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[HazySaiyan]

 

[Gnome Scat]

Fucking moron.

 

[_Ryo_]

God fucking dammit.

 

[whytemyke]

This will in no way come back to haunt us. I'm sure of it.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

 

[_Ryo_]

Used to demolish some military bases or to slaughter innocent civilians by the thousands?

Can't really use any nuke without slaughtering tons of innocent civilians, I would think.

 

[shira]

So, basically a snuke?

Suitcase nuke

 

[Forerunner]

DAVEEEEEEE

DAVY CROCKETT!

KING OF THE WILD FRONTIEEEEEEER

C'mon guys and gals, sing it with me!

Davy Crockett doesn't have shit on Atomic Annie though.

 

[theofficefan99]

He needs to be removed from office NOW along with all of his disgusting enablers.

 

[D4Danger]

They should be funded the gun from Eraser instead. It's like they don't even want cool sci-fi weapons.

 

[Ushojax]

They have a small nuke.. It's called the MOAB (With out the nasty 250k half life)

Didn't he already launch one of those?

 

[Moose Biscuits]

Davy Crockett doesn't have shit on Atomic Annie though.

Good old Upshot Knothole! That's one of the more famous/popular nuclear explosions, I think because of that halo of plasma/fire that appears in the top part of the mushroom cloud.

 

[Alienous]

Drone nuclear warfare.

Hmm, no, not a fan.

 

[Beartruck]

They have a small nuke.. It's called the MOAB (With out the nasty 250k half life)

Trump already used that months ago.

 

[Finalizer]

But the pivot

.

 

[Moose Biscuits]

Trump already used that months ago.

They have more than one!

 

[Beartruck]

They have more than one!

No but more boom boom. The man has the attitude of a child. You know he wants to nuke something.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

If atomic bombs are to be added as new weapons to the arsenals of a warring world, or to the arsenals of the nations preparing for war, then the time will come when mankind will curse the names of Los Alamos and Hiroshima. The people of this world must unite or they will perish.

J Robert fucking Oppenheimer.

 

[shira]

No but more boom boom. The man has the attitude of a child. You know he wants to nuke something.

Does the Jericho Missile from Ironman exist?

That was pretty boomboom.

 

[Moose Biscuits]

No but more boom boom. The man has the attitude of a child. You know he wants to nuke something.

They need to set one of those things off in front of a 4k camera and some good mics.

You know, if they ever announced they were going to set off a nuke in an above ground test and were selling tickets for people to watch, I'd probably sell a kidney for the money to go to the States to see it. That shit's once in a lifetime (literally, probably).

 

[PintSizedSlasher]

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

They have a small nuke.. It's called the MOAB (With out the nasty 250k half life)

0.11 kt

The smallest nuke in production waa 0.72 kt

Flash and other radiation is why nukes are way more dangerous. Air bursts level cities but dont leave them uninhabitable. Both bombs in Japan were air bursts.

 

[Moose Biscuits]

0.11 kt

The smallest nuke in production waa 0.72 kt

I believe in modern parlance that's termed a "nukelet". (will they ever learn?)

 

[butzopower]

Nukes on drones, what could go wrong?

 

[Little Old Man]

Took far too long. Gaf be slippin.

 

[PingPongvonLaserstein]

A teacup nuke, if you will.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Enough ppl need to hate on his decision then smother him with smiles when he finally resumes a peaceful solution. Seems like the only way to make him change his mind.

 

[Nivash]

Tactical nukes were heavily discussed during the Bush presidency, with similar outrage. They were intended for bunker-busting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/30/usa.georgebush

http://progressive.org/magazine/bomb-bush-s-baby-nuke/

The project never really went anywhere, thankfully. They produced the MOAB instead. In whatever scenario you can come up with where a small nuke can do the job, a conventional weapon can typically do the job more or less as well but without the massive geopolitical ramifications.

 

[Armadilo]

Imagine a nuke but not a nuke

 

[PdotMichael]

Small nukes for small hands.

 

[Mivey]

Sounds like it would undermine the concept of nuclear deterrence. Then again, a good nuclear winter and starting from scratch might do modern civilization some good.

 

[TacticalHotdog]

We had Nuclear artillery shells in the 1950s

There's been some murmurs about developing stealthy nuclear cruise missiles as of late

 

[Drifters]

Fire and Fury

 

[Tony Redgrave]

Can we please try to focus our efforts as a species in something else that turning Earth into a smoking crater?

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Is it delivered by robots?

 

[Bronx-Man]

Of all the ways for Earth to plunge into MAD, it had to be a fucking game show host starting it.

 

[qcf x2]

Tactical nukes were heavily discussed during the Bush presidency, with similar outrage. They were intended for bunker-busting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/30/usa.georgebush

http://progressive.org/magazine/bomb-bush-s-baby-nuke/

The project never really went anywhere, thankfully. They produced the MOAB instead. In whatever scenario you can come up with where a small nuke can do the job, a conventional weapon can typically do the job more or less as well but without the massive geopolitical ramifications.

That's surprising, I thought we already had a bunch of tactical nukes tbh. And that they'd be the last weapon used before a conflict goes full on nuclear, ie the the last opportunity for deescalation.

 

[Malvolio]

Seems like a shitty trade-off. We use a small localized nuke and someone else retaliates by leveling a city.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Eh not seeing the big deal, aside from wasting money.

 

[jay]

New Trump is completely different from old Trump. Next he will propose mini-systematic racism.

hawk hawk

I assume you meant this as a joke but you just said something true and expected it to be funny.

 

[Nivash]

That's surprising, I thought we already had a bunch of tactical nukes tbh. And that they'd be the last weapon used before a conflict goes full on nuclear, ie the the last opportunity for deescalation.

I should probably have been a bit more clear. You're correct, the US still retains a significant number of tactical warheads. But what Bush - and now Trump - envision is even smaller than that, which is why they blur the line between convenetional and nuclear weapons in a dangerous way.

 

[LastGamer84]

Who let Trump play Metal Gear? Who is responsible for this madness?

 

[Extra Sauce]

"If only there was a way to make nuclear weapons more accessible to terrorists..."

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Tactical nukes were heavily discussed during the Bush presidency, with similar outrage. They were intended for bunker-busting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/30/usa.georgebush

http://progressive.org/magazine/bomb-bush-s-baby-nuke/

The project never really went anywhere, thankfully. They produced the MOAB instead. In whatever scenario you can come up with where a small nuke can do the job, a conventional weapon can typically do the job more or less as well but without the massive geopolitical ramifications.

Yes. Nukes aren't very tactical.
In the mindset of total war as was in WWII, it's just another weapon. Hence the Japanese bombings and also why firebombing Vietnam was allowed until the UN in 1980.

White Phosphorus still continues to be a problem.

 

[Lautaro]

Tactical nukes were heavily discussed during the Bush presidency, with similar outrage. They were intended for bunker-busting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/30/usa.georgebush

http://progressive.org/magazine/bomb-bush-s-baby-nuke/

The project never really went anywhere, thankfully. They produced the MOAB instead. In whatever scenario you can come up with where a small nuke can do the job, a conventional weapon can typically do the job more or less as well but without the massive geopolitical ramifications.

Came here to say the same. I guess most gaffers are too young to remember the outrage at the news.

A tactical nuke may be tactical for the military but its a dangerous political message to the world that could lead to proliferation.

 

[Morat]

Surely the terms 'nuclear weapon' and 'tactical' are oxymorons

EDIT

I understand the concept of 'low yield' weapons, but any use of these weapons would normalise nuclear warfare

 

[Nivash]

Surely the terms 'nuclear weapon' and 'tactical' are oxymorons

It's semantics, really. Tactical refers to dealing with something on the battle field, like an enemy position or formation. Strategic means going after their ability to wage war, like destroying their cities and factories. Nukes can do both. The only real reason that strategic nukes tend to be larger is because they're going after larger targets. The B-61 bomb can be used as both a strategic and nuclear weapon by "dialing in" the yield to correspond with the desired effect on target.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb

 

[n0razi]

Trump, this is a move that will make people hate you more. Do the opposite.

His base will love it

 

[ClosingADoor]

If you need a small nuke, just use regular bombs. Nukes are a last resort weapon, you really want to level cities when using them, so making them smaller is useless as hell.

 

[Moose Biscuits]

Who let Trump play Metal Gear? Who is responsible for this madness?

I hate trump as much as the next gaffer but if he made building a metal gear part of his platform I'd vote for the orange fuck if he could deliver it.

(I wouldn't)