audience when she started including video games in her videos. Even if it meant making a million people angry, it was an audience. She knew there would be insane backlash when she asked for money to continue doing something she already failed miserably at. It was merely a guarantee that people unfamiliar with her work would stand up to defend her and throw money at her. Pretty smart, really.

 

[travisbickle]

Wait.

Castle Crashers? How is that offensive or detrimental? We can't even make fun of tropes anymore?

Fat Princess?

Braid? Look, as much as I hate to defend anything Blow does... this is a complete disaster. The princess is a metaphor. And even without the metaphor, you're the bad guy. She calls herself a scholar and yet she doesn't bother to do any research?

They are in the "ironic/retro" section.

Retro possibly refers to their traditionalist approach "the princess is in another castle", and irony possibly refers to the producers doing it "ironically" but it's still an offensive trope.

Something certain feminists and Muslim clerics can agree on?

Do you have any names? that sounds like a really strange perspective for a feminist.

 

[zkylon]

Ah, so the videos from the kickstarter did come out. Is there a place I can find them all? I was going to say how pathetic it was for her to announce it so pretentiously over half a year ago and still have nothing to show for it.

No, sorry, I meant the bunch of videos on her Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/feministfrequency), usually analyzing those tropes applied to TV shows.

& maybe thats why she took it down? Because it was superficial as far as the game goes and she recognized that?

Maybe, but that's not what you should do if you fuck up. Just put up a video saying "my last video had factual mistakes and was light on the analysis, so I'll do a better one instead". If TotalBiscuit did it with his WTF is Dark Souls (I still don't know why but if he felt it wasn't up to his pedigree then that's his call to make), Anita sure can (and should) on such a delicate subject.

It's OK to fuck up, just own up to it and correct it the professional way.

I still think the ad is creepy, and yes if you are a young woman, you want to avoid crowded tokyo trains.

I can understand the creepiness but I have to admit it's kinda clever.

 

[polyh3dron]

I can understand the creepiness but I have to admit it's kinda clever.

Clever, attention-grabbing, trashy and creepy. Not something that will compel men to sexually assault women though. I take issue with her acting like men are so simple minded that this ad could turn some of them into sex offenders.

 

[LightofRohan]

Is the real answer to dumb ass males accosting women in an unwanted fashion to actually segregate women from men? It doesn't seem to address the actual problem, merely disallowing those urges to cause any harm.

Instead, educate everyone on what is acceptable behavior by explicitly teaching the benefits of allowing women to be comfortable and less wary of sexual abuse.

Crawl before you walk, I suppose.

Yea I think my ignorance comes from what is the end goal for feminists in regards to entertainment? They constantly proclaim that men are depicted superior in entertainment, but rarely give examples on how men could be portrayed inferior (for comparison).

Like I really don't think there is a way to offend men w/ how men are portrayed in movies/games. Like if a Batman came out and batman was feminine hopping around throwing candy-canes, I wouldn't be appalled and demand equal rights. Or if every game I played was a woman saving a weak man, it would not phase me. Maybe I'm just too insensitive to this sort of thing?

I don't know! It all just baffles me. But I do recognize my ignorance about it all... but I've been waiting almost a year for these videos to explain.

 

[Trey]

You waaaaaay overestimate human nature, well male human nature anyway. And on that note, I'm out of this thread.

Maybe I am. If that's the case, then we might as well close this thread now and leave this fuckery alone.

If you or I or anyone can acknowledge the shadiness of such a thing, then everyone can. That's how society progresses and these harmful practices can be exposed and eliminated. The benefit (sexually liberated women; non intrusive people in general) is pretty sweet.

 

[spekkeh]

Yea I think my ignorance comes from what is the end goal for feminists in regards to entertainment? They constantly proclaim that men are depicted superior in entertainment, but rarely give examples on how men could be portrayed inferior (for comparison).

Like I really don't think there is a way to offend men w/ how men are portrayed in movies/games. Like if a Batman came out and batman was feminine hopping around throwing candy-canes, I wouldn't be appalled and demand equal rights. Or if every game I played was a woman saving a weak man, it would not phase me. Maybe I'm just too insensitive to this sort of thing?

I don't know! It all just baffles me. But I do recognize my ignorance about it all... but I've been waiting almost a year for these videos to explain.

The standard answer (not saying I agree with it) would be that you're not being oppressed. These things don't trouble you because they obviously have no bearing with reality
(in a sense this is a sexist stance too, but oh well)

 

[QaaQer]

Clever, attention-grabbing, trashy and creepy. Not something that will compel men to sexually assault women though. I take issue with her acting like men are so simple minded that this ad could turn some of them into sex offenders.

Of course not. but you can gain insight into a culture by looking at its advertising.

 

[UrbanRats]

I think the phrase "it's basically a Choose Your Own Patriarchal Adventure Porno Fantasy" says it all. I get it, there's an ironic twist to all her videos and whatever, but it's still very reductive and very short on the actual analysis.

I watched the video and it was indeed embarassing, though i think one of the problems was she took herself very seriously in an obnoxious way, so that superficiality came across as annoying.
You either commit and go in depth with your critique, or if you want to stay superficial and whip out these kinds of remarks, you have to take yourself less seriously.
There are plenty of reviewers who bank on inaccuracies for the sake of the joke, that's actually how comedy works, to an extent, but not being self serious is key.
Look at something like Plinkett Reviews (although they are not monothematic and are actually quite in depth) they often use exagerations for the sake of comedy, but are not obnoxious about it.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Ha, but I met you during my only trip to LA.

Oddly enough, at E3 2011, when I was walking down the street thinking "there should really be transportation from here to Newbury Park", I look to my left and see a bus going to Newbury fucking Park.

 

[IHaveCandy]

Of course not. but you can gain insight into a culture by looking at its advertising.

I don't see how that Japanese ad is anywhere near as offensive as those ads. It's not comparable at all.

 

[QaaQer]

I don't see how that Japanese ad is anywhere near as offensive as those ads. It's not comparable at all.

You might not see it because the Japanese ad is from our time. Our prejudices or whatever are much harder to see then those of the past. I mean those ads were not offense to the vast majority of people who lived back then.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

I don't see how that Japanese ad is anywhere near as offensive as those ads. It's not comparable at all.

Not to defend the video or anything (the Bayonetta video isn't great) but those are from the 50s and the Bayonetta one happened in 2011.

 

[IHaveCandy]

The standard answer (not saying I agree with it) would be that you're not being oppressed. These things don't trouble you because they obviously have no bearing with reality
(in a sense this is a sexist stance too, but oh well)

The typical sitcom/cartoon has a fat, dumb dad that exists only as a comedic relief. The mom is usually attractive, smart, and the constant voice of reason. The son is usually an idiot chasing babes. And the daughter is usually somewhat anti-social and wiser beyond her years. I've never once felt offended by this. I have thought it was corny and bad television, but not really offensive. I'd say women in games could be more creatively to make better stories and characters. But I don't think they are used in offensive manners that often.

 

[LightofRohan]

The standard answer (not saying I agree with it) would be that you're not being oppressed. These things don't trouble you because they obviously have no bearing with reality
(in a sense this is a sexist stance too, but oh well)

Hmm, interesting. Well I hope she actually releases these goddam videos because I'm actually really curious and I just watched her Lego video and it was actually pretty well thought out w/ a clear answer ect. Makes me confused what the hell went wrong w/ that Bayonetta video...

The typical sitcom/cartoon has a fat, dumb dad that exists only as a comedic relief. The mom is usually attractive, smart, and the constant voice of reason. The son is usually an idiot chasing babes. And the daughter is usually somewhat anti-social and wiser beyond her years. I've never once felt offended by this. I have thought it was corny and bad television, but not really offensive. I'd say women in games could be more creatively to make better stories and characters. But I don't think they are used in offensive manners that often.

Yep, this is basically my view as well. How many commercials do we get where the dumb guy doesn't know what he's eating is health for him, but the woman knows! I don't know, I think I'm just cynical in thinking the end goal of feminism is the oppression of men instead of equality for all.

 

[IHaveCandy]

Not to defend the video or anything (the Bayonetta video isn't great) but those are from the 50s and the Bayonetta one happened in 2011.

And the bayonets ad is no worse than any ad you'd see today with a nude man/woman covering themselves. Nudity is not misogyny. It isn't demeaning. Those 50s ads are implying that women have a subservient kitchen role. That Bayonetta ad is implying that she is hot.

 

[Trey]

Hmm, interesting. Well I hope she actually releases these goddam videos because I'm actually really curious and I just watched her Lego video and it was actually pretty well thought out w/ a clear answer ect. Makes me confused what the hell went wrong w/ that Bayonetta video...

She got overzealous.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

And the bayonets ad is no worse than any ad you'd see today with a nude man/woman covering themselves. Nudity is not misogyny. It isn't demeaning. Those 50s ads are implying that women have a subservient kitchen role. That Bayonetta ad is implying that she is hot.

Sure, but I think the argument is that it's an interactive ad where you "strip" a woman in a setting where groping and whatnot is a very real problem. The context makes it far more tactless/tasteless.

 

[Veelk]

And the bayonets ad is no worse than any ad you'd see today with a nude man/woman covering themselves. Nudity is not misogyny. It isn't demeaning. Those 50s ads are implying that women have a subservient kitchen role. That Bayonetta ad is implying that she is hot.

Well, in the video she said that the problem is that the men are encouraged to address her. Though I personally think that it's implying that bayonetta should be valued on her body rather than her character or being a great action game.

 

[IHaveCandy]

I think she is going to find that there just isn't a lot of topic here to discuss or analyze. Most of the tropes she will target are going to come down to one thing. The games are made with the idea of a male playing the game. Males tend to be heterosexual. Heterosexual males prefer having hot women over average/ugly women in games. Heterosexual males tend to prefer to play as males. This puts females in a backseat/eye candy role. It's what sells. There's nothing more to it. It's hard to extrapolate a larger cultural flaw from a product that is being so heavily focus tested for a particular demographic. Why does lifetime focus so much on movies about women and often portray in a more brutish role? Because women tend to watch that more.

 

[IHaveCandy]

Well, in the video she said that the problem is that the men are encouraged to address her. Though I personally think that it's implying that bayonetta should be valued on her body rather than her character or being a great action game.

That's silly. It's an ad. It's meant to grab your attention. You'll remember an ad that you interact with better. Sex sells. It's nothing more than a tool to make you remember the game. It's not an art piece with some message to spread around.

 

[polyh3dron]

more like IHaveTruthBombs

 

[IHaveCandy]

Sure, but I think the argument is that it's an interactive ad where you "strip" a woman in a setting where groping and whatnot is a very real problem. The context makes it far more tactless/tasteless.

Ads dealing with nudity aren't aiming for tact. If you don't like the ad, fine, but its not fair to attribute implications that are just strung up for the sake of argument.

 

[polyh3dron]

Sure, but I think the argument is that it's an interactive ad where you "strip" a woman in a setting where groping and whatnot is a very real problem. The context makes it far more tactless/tasteless.

yeah because her "clothing" was a whole bunch of greeting cards stuck to a poster, ok.

no they're not "undressing" her, they're taking a bunch of cards off of the poster to see what's on it. it's not a bunch of crazed horned dogs ripping away at a person's clothing to commit gang rape.

 

[Veelk]

That's silly. It's an ad. It's meant to grab your attention. You'll remember an ad that you interact with better. Sex sells. It's nothing more than a tool to make you remember the game. It's not an art piece with some message to spread around.

And the people of the 1950's basically thought the same thing. It's harmless, most women want to be in the kitchen, and those that don't aren't being harmed by it. The fact that it is an effective ad doesn't change the fact that it is objectifying bayonetta.

There's also the context to consider, in japan where women have large history of being molested on the trains they take to get home.

yeah because her "clothing" was a whole bunch of greeting cards stuck to a poster, ok.

no they're not "undressing" her, they're taking a bunch of cards off of the poster to see what's on it. it's not a bunch of crazed horned dogs ripping away at a person's clothing to commit gang rape.

So if I take a woman's cloths off for the purposes of inspecting the clothing article closely, that's not undressing her? Obviously it's ridiculous to equate it to a gang rape or whatever, but she has things covering her and people take them off which results in revealing more of her body. That's undressing her.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19986863

I thought you left?

 

[polyh3dron]

So if I take a woman's cloths off for the purposes of inspecting the clothing article closely, that's not undressing her? Obviously it's ridiculous to equate it to a gang rape or whatever, but she has things covering her and people take them off which results in revealing more of her body. That's undressing her.

If the things covering the poster actually represented articles of clothing you'd have more of an argument.

 

[Veelk]

If the things covering the poster actually represented articles of clothing you'd have more of an argument.

So, if a woman was naked except for being wrapped up in a blanket, then taking away that blanket would not qualify as undressing her?

Edit: Actually, we're getting wrapped up in the semantics of it. The point is that the entire point of this ad is to see her naked and that objectifies her. Whether it's undressing or simply uncovering or unearthing or whatever to see that naked body is irrelevant. The point here is that people are being encouraged to strip her of whatever is preventing them from seeing her ass.

 

[IHaveCandy]

And the people of the 1950's basically thought the same thing. It's harmless, most women want to be in the kitchen, and those that don't aren't being harmed by it. The fact that it is an effective ad doesn't change the fact that it is objectifying bayonetta.

There's also the context to consider, in japan where women have large history of being molested on the trains they take to get home.



So if I take a woman's cloths off for the purposes of inspecting the clothing article closely, that's not undressing her? Obviously it's ridiculous to equate it to a gang rape or whatever, but she has things covering her and people take them off which results in revealing more of her body. That's undressing her.

It's undressing the picture. The whole ad was covered. And this is not objectification. Feminists throw that word out constantly and it isn't always appropriate. It's nearly as bad as her saying the ad is mysoginistic. They are hot words to use that you can just say without really backing up. How is Bayonetta objectified in this ad? Nudity (in this case covered nudity) is not in itself sexual. There isn't a whole lot to decifer from this ad. It is also an accurate portrayal of the game character, as she is often shown naked with hair covering her.

 

[Veelk]

It's undressing the picture. The whole ad was covered. And this is not objectification. Feminists throw that word out constantly and it isn't always appropriate. It's nearly as bad as her saying the ad is mysoginistic. They are hot words to use that you can just say without really backing up. How is Bayonetta objectified in this ad? Nudity (in this case covered nudity) is not in itself sexual. There isn't a whole lot to decifer from this ad. It is also an accurate portrayal of the game character, as she is often shown naked with hair covering her.

Because there is nothing being advertized EXCEPT her body. It's not the world of bayoentta with it's interesting design on the angels or the 3 worlds of Inferno, Paradiso, and Purgatorio. There is nothing about what happens in the game except for seeing her naked body, like her amnesia or relationship with Cereza. It's not the gameplay that's being advertised, the weapons, the powers you get, except the guns she's holding. Nothing about her character is revealed except ARGUABLY that she doesn't mind being sexual from her face, and even that's stretching it. You can't tell that she loves to fight or dominate or that she's a witch.

There is nothing about this that you can say advertises the game except her body. Bayonetta is only worth looking at on the account that she is a sexy woman. That's objectification.