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[LocoMrPollock]

So this guy is well knowned or something? Do we still have proof its cracked? (not that I would be surprised mind you)

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Yeah, he is a pretty well "knowned" dude. I saw him at 7-11 the other day. Him and his fellow "knowned" dudes were enjoying some big gulps. I said "yo, what's up skid-row" he said "pirates be pirating and shit."

The end.

 

[arstal]

I'm probably gonna buy this game now that I can use the crack on it to get rid of that internet DRM bullshit.

Which will send the wrong message. The only way to get rid of Ubi DRM is to not buy their games until they get rid of it. Our anger at DRM means squat if we're not willing to say no sale to games that have it.

 

[DieH@rd]

Do we still have proof its cracked?

Russian PC version of Assassins Creed 2 is also cracked [it has eng text and voiceovers]...

 

[neorej]

Maybe some people like legitimately playing their games.

Besides, it's confirmed that the cracks aren't completely working.

Thinking this DRM POS will work and playing a legit game are two seperate things. If you can't see that, well... I'm sorry.

Which will send the wrong message. The only way to get rid of Ubi DRM is to not buy their games until they get rid of it. Our anger at DRM means squat if we're not willing to say no sale to games that have it.

Maybe it'll send the right message if Ubi compares the number of connected games and the actual sales. If only 10% of the games sold is connecting to their DRM-server,maybe they'll realise "hey, ppl like the game enough to buy it, they just don't want to be hassled with the DRM bullshit we built in..."

 

[dankir]

Has there been any sort of draconian DRM like the one imposed by Ubisoft that hasn't been cracked already?

 

[Shai-Tan]

Russian PC version of Assassins Creed 2 is also cracked [it has eng text and voiceovers]...

from what I read the game isn't actually playable normally

same for the other game, won't load games, has many triggers that weren't removed

 

[Effect]

Maybe it'll send the right message if Ubi compares the number of connected games and the actual sales. If only 10% of the games sold is connecting to their DRM-server,maybe they'll realise "hey, ppl like the game enough to buy it, they just don't want to be hassled with the DRM bullshit we built in..."

This is what I was thinking. They will be able to see how many are connected. If the difference is significant that will be the only message in regard to DRM they see and understand. What I fear might happen though is they will see the difference and not care. They still get the sales and in the end that's all they care about. That's where not buying would be a good idea.

 

[Sipowicz]

in this case the DRM being cracked was good for everyone.

pointless, intrusive bullshit. Ubisoft can suck my cock

 

[KingOfF00LS]

Good. Pricks. Learn from the Galactic Civilizations II model.

 

[Shai-Tan]

in this case the DRM being cracked was good for everyone.

pointless, intrusive bullshit. Ubisoft can suck my cock

It WAS NOT cracked. It may be in the future but the thread title is wrong.

 

[Madman]

The article is wrong and old. The game is not playable.

Is there any validity to this post? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but GAF does tend to just take something that the internet said as truth instantly.

And really, the road this all is going down is...actually, I'll just stop myself.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

I'll never buy a game with DRM other than Steam

 

[Shai-Tan]

It's true. Read around. The submarine game won't load games and has triggers that make it unplayable. The Russian crack for Assassin's Creed 2 has a workaround to get the animus working but the game fails when loading missions.

 

[Cowie]

Is there any validity to this post? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but GAF does tend to just take something that the internet said as truth instantly.

And really, the road this all is going down is...actually, I'll just stop myself.

I did some very cursory web searching, and yeah, it looks like the crack isn't 100% functional. Ubi put out a statement saying 'the game isn't really cracked, guys.' People were like 'u mad!' but, Ubi was right.

 

[badyu17]

Poor legit customers with this annoying DRM stuff. It's getting ridiculous :lol

 

[wolfmat]

The crack might actually be broken, but it's a sign of what's to come, I think. Give 'em a few days to work out the kinks. As always, it's a matter of dedication on their part.

 

[Ducarmel]

Is it really cracked because it seems like people are skeptical.

 

[Lonely1]

Is it really cracked because it seems like people are skeptical.

Probably the game can boot now, but it will be missing stuff while playing it.

 

[V_Arnold]

Fuck the crackers.

Do not buy the game, vote with your wallet, but this?
Can Ubisoft not pursue some legal action against these people?

I am simply amazed by the sheer arrogance some people get when anonymity comes to play. I would watch these idiots try to crack the security a nightclub, only to get escorted out by security. The rough way.

Who are these idiots who believe they can do anything just because "it is the internet"?

 

[drkOne]

From what I read, if you apply the crack properly, it'll work. It seems to involve deleting some files. Just reporting what I read, could be wrong.

Fuck the crackers.

Do not buy the game, vote with your wallet, but this?
Can Ubisoft not pursue some legal action against these people?

I am simply amazed by the sheer arrogance some people get when anonymity comes to play. I would watch these idiots try to crack the security a nightclub, only to get escorted out by security. The rough way.

Who are these idiots who believe they can do anything just because "it is the internet"?

Wow, where have you been for the past… oh, nevermind.

 

[lilltias]

none of the games are cracked. hackers need better pr

 

[V_Arnold]

From what I read, if you apply the crack properly, it'll work. It seems to involve deleting some files. Just reporting what I read, could be wrong.


Wow, where have you been for the past… oh, nevermind.

I do not know.
Maybe it is just being a World of Warcraft subscriber, but after the initial shock of not being able to... PLAY when you are not connected to the internet, I simply have gotten used to it. So it was not a big deal initially to begin with, if that was the way Ubi decided to keep their games.

Of course, it is not a good solution, but customers either respect that, or dont. That still does not mean anyone should get away with cracking the system.

 

[wolfmat]

Fuck the crackers.

Do not buy the game, vote with your wallet, but this?
Can Ubisoft not pursue some legal action against these people?

I am simply amazed by the sheer arrogance some people get when anonymity comes to play. I would watch these idiots try to crack the security a nightclub, only to get escorted out by security. The rough way.

Who are these idiots who believe they can do anything just because "it is the internet"?

These idiots have been doing this for about 25 years, are partly responsible for quite a range of amazing realtime graphics effects, compression methods, reverse engineering studies and other stuff.
These idiots actually improve the quality of product every day by trying to break security measures.

Ubisoft can initiate legal actions, sure. It's not so easy to find the key people though. Crack releases like this are the tip of the iceberg, the body mass is mostly made up of the huge secret organization that is the cracking scene.

The secrecy has been kept up since the old days of von Gravenreuth (RIP) and so on. Ubi knows this, and there's also mutual respect.

Don't forget that this is not professional product piracy like the one you see in Brazil or China. This is an organized intellectual endeavor by the most experienced hackers and reverse engineers alive.

 

[LiK]

New DRM method: you can't play the game unless you buy it from Ubisoft's CEO where he hands you a unique code himself

 

[word up]

I do not know.
Maybe it is just being a World of Warcraft subscriber, but after the initial shock of not being able to... PLAY when you are not connected to the internet, I simply have gotten used to it. So it was not a big deal initially to begin with, if that was the way Ubi decided to keep their games.

Of course, it is not a good solution, but customers either respect that, or dont. That still does not mean anyone should get away with cracking the system.

There is a big difference between a game like WoW which has a inbuilt and necessary reliance on online game servers requiring you to be online to play, and AC2 requiring it for a single player game in some counter-productive attempt to stop software pirates which if it hasn't been defeated yet will very soon be.

It's just a new twist on the old mistake of punishing legitimate customers and treating them like thieves.

 

[Hawkian]

Heard Ubisoft patched the AC2 DRM such that it doesn't kick you to the last checkpoint but actually save states?

Nice of them.

 

[epmode]

I do not know.
Maybe it is just being a World of Warcraft subscriber, but after the initial shock of not being able to... PLAY when you are not connected to the internet, I simply have gotten used to it.

World of Warcraft is a massively multiplayer online game. Assassin's Creed is a single player game. Big difference.

edit: Beaten, of course.

 

[V_Arnold]

There is a big difference between a game like WoW which has a inbuilt and necessary reliance on online game servers requiring you to be online to play, and AC2 requiring it for a single player game in some counter-productive attempt to stop software pirates which if it hasn't been defeated yet will very soon be.

It's just a new twist on the old mistake of punishing legitimate customers and treating them like thieves.

I know it is an MMO compared to a single player game. Stuff is once you get used to the restrictions, it is not a big deal for a single player for some. For me, it would not have been a big deal.

But: the point is, punishing legitimate customers still does not justify cracking the system. It justifies skipping the game, nothing else.

 

[drkOne]

I do not know.
Maybe it is just being a World of Warcraft subscriber, but after the initial shock of not being able to... PLAY when you are not connected to the internet, I simply have gotten used to it. So it was not a big deal initially to begin with, if that was the way Ubi decided to keep their games.

Of course, it is not a good solution, but customers either respect that, or dont. That still does not mean anyone should get away with cracking the system.

Every PC game (at least the big ones that matter) get cracked. That's why I didn't understand your surprise.

It was known that every scene group would be rushing to crack this DRM. It's sort of useless to try to boost sales with something like this. You're screwing the customer. The ones that know what's happening will probably not even care about the game. Ubi might even be lucky and score some sales from people who'll buy the game and then apply the crack.

And it's not that easy to take some legal action against the more serious groups. They've been around for so long, so many companies want to take them down. I doubt it's that easy to do it, or else it'd have been done a long time ago.

That said, I can understand your anger. I still think that people who download pirated games are worse than crackers. They don't do it to make companies go bankrupt. (If I'm not mistaken Razor 1911 hold the release of their Chronicles of Riddick: AoDA crack for 2 weeks out of respect for Atari, might be bs tho) But you should be used to it happening, and it won't be changing any soon.

 

[Kaako]

Ha ha. It was inevitable.

 

[drkOne]

I know it is an MMO compared to a single player game. Stuff is once you get used to the restrictions, it is not a big deal for a single player for some. For me, it would not have been a big deal.

But: the point is, punishing legitimate customers still does not justify cracking the system. It justifies skipping the game, nothing else.

They didn't feel screwed by the DRM, they'd crack the game regardless.
Ubisoft is punishing the legit consumer, so the crackers are kind of helping the ones who want to buy the game but don't want to put up with this stupid DRM (not meaning that that's their main intention. I guess they just do it to prove how good they are at what they do and for the challenge).

I prefer it this way. I want to play SC: Conviction on my PC, but if a crack doesn't come out I'll just have to end up getting the 360 version instead, because I don't want to be bothered by this stupid DRM.

 

[Beaulieu]

Ha ha. It was inevitable.

Read the thread junior
game isnt cracked, full version not playable, yada yada.

 

[Stumpokapow]

With MMOs, the downside (you must be connected to the internet) is connected to an upside (facilitates actually having an MMO). With DRM, the downside is not connected to an upside for customers. With nightclub security, there's absolutely no downside and the upside is that people who negatively impact your experience are removed from the club.

Let's leave behind this doubly terrible comparison.

 

[epmode]

Read the thread junior

Stay classy, GAF.

 

[JADS]

I know it is an MMO compared to a single player game. Stuff is once you get used to the restrictions, it is not a big deal for a single player for some. For me, it would not have been a big deal.

But: the point is, punishing legitimate customers still does not justify cracking the system. It justifies skipping the game, nothing else.

I want a good game to be successful, so I do support game publishers. Its just that pirates always seem to get the superior product, while it should be the other way. They don't have to jump trough all kinds of strange hoops to get the game working. I travel a lot, why cant I play a game that I legally own because I am not connected to the Internet? Even steam allows me to play most games without being connected to the internet, why cant this game do that aswell?

 

[Kaako]

Read the thread junior
game isnt cracked, full version not playable, yada yada.

Silly billy, who said anything about the full game?

 

[Fularu]

Read the thread junior
game isnt cracked, full version not playable, yada yada.

It hasen't been "cleanly" cracked, but it is.

 

[Shai-Tan]

It hasen't been "cleanly" cracked, but it is.

that's a distinction without a difference

 

[Doytch]

Silly billy, who said anything about the full game?

This reads like a "I was being sarcastic/joking" reply.

 

[Instro]

There hasnt even been a legitimate attempt at cracking AC by the usual groups because the NA version isnt out yet, just a Russian leaked version floating around and as far as I've heard it doesnt work.

The article is referring to Silent Hunter 5,which uses the same DRM, being cracked by skid row, which at the moment apparently doesnt work right, from what ive read a few of the game files are stored on Ubi's side of things which is what is causing the problem. Same problem with the version of AC2 floating around as well.

I cant imagine the DRM will last but its what a day or so since Silent Hunter 5 was released so I guess Ubi is doing something right.

 

[Fularu]

that's a distinction without a difference

Actually there are worlds of difference. A clean crack is an easy install, copy over the cracked exe, enjoy. The game is cracked but it's still tricky, just like Win7 is cracked and requiered tricky steps to make it work.

A hard to apply crack doesn't mean the game or the DRM hasen't been cracked.

 

[Kraut]

Justice at work. Looking forward to what they come up with to replace this shitty DRM.

 

[Shai-Tan]

Actually there are worlds of difference. A clean crack is an easy install, copy over the cracked exe, enjoy. The game is cracked but it's still tricky, just like Win7 is cracked and requiered tricky steps to make it work.

A hard to apply crack doesn't mean the game or the DRM hasen't been cracked.

The Russian crack that requires extra steps doesn't actually work and fails. All is does is temporarily allow the user to have the animus and play a little bit.

 

[Kaako]

This reads like a "I was being sarcastic/joking" reply.

Na, I just made it lighthearted. I originally had 'silly peasant' instead of silly billy. Before posting though I saw epmode's post and decided to stay a bit more classy haha.
Also, I assumed we're all talking about the DRM since the thread title as well as OP is about the DRM being cracked within less than a day.

 

[Dandare4444]

Surely only a matter of time before fully functional crack is out there..

 

[eznark]

Fuck the crackers.

Do not buy the game, vote with your wallet, but this?
Can Ubisoft not pursue some legal action against these people?

I am simply amazed by the sheer arrogance some people get when anonymity comes to play. I would watch these idiots try to crack the security a nightclub, only to get escorted out by security. The rough way.

Who are these idiots who believe they can do anything just because "it is the internet"?

I see nothing wrong with buying the game and using a crack to play it however you want.

 

[Hawkian]

Read the thread junior

Seriously can we cut this shit out already?

Stay classy, GAF.

.

 

[panda21]

i don't think comments on whatever sites you guys are seeing this proves its not a working crack, because those people are idiots. they probably couldnt even install the legal version of the game.

secondly, assuming that this crack doesnt work because ubisofts protection is so amazing despite the fact it has been released, is just as stupid as assuming that this crack works having not used it. BUT i don't know how much you know about cracker culture, but honour and respect are a huge part of it. a group releasing a non-working crack will be disgraced and other groups will be racing to make the first working crack. its going to get done.

 

[Pandaman]

ITT: ubi apologists conveniently forgetting that silent hunter is fully cracked and playable, the DRM is compromised. all that is left is minor detail work to clean up the assassins creed crack.

odds are ass creed will be fully playable before it even sees its street date.

 

[wolfmat]

i don't think comments on whatever sites you guys are seeing this proves its not a working crack, because those people are idiots. they probably couldnt even install the legal version of the game.

Well, I certainly can't try it out without buying the game or pirating it, can I? Both is out of the question at this point.

Someone who's got a legit copy of AC2 should try the crack and report.