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Twilight Princess HD officially announced.
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vainglorious
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Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game. But it was ugly as sin back then and holy shit is it still ugly now.
Pre-ordered.
Pre-ordered.
It's definitely a pretty substantial upgrade over the original. I think people forgot just how blurry and drab the Wii/GC one looked.
This is a "remaster," it's not a "remake." It looks prettier but they only went back and changed but so much from the original, hence it doesn't hold up to a game made from the ground up for WiiU or similarly powered hardware.
This is a "remaster," it's not a "remake." It looks prettier but they only went back and changed but so much from the original, hence it doesn't hold up to a game made from the ground up for WiiU or similarly powered hardware.
This is a huge upgrade imo. If you were expecting some sort of remake like the N64 games you were just being silly.
Based on all the evidence that we have, you can clearly see that dev time was super small. Giving it to an Australian team to crank out some nicer textures and clean up the smudge filter is a good call.
TP is one of the best Zelda games and I'm really looking forwards to play it again.
Based on all the evidence that we have, you can clearly see that dev time was super small. Giving it to an Australian team to crank out some nicer textures and clean up the smudge filter is a good call.
TP is one of the best Zelda games and I'm really looking forwards to play it again.
The Maverick
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I strongly disagree. Not even top 5.
Best thing: it's based off the true (GameCube) version! So everything is in its proper location.
The biggest offense that the original TP had was the really bad water refraction effect. It was so inaccurate it pains me. That and the typical GCN/Wii dithering will be great things to see gone.
I wish they would have improved the lighting in this somewhat.
The biggest offense that the original TP had was the really bad water refraction effect. It was so inaccurate it pains me. That and the typical GCN/Wii dithering will be great things to see gone.
I wish they would have improved the lighting in this somewhat.
TheGamingBox
Banned
what is gcn/wii dithering?
I only ever played the Wii version, but I'm actually glad that we're getting the GC version for the HD remaster. Since the Wii version is mirrored, I'll get to experience the world the way GC players did. That and I'd like to try this with traditional controls this time around.
I always liked the beginning to Twilight Princess. *shrugs*
Trevelyan9999
Banned
Yes Link is confirmed left handed again, nice!
That might get me to buy this. Much preferred the GC version of TP (have both), as the motion stuff sucks. If this is Zelda: TP GC HD with Off-TV play, may just be picking it up, after all.
GCN/Wii games run in 24-bit color. Dithering shows up primarily in transparency effects. This is about the only example image I can find right now:
GCN/Wii games aren't quite as bad as the left, as they use 24-bit and not 16-bit color. But the effect is just reduced, not eliminated.
Piston Hyundai
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Effigenius
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It's already on Gamecube and Wii. Really!?
1) It looks like ass on those systems.
2) to play the wii version forces you to use early, primitive waggle, not even wii motion plus.
3)" fine "you say, "I will play the GameCube version" that version will cost you three times as much and isn't even in widescreen.
Nostremitus
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They didn't change the visual style of either.
Looking at the gamexplain comparison video made me realize that old games look a lot better in my head. The power of the imagination is amazing. The texture work in the HD remake is light-years ahead of the Wii version. There are details in the remake that are simply non-existent in the Wii version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSjP7qxsSzk
EDIT: I played the GC version too, so it should have been even uglier for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSjP7qxsSzk
EDIT: I played the GC version too, so it should have been even uglier for me.
There are various factors, but the one most specific to those two consoles is the small eDRAM pool used for framebuffers. The consoles could only render to buffers using 24-bits-per-pixel or less.
The typical buffer format at the time on most platforms was 32bpp. You would devote 8 bits to each RGB color channel, plus an extra 8 bits for alpha (used for various stuff, such as transparencies).
On GCN/Wii, you could devote 8 bits to each color channel, but only if you didn't need the alpha channel.
If you did need the alpha channel, you were stuck with an alternate format using 6 bits per channel; for the RGB data, that's only a bit better than 16-bit color. If you render with no dithering to this format, you'd wind up with extremely nasty color banding. So, the console applied a built-in dither pattern to break up the banding.
Dagobert Duck
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Why is this march though? BEcause the have to produce the damn amiibos, right? 
Actually the GC version has better IQ because it isn't running in widescreen. Wii couldn't render a true 854x480 frame, so it was still 640x480 stretched out to 854x480. GC didn't do any stretching like this, although you did get a wider view in the Wii version.
Interesting. So maybe I played the prettier version.
Always-honest
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Yep. Game might look good enough for a HD version.
Textures and jaggies were the biggest problems in the original version. They're not going to change the artstyle.
After seeing the GameXplain video comparison between TP HD and TP Wii, I have to say that yes, the graphics look a lot better. I'm sure they will look fine on an HDTV now. It's just the art style that bugs me. I'm used to colorful Zelda games now, not that.
That being said, if they fix some of the early game and general gameplay, I'm sold.
That being said, if they fix some of the early game and general gameplay, I'm sold.
Mineshaft_Gap
4077th
This is that last game in the series I finished, and the I had a hard time bringing myself to do so. Really, truly not a fan.
Talk about false advertisement......why didn't the game get the same lighting treatment like the box art lmao.
Yeah, the GameXplain video has me coming around a little bit. It does look nice after I temper my expectations. I do wish for a little more in the lighting department, but the new textures and slight colour palette alterations (grass mainly) look very good. Some new lighting would really just push it over the edge into something special.
Also, just noticed
are on the box art.
Also, just noticed
Midna, and to a lesser extent, Ganon,
Mihael Mello Keehl
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That box art is some old ass artwork for the game. I got like 2 posters with this stuff on it lol
sammyCYBORG
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Wait this is the GC version?
If it is I won't be playing it. Everything reversed would fuck with my head.
If it is I won't be playing it. Everything reversed would fuck with my head.
Yes it is, its based on the superior and original GC version.
Actually, it's new in a few places. Link and Epona as well as Wolf Link and Midna have slightly different poses and Ganon/Illia are completely new compositions.
sammyCYBORG
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Always-honest
Banned
it will, haha. But it will also feel more like a new game.
ArcaneFreeze
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Considering I've never played the GCube version having a mirrored (aka correct) version of the world will be like I'm playing a brand new game all over again. It was like that when I played hero mode on OoT 3D and I cant wait to reexperience TP all over again, good thing i've held off on finishing my 4th playthrough last year.
I actually like the box art, the problem is the colors doesn't match the game play.
I played the Wii version a ton. Over one hundred hours when it first came out and that's just on one file.
Can you not see the value in experiencing the game in a new way?
I loved hero mode in OOT3D because I know that game like the back of my hand, and having to play it in reverse was a fun new challenge.
I guess I'm just a crazy person
We really need some comparison pictures so we can stop getting the whole looks just like GameCube argument. The textures are MUCH better.
AndyMoogle
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Me too. I never understood the complaints.
A full remake, apparently.
Dagobert Duck
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Tezzeractor
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Something more like the promotional art that was leaked beforehand.
I just think it's too early for Twilight Princess HD personally. And they didn't do a good job convincing me otherwise.
Still getting it day 1, but I hope the textures get a nicer upgrade. I'm on with everyone else when I say that dolphin emulator with mods looks better.
It's nice seeing the game cleaned up. But I think the comparison videos for the game isn't fair because your looking at a SD visual game with a HD screen. The game on a tube TV in it's original format looks much better, believe me.