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[Tams]

Financially, many of their games sell well.

Creatively... they are the only major studio still making mostly top level (AAA or what have you) games. Yes games, not the odd game every five years or more.

Sure, they can be fetch quests. If you moderate how you play them that's not really an issue though. And in return we do get big open worlds that do make you feel more like you're there.

Yes, Skyrim or the Witcher 3 have more varied content. But if you tire of the world they are set in? Well Ubisoft probably has a game set in something different for you.

Just Dance is pretty good.

And then there are their smaller, but more creative games.

I'm no fan of the microtransactions (expansions are great and some DLC is fine), and their cryto attempt was cringe and sad. But they aren't too bad in that regard.

Their games could be better, but it is sad to see that they aren't doing well financially recently. Hopefully it's just because of the number of cancelled games more than poor sales.


And anyway, once they make and sell an Assassin's Creed set in Japan, they are going to do absolute gangbusters. Hell, I think even a Division set there would do well if they got the whole Neo-Tokyo vibe down.

 

[dcx4610]

I actually like their games more than not. My only problem is their AAA games are very similar. Watch Dogs, Far Cry and Assassin's Creed all have the same generic gameplay mechanics. Big open world, tons of things to unlock, unlock fort/tower/building for fast travel, repeat.

Also, their PC DNR and forced Ubisoft Connect software is obnoxious. Games wise though, I think they are well made and usually run really well. I'm playing "Outland" from several years ago currently and it's a lot of fun and unique. Their indie stuff is especially interesting.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

They put out more new IP then most 3rd party publishers.

EA and Activision have been almost ghost in this area outside for a few attempts like Overwatch and Anthem.

We saw new IP from both single player to MP from Ubisoft last gen.

Watchdogs
Valiant Hearts
Child Of Light
For Honor
The Crew
Grow Home
Zombi
Steep
The Division
Mario + Rabbids RPG (name escaped me)
South Park rpgs
Starlink
Hyper Scape
Fenxy Rising
Rider Republic

and I'm sure I'm missing a few.

The point is...they tried. Clearly not all on that list was some massive 20 mill seller, but they tried. Not a single fucking person can really say all of that is just AC and Far Cry or something. I've said this many, many times....they do more then EA and Activision and its like many of you don't seem to realize that.

So if they are in trouble, maybe its because they took more risk then most..

This.

I give them tonnes of credit for this.

I even enjoy their AC games. The last two Far Cry games were stale though. I wanted so bad to get into The Division 2, but I couldn't get past how poor it looked visually, together with the (imho) uninteresting setting.

I think they need to stop making their open-world games so large that they end up being a chore to play. And they needed to get Beyond Good and Evil 2 into full production and properly resource the project to get in finished.

 

[kiphalfton]

Shouldn't this be side view?

Side and front view are the same thing if it's a conical shape.

 

[MScarpa]

I love Ubisoft.

 

[levyjl1988]

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

They're too big, passion is gone and motivated devs and creatives are silenced by the inertia like in any big structure. They only see money and how to print it.

 

[Kacho]

I love Ubisoft.

A lot of us still buy their games despite the homogeneous design problems. Ubisoft just needs jesus. Or better managers, idk.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Their games just aren't very interesting imo. Many feel focused grouped into creation, and the others seem like attempts but without much soul put into them. Mario + Rabbids is a rare exception that really did feel like a passion project.

 

[SvRomanov87]

The talant is still there. They lack management, proper game director an the aim to delived whole and quality products from day 1.

 

[yurinka]

brought to you by the same people that kept telling us COD is failing....

They are doing sooooo bad, they are setting all sorts of records.

How the fuck they keeping the lights on next month? R.I.P, Remember folks, its true cause a youtuber said it.... /s

Ubisoft H1 2022 earnings report shows Far Cry 6 sales in line with Assassin's Creed Odyssey's launch

We'll have to wait another six months to find out if Far Cry 6 can keep pace with the Vikings.

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Ubisoft earnings 2022: Far Cry 6 behind brand's "best year ever"

Ahead of tonight's Ubisoft earnings call, the publisher confirms the Far Cry series has had its "best year ever", though net revenue declined on FY2021

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Assassin's Creed Valhalla Reaches an Impressive 20 Million Players

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I mean, this thread spends more time making memes and saying "failing" then giving any factual data to back any of it up. Thats like me fucking saying Zelda is "fAiLiNgz" and just post memes and shit, lets ignore 20 million plus units sold?

Several other games / series also have been doing a great job, like Rainbow Six, The Division, The Crew 2, For Honor or (even if their most recent entries underperformed on their launch window) Just Dance or Mario + Rabbids.

 

[TheKratos]

The fact that OP uses a bunch of specifically searched Youtube vids to start his argument and end with literal meme crap cracks me up.

On a serious note, Ubisoft holds some great franchises (Far Cry, AC, Splinter Cell to name a few) but the execution is inconsistent. Still not a terrible company by any means, it ain't no Konami.

 

[Damigos]

Assassins Creed is the only relevant franchise they have left

 

[ParaSeoul]

I don't know about that because there's plenty of other companies that make bad games but somehow they're doing well

 

[Aaron Olive]

"Ubisoft is failing because their games suck..."
Also let's not forget the false advertising.

 

[Shubh_C63]

I don't like a big life less husk of a game with bad mission structure/writing but goddamn people love playing Assassins Creed.

Edit - I have faith in Division and Massive. Avatar if is in veins with Division 1 should surprise people.

 

[HAYA8U5A]

Most of their games are not that bad to me but they need to cut down on the bloat that kills the enjoyment and be a little more consistent since the quality in some of their series can bounce all over the place between games.

 

[RyRy93]

They should be halving their output and increasing the quality of what they are releasing, they don't give their big releases anywhere near the time they deserve.

I believe they could compete with the best in the industry if they gave their developers a bit more time and freedom.

 

[anthony2690]

I'd be more concerned that you watch videos and listen to Dreamcast guy and yongyea, both awful YouTubers that get views from negativity.

& No idea who the others but also probably trying to get a boost with negativity.

I do think Ubisoft has fallen off the wagon a bit with their pursuit of live service games.

But they have still put out some incredibly unique and popular games over the years.

& They atleast try with new ip.

I think their biggest sin is abandoning ubi-art games personally.

I hope they can turn it around for themselves.

 

[Bragr]

There are quite a lot of videos detailing Ubisoft's failures out there.

Why can't Ubisoft release great games anymore?
Their latest games aren't something attractive. When I see their games it's a fucking exercise in which edition to buy, I mean you would have to resort to a fucking chart to make your purchase. It's a pointless menial exercise to confuse buyers.
A lot of their games are riddled with shitty microtransactions, season passes, and time savers. You have content split between ones where you can purchase from the PS/ Xbox store, Uplay, and other crap. Nothing is focused.
Their quest design is boring and made of tedious fetch quests and collect-a-thons.
Ubisoft really sucks and it's in their logo, it's a top view of a piece of shit.

Braindead Youtube idiots with no knowledge of anything and bad memes, is that your reasoning? How old you are?

 

[Thebonehead]

The last two ubisoft games I've bought have been Valhalla and Fenyx.

Assassin's creed I dropped after a few hours, just too late for the refund.

Fenyx on the other hand I played to completion and really enjoyed. That game wasn't a critical hit though. I have no idea how it did commercially.

So that was over two years ago now. Just looking at my previous purchase history they've normally taken money off me every year. But there is nothing of interest so far they've announced.

2019: Trials, division 2
2018: Assassin's creed odyssey, FC5
2017: Assassin's creed origins, ghost recon Wildlands
2016: the division, For honour.
2015: rainbow six siege.
2014: Far cry 4, watchdogs, child of light, south park.
2013: Assassin's creed black flag, Rayman legends, splinter cell.

 

[[Sigma]]

I believe the last Ubisoft games I bought were the South Park games. Other than that, I haven't bought any other Ubisoft game in probably 10 years. To me it feels like Ubisoft is fundamentally broken. Ubisoft games tend to lack inspiration to me and instead feel built just to suck many hours of my life away. Huge worlds full of trash unnecessary missions rather than having a game with great gameplay, story and variety. The people who have control over what is greenlit needed to be fired a long time ago. I don't care how successful Ubisoft actually is, they don't have regular customer in me until I see a fundamental change in the way they development games.

 

[Lions Gate]

They are just wildly inconsistent imo. division 2 was quite good. Odyssey was good. Rayman Legends is amazing. Mario + Rabbids is good.

Being not terrible doesn't make them good, mediocre at best

 

[eastcoastkody]

The Division is good. Division 2 is alright gameplay wise. Watch dogs was decent. Watchdogs 2 is great. Watchdogs Legion's play as everyone gimmick is one of the most interesting game mechanics since the Nemesis system. Far Cry 5 is fun. The new AC games are all good. Could and should be better, but still no less than good. Ghost Recon breakpoint has improved enough since launch that at least gameplay wise its worth messing around with. Far Cry Primal and Blood Dragon are both good.

What i played of Ghost Recon Wildlands was kinda awesome.

Immortal Fenyx rising is kinda bleh. Not bad. Not that good either. Hyperscape sucked. Had cool guns and abilities but bad everything else. The just dance games are good. Haven't really played any of the others. I still really want to try Riders Republic

so Ubisoft is actually one of the most solid big name publishers.

 

[winjer]

Yes, most games Ubisoft releases lately are mediocre.

 

[Kenpachii]

AC games have be excellent. Just there pricing level at launch is shit.
Fenix game botw knockoff was also excellent.

 

[Bonfires Down]

I love The Division, and Far Cry, and Assassin's Creed, and even Watch Dogs. Immortals seems like a lot of fun. I certainly understand the complaints lobbied against them but I have different priorities than those people.

I will say though that the setting of AC Valhalla and Far Cry 6 hasn't really enticed me. And their F2P games look pretty lame.

 

[HL3.exe]

If for some reason Ubi would disappear and all their IP would die with them: years later YouTubers would be making videos like "I really miss Ubisoft" and get all nostalgic.

They know how the clickbait algorithm works, like they do now with all the lazy dunk videos. Copying all their braindead take from each other.

Instead of actually intelligently dissecting why their design and business strategies seem to stagnate in the context of the wider industry or technical evolutions.

 

[Sticks]

If they had released the PoP remake already things would've been fine. And Splinter Cell

 

[KungFucius]

They are doing poorly because they released no big games since Far Cry, changed Just Dance, a fucking party game you play for a few weeks, into an always online pain in the ass, and expected their Mario game to somehow carry them.

If they kept AC as a yearly or every other year game without trying to make it a GaaS bloat fest, things would look different. Heck even if they released another Valhalla in 20022, things would look better.

 

[Three]

I would love a breakdown of how their games are different to say EA, Activision or Take2.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Western publishers, EA, Ubisoft, Activision specifically have burned a lot of their IPs to the ground and ran out of ideas.

 

[Moses85]

Where are the news? Their games suck since years.

Started with the downgraded Watchdogs, GTA wannabe clone.

Far Cry is dead for me since Primal

AC Franchise died with AC3

EA and Ubisoft

 

[The_Mike]

Because they make the same shitty games over and over again. Ass creed, far cry or wokedogs that noone cares about.

20 years ago they made much more creative games such beyond good and evil, pop sands of time etc.

Hopefully they fold as a company soon.

Woke isn't the problem, some of the most sold blockbuster games are woke.

The problem is all Ubisoft games are the same. The difference is if they are first or third person, the rest is a bloated mess with heavy grind and alot of collectible shit.

Watch dogs 2 sucked because it was so different to the first one, and because it was super cringe with that hipster shit.

 

[Robb]

I'm not sure, I feel AC is a bit stale/formulaic but the games are pretty solid. Same with FarCry.

Seems to me they've burned loads of cash on projects that never release and never will release like Skull and Bones, Beyond Good and Evil 2, Prince of Persia Remake and the now 7 cancelled projects..

Doesn't seem like many of their new IPs were much of a hit either (?) like Riders Republic or Immortals. And upcoming stuff like Xdefiant just looks like a copy paste arena shooter that'll be dead within 6 months.

 

[Ziglax]

They are very good at making worlds, but awfull at making playing in these worlds interesting, engaging and fun.
I feel sorry for all the talented artists and developpers working there, seeing their talent wasted by greedy executives trying to suck up the maximum money out of the same short-term dopamine-optimized gameplay loop in every single game.
They 100% deserve this, and they had it coming.

 

[dDoc]

How the fuck they keeping the lights on next month? R.I.P, Remember folks, its true cause a youtuber said it.... /s

OK they might be selling well. IMH most of their output is still shit tier quality wise.

 

[pleaseinsertdisctwo]

I've always hated Ubisoft. Always. The animations in their games are unbelievably janky and bad, and their games always feel like they've been designed by AI.

 

[chromatic9]

I've really enjoyed AC Origins and Odyssey, looking forward to the next AC game. I skipped Valhalla but looking at the charts it seemed to have sold very well. They should also make more focused AC games, mix it up bit.

Problem probably lies with their games in general and lack of innovation and if you're a fan of one of their games, it will be tough to play others. I couldn't play Far Cry open world, they all feel copy pasted and even the AC open world games could do with more impact. A fun elaborate find will be just some throw away armour at the end. They have potential to be incredible worlds with engaging progression but often are by the numbers games/missions on repeat with redundant rewards.

It's a tough industry with so many cheaply made online games succeeding, big ideas falling flat. The risk factor is quite scary, you can plough a lot of money and expertise in a gaas game and not make it back, same with single player games. We're talking about the best part of a decade of peoples lives making a game, it's a weird time and I'd be happy with shorter time frames and lower budgets from the talented people.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Anno 1800 is great, AC Odyssey was great, R6S is still being played a lot, The Division 1 has one of the best atmospheres ever made, The Division 2 was fun, Far Cry 3 and 5 were fucking great, Watch Dogs 2 was great. Thats about it in the last few years that i enjoyed from them which is a lot more than most other companies. They have gone extremely downhill AGAIN but just like they rebooted their stuff with AC Origins and WD2 and Far Cry, they'll prolly do it again until they fall down the greedy rabid hole. Their leadership is absolutely dog shit. They have the creativity and manpower to make unique stuff all the time, and sometimes they do it gains success and then they milk it to the fucking ground. I hate them for this. They ruined a lot of franchises I loved. Hopefully, this past few years is a wake-up call for them and stop being a bunch of greedy idiots.

 

[Sophist]

brought to you by the same people that kept telling us COD is failing....

They are doing sooooo bad, they are setting all sorts of records.

How the fuck they keeping the lights on next month? R.I.P, Remember folks, its true cause a youtuber said it.... /s

Ubisoft H1 2022 earnings report shows Far Cry 6 sales in line with Assassin's Creed Odyssey's launch

We'll have to wait another six months to find out if Far Cry 6 can keep pace with the Vikings.

www.shacknews.com

Ubisoft earnings 2022: Far Cry 6 behind brand's "best year ever"

Ahead of tonight's Ubisoft earnings call, the publisher confirms the Far Cry series has had its "best year ever", though net revenue declined on FY2021

www.pcgamesn.com

Assassin's Creed Valhalla Reaches an Impressive 20 Million Players

Odin is with us

www.pushsquare.com

I mean, this thread spends more time making memes and saying "failing" then giving any factual data to back any of it up. Thats like me fucking saying Zelda is "fAiLiNgz" and just post memes and shit, lets ignore 20 million plus units sold?

The company expects an operating loss of €500 million ($538 million) for the current fiscal year, it said in a statement Wednesday, compared to an operating profit of €400 million it forecast when it published its most recent results.

That's almost a difference of one billion euros. You guys don't realize how bad Ubisoft situation is.

 

[Gaiff]

I've always hated Ubisoft. Always. The animations in their games are unbelievably janky and bad, and their games always feel like they've been designed by AI.

What about their earlier stuff from before the days of Assassin's Creed? The old Rayman games, Splinter Cell 1 through 3, Rainbow Six Vegas/2, GRAW, Prince of Persia Sands of Time, Beyond Good and Evil. I'd argue early 2000s Ubisoft was one of the better AAA developers.

 

[JCK75]

Make shitty games+ side with Epic Games Store= nothing of value was lost

 

[pleaseinsertdisctwo]

What about their earlier stuff from before the days of Assassin's Creed? The old Rayman games, Splinter Cell 1 through 3, Rainbow Six Vegas/2, GRAW, Prince of Persia Sands of Time, Beyond Good and Evil. I'd argue early 2000s Ubisoft was one of the better AAA developers.

My last experience with "older Ubisoft" was PoP: Two Thrones and it had the typical horrible Ubisoft combat, janky animations, and tons of bugs and glitches.

 

[Jigsaah]

All I know is that I couldn't play Valhalla for more than 5 hours without thinking..."Man is this even an Assassin game anymore?" Here's hoping for Mirage.

And where is that Splinter Cell hmmmmmmm?

 

[Ronin_7]

AC Origins & R6 Siege were great.

 

[Ywap]

Many Ubi games are awesome imo. They just need to get them out in a timely manner.

The last AAA were Far Cry 6, no full game since. Sure, Extraction and the Ragnarok DLC were great but i think for such a big company they probably need 2 big releases/year.

 

[64gigabyteram]

Clearly not all on that list was some massive 20 mill seller, but they tried.

They've got South Park and Mario on their side. there's no reason almost all of that stuff shouldnt be 20+ mil

this aint it chief

 

[Chiggs]

ME FOUND YOUTUBERS WHO MADE SOME VIDEOS! ME MAKE THREAD!

 

[Kacho]

ME FOUND YOUTUBERS WHO MADE SOME VIDEOS! ME MAKE THREAD!

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