Mattlikewhoa
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WanderingWind said:
Same here...I don't know why they would have thought this would have been a good idea...Well shit rolls down hill so....
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Same here...I don't know why they would have thought this would have been a good idea...Well shit rolls down hill so....
charlequin
Banned
Dunlop said:
Sooooooooo.
How's that workin' out for ya?
I'm kind of curious how many consumers Ubisoft saw losing with this DRM. I was thinking of buying the game on steam when it came out, but this whole DRM business just completely turned me off from it. I'm not going to pirate it, but I sure as hell won't be buying it. I've heard the whole cyclical argument with pirates, but what about the consumers who just won't buy the game due to debilitating DRM? I pirated Fallout 3, but I'm buying that game as soon as I can scrounge up the cash. I was just curious if it would be a game for me.
Confidence Man
Member
luka said:
He's informing the appropriate authorities.
infinityBCRT
Member
I honestly thought the Ubisoft online integration was intriguing. Looks like they didn't really make the games for this system and instead did a poor job of taking a fully offline game and put some files on the server from what people have been saying.
When you look at the best selling (hardcore) PC games, many of them are from Blizzard. And what Blizzard does better than anyone is online integration. Theres a compelling reason to have that online access.
Some ways I think its sad that GFW has been such a mess by Microsoft. If they were able to make an out of game client (perhaps as a plug-in to windows live messenger) and an in-game client which required a valid cd-key (and had made it free from the get go) I think it would be more compelling for freeloaders to buy games just so they could get access to that unified friends list and all the features that come with that (party chat, cross game invites, in-game MSN).
When you look at the best selling (hardcore) PC games, many of them are from Blizzard. And what Blizzard does better than anyone is online integration. Theres a compelling reason to have that online access.
Some ways I think its sad that GFW has been such a mess by Microsoft. If they were able to make an out of game client (perhaps as a plug-in to windows live messenger) and an in-game client which required a valid cd-key (and had made it free from the get go) I think it would be more compelling for freeloaders to buy games just so they could get access to that unified friends list and all the features that come with that (party chat, cross game invites, in-game MSN).
tahrikmili
Member
luka said:
Now, young Skywalker.. You die.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
It had a good run.
rollingstart
Banned
in the end, all it comes down to is: If there is a crack for Splinter Cell Conviction or any change to the DRM, I will buy it on PC. If there isn't, I'll rent it on 360 or pass on it entirely. I just want to play the game without them treating me like a criminal. If I pay money for the product, stop fucking around and give me my product.
That game even has a multiplayer mode and they could just have that be the part that requires an online check. My problem is that I have Comcast internet that goes out from time to time. Just theo ther day when playing the single player campaign for Bad Company 2, my internet went out. Knowing that if I wanted to play Splinter Cell my internet going out would mean I'd have to stop playing is bullshit. Or even during the big east coast storm. I managed to finish Bioshock 2 during a day when my internet went out and I was trapped inside. It's terribly inconvenient for the consumer.
What makes this extra awful is that Ubisoft is charging $60, or $10 more than the standard cost, for their games now. Extra cost + the gamble that you won't even be able to play the game = sodomizing the product's value. The barrier to get entertained is absurd. The best part is that it is a lose-lose situation. You buy it, you're screwed over for wanting to enjoy your entertainment. You don't buy it, they have no reason to support the platform anymore. They make an incredibly unappealing product and will complain when it doesn't sell.
That game even has a multiplayer mode and they could just have that be the part that requires an online check. My problem is that I have Comcast internet that goes out from time to time. Just theo ther day when playing the single player campaign for Bad Company 2, my internet went out. Knowing that if I wanted to play Splinter Cell my internet going out would mean I'd have to stop playing is bullshit. Or even during the big east coast storm. I managed to finish Bioshock 2 during a day when my internet went out and I was trapped inside. It's terribly inconvenient for the consumer.
What makes this extra awful is that Ubisoft is charging $60, or $10 more than the standard cost, for their games now. Extra cost + the gamble that you won't even be able to play the game = sodomizing the product's value. The barrier to get entertained is absurd. The best part is that it is a lose-lose situation. You buy it, you're screwed over for wanting to enjoy your entertainment. You don't buy it, they have no reason to support the platform anymore. They make an incredibly unappealing product and will complain when it doesn't sell.
CabbageRed
Member
Thyrus said:
So you didn't pay for your collectors edition of ME2 but still downloaded it. Sounds like pirating to me! :O
CabbageRed
Member
I'm now finding myself torn. While I initially rejected this DRM outright, if it proves effective over the next few months and Ubisoft were to change "we will patch it out when we kill to servers" to "we will patch it out in one year's time," I think I could get on board.
Paco said:
I really don't think too many of us are missing console exclusives...
I'm trying really hard to think of a single game that came out last year that is not coming to the PC that I'm torn up about...I can't think of any, but there might be a few. But I can name a lot more games coming to the PC only, or at least only really to the PC (ie Dragon Age).
Dunlop said:
Right now I only have Steam games installed, and Torment which I can't get the No CD crack to work with, but I really want to install something with the No CD key just to post a picture of it for you.
But thanks for assuming all us PC enthusiasts, who probably spend hundreds if not more a year keeping PC games afloat, are dirty pirates.
What happened to good old fashioned serial keys? 
I know there's keygens but wading through the dark corners of the internet to find one that isn't infested with internet STDs of trojans, worms and viruses is almost not even worth the trouble most of the time.
I'd be more inclined to buy PC games if they didn't have this crap :l which is why I usually just buy through Steam if I want to play on the PC.
I know there's keygens but wading through the dark corners of the internet to find one that isn't infested with internet STDs of trojans, worms and viruses is almost not even worth the trouble most of the time.
I'd be more inclined to buy PC games if they didn't have this crap :l which is why I usually just buy through Steam if I want to play on the PC.
"Ubisoft's recent announcement that upcoming games would require a constant internet connection in order to play has been discussed at length on Slashdot ('The Awful Anti-Pirate System That Will Probably Work'). Many were of the opinion that this new, more demanding DRM would have effectiveness to match its inconvenience, at least financially justifying its use. Others assumed that it would be immediately cracked, as is usually the case, leaving the inconvenience for paying customers and resulting in a superior product for pirates. As usual, the latter group was right. Though Ubisoft won't yet admit it, Skid-Row managed to crack the new DRM less than a day after it was first released."
How?
How?
Sup asshole.Dunlop said:
The disc check flat out would not work on my 64bit Vista, so I had to use a nocd crack to get the game running.
First the game's configuration utility wouldn't run for the same reason as the disc check for BG&E. After creating a simple workaround (creating an XML file so the game thinks the first time configuration happened) and getting the game to boot up, I found that any subsequent attempts to run the game came up with the error "Could not find Steam directory". Replacing the Jade Empire exe with a cracked one stopped the error.
There's nothing to "solve". A crack was released, the crack doesn't work, and a day later someone posts a brand new thread citing the same old source.Hugbot said:
No one has actually played the game from beginning to end with a cracked version. This shit happens every time with every new form of DRM. It'll get cracked eventually, but it hasn't been cracked yet. In the meantime, "sceners" will continue proclaiming victory without any proof.
Well none of the usual suspect scene groups have put up an AC2 release yet, and until they do, I doubt we'll have a crack that can play AC2 from start to finish. Not sure how much time that will take, but I wouldn't say the DRM has been properly beaten until such a crack shows up.
Ubisoft's new DRM is bullshit. It does nothing but annoy the hell out of people who bought a legal copy of the game. Pirates will simply wait for a patch to be available and then apply it. Duh.
If anything, I can only see this hurting, not helping sales.
Pure incompetence and arrogance are at the helm of most initiatives to pump DRM into games/software.
If anything, I can only see this hurting, not helping sales.
Pure incompetence and arrogance are at the helm of most initiatives to pump DRM into games/software.
RE AC2:
"The crack works and the game is playable up until you get into the Animus for the first time, where it just gets stuck with a white screen.
You can use the saves they give to get past it but you miss the tutorial and a part of the story."
"the working crack for SH5, a scene release no less, turned out to have missing mission briefings. "
"F.Y.I. spent half the day d/l cracks and fixes, nothing seems to work without crashing at some point in the game. Don't waste your time, as I have wasted it for you."
*shrug*
"The crack works and the game is playable up until you get into the Animus for the first time, where it just gets stuck with a white screen.
You can use the saves they give to get past it but you miss the tutorial and a part of the story."
"the working crack for SH5, a scene release no less, turned out to have missing mission briefings. "
"F.Y.I. spent half the day d/l cracks and fixes, nothing seems to work without crashing at some point in the game. Don't waste your time, as I have wasted it for you."
*shrug*
Lijik said:
You don't even need to post situations like that as justification to crack a game. I crack my games because all forms of DRM are a pain in the ass. I buy the game, crack it, and play it hassle free. I not even going to post pics of my games. People are not guilty until proven innocent.
I also cracked sonic adventure because the disc check didn't work
CabbageRed
Member
AC2 levels are already playable with a crack and save files? Again, if true, I'm surprised. I wonder if this means we'll see repackages come back into fashion.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Dunlop said:
pixel monkey
Banned
Do any of you honestly believe that this new draconian tactic of Ubisoft's stands a snowman's chance in the Amazon? You're just kidding yourselves.
There's already a file based scene fix in the wild for Silent Hunter 5 and it's the same damned system.
The sad fact is that the only people Ubisoft are frustrating with this new system are it's own paying customers.
There's already a file based scene fix in the wild for Silent Hunter 5 and it's the same damned system.
The sad fact is that the only people Ubisoft are frustrating with this new system are it's own paying customers.
Peronthious
Member
neorej said:
Nowhere, not in thread I made or here, am I saying that this DRM is a good idea and will work. I have no idea where you are getting that idea from. If you even read the OP from that thread you'll notice that I hate this DRM and wish Ubisoft management the worst.
Fun Factor
Formerly FTWer
pixel monkey said:
...and yet AC2 is still no fully cracked.
If it delays pirated version of the full game for months if not weeks, Ubisoft would have gotten their monies worth.
ShockingAlberto
Member
The game's not out yet in America, the first rip came out, what, two or three days ago?FTWer said:
I think you'd be right if it's not cracked by the end of April. Once they do that, it will be easier to crack each successive game. So their money's worth is, like, two months at best for one game when they've already made people wait four? Makes sense to me!