Cocaine is a hell of a drug. I don't think he's getting tested currently either since he's not an active fighter. Great way to take advantage of the system
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UFC 192 OT: Cormier vs Gustafsson
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Cocaine is a hell of a drug. I don't think he's getting tested currently either since he's not an active fighter. Great way to take advantage of the system
BadAss2961
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You say DC hasn't changed at all, and you just watched him win a 5 round fight where he stopped going for takedowns after the 2nd.
Turn your brain on.
jones destroyed DC. just because he didnt finish him doesnt make it competitive.
he hasnt changed the way he fights. you seem to really like DC. ill say hes really good at getting guys to fight the way he likes. thats what frustrates me. his stand up didnt look good his wrestling didnt look good other than that slam he got gus with. when he fights someone like jones who fights his OWN fights is when DC looks basic as fuck, which is he is.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Jon Jones missing cocaine, booze, prostitutes, and crashing into pregnant women's vehicles: https://twitter.com/DannySeguraTV/status/650537748558925824
guess i should actually read the thread
guess i should actually read the thread
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I remember JJ saying something like, "There's a clear stand up advantage in this fight, and that goes to me". The rumors following the fight were most likely true, JJ didn't take the fight seriously and/or was hurt.
I like Gustafson, but the constant running back to the center of the octagon certainly didn't look good for the judges.
BigJonsson
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Gus shouldn't have kept running, that didn't show the heart of a viking He also needed to not get hit in the face so easily in the clinch, so many uppercuts it was like a EA UFC online match =/
Still thought he should have won 48-47
Also surprised he didn't finish it after that big knee
Ah well
pixelation
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He looks like the prince from the Shrek movies, in other words... handsome by the numbers.
He also needed to not get hit in the face so easily in the clinch, so many uppercuts it was like a EA UFC online match =/
Still thought he should have won 48-47
Also surprised he didn't finish it after that big knee
Ah well
gus beat himself. hes talented but under any kind of stress hes the kind of guy that folds which you seen in this fight. there was nothing holding him back from winning
BadAss2961
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This frustrates you? That's what every fighter in all of combat sports wants to do.
Ninja Scooter
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He fought much the same way against Bones, the only difference is Bones is actually smart and used his length and made Cormier pay everytime he tried to go in for a clinch or wildly swung for the home run.
not really. if you want someone who is easy then yes
Jones also landed a ton of body punches/kicks which killed Cormier's cardio in the later rounds. Gustaffson similarly landed punches and kicks to the body without much trouble. It's one of Cormier's weaknesses he has failed to address. Jones going to do the exact same shit when they fight again.
BadAss2961
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The way he fought tonight was not the way he fought Jones for most of their fight. Against Jones, Cormier's gameplan was to work the clinch for takedowns, against Gus he decided to work the clinch purely for striking much like the 2nd round of the Jones fight where he had success.
To me it's obvious that he learned from the Jones fight. He learned that it's not easy to ragdoll those two tall light heavies and that he'll have to stand up with them. After the first slam, Gus began to stifle the takedown attempts much like Jones did. DC might've lost this fight had he never fought Jones before.
he fought the exact same. he tried nothing but clinching and uppercutting in the jones fight and he tried to do the same here(as he does in every fight hes been in). he didnt get the opportunity as much but that was all he was going for
with that performance, shit ill say i think bader can beat him
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BadAss2961
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Is it not completely out of character for Cormier to not attempt a takedown for 3 straight rounds? Not even feint one? Anyone with the slightest bit of analytical awareness would realize this was a result of the Jones fight and facing a guy with a similar build.
I don't know what else to tell you.
why are you talking to me like im the crazy one? you still think the fight between DC and jones was close.
Oh now that is just silliness. And I can't stand Cormier and wish Gus knocked his head off.
BadAss2961
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Quote me where I said the fight was "close." It shouldn't be hard to look through the history, I haven't posted much since we were talking about that.
BigJonsson
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Cormier looks like hell
Bam Bam Baklava
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If you think Jones is just gonna sit there and take it like Gus did then I don't know what else to tell you. He didn't beat a cavalcade of different fighters by being one dimensional. He knows how to bring the out the weaknesses of fighters who don't have the natural gifts that he has better than anyone I've ever seen.
#rekt. I guess his only definition of non-competitive is someone getting knocked out. This is what the fight looked like.
Cormier looked straight up impotent against him.
HalfBakedProphet
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Watching that "Get to know Sage Northcutt" vid on YouTube gave off Todd Marinovich vibes. Hope the kid doesn't burn himself out
BadAss2961
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So where did I say the fight was close? I always agreed that it was 4 rounds to 1.
BadAss2961
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I said he learned from the fight. I didn't say this meant he was going to beat Jones.
I think DC's capable of getting it done but that Jones is still a good favorite.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Anything is possible isn't exactly a good argument. Sure, he could beat him, but he more than likely won't. Just like he could beat him last time but he didn't.
BadAss2961
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I'll put it this way, DC beating Jones wouldn't surprise me.
it would surprise 99 percent of the population. even DC
you are god damn right. Cormier is a smart man. Jones should be called, "Felony Jones Bones."
well he beat that conviction and is now going to fight again so "not felony jones bones" should be his title
Boring Bones the coke head!
you must be jacked on those buffalo wild wings
She wasn't always that way with the press. Trying too hard to capture that McGregor swag and failing at it completely.
Also, epic Jones return video:
http://youtu.be/LLjVh1bO6mE
abstract alien
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Not sure why people keep acting like Cormier isn't the legit champion. Bones ruined himself like a moron and was his own worst opponent. The reason he doesn't have the belt is because he is an idiot. Well, he was at the time. Just because you are the greatest fighter doesn't mean you can make it in the sport. I'm sure there are a ton of people that are great at a sport, but couldn't make it in a particular organization due to life style choices. Jones is one of them, it's just awful because is nearly an anomaly talent wise. Hopefully he comes back and can control himself. I don't give a shit if he is a good person or not, but being champion means meeting certain simple criteria, some of which have nothing to do with talent.
Cormier IS the legit champion. Bones can come back and dominate LHW and HW, but I'm not going to pretend that he didn't lose the belt because of his own idiocy. Talent isn't shit if you aren't in a position to use it. He took himself out of that position.
Cormier IS the legit champion. Bones can come back and dominate LHW and HW, but I'm not going to pretend that he didn't lose the belt because of his own idiocy. Talent isn't shit if you aren't in a position to use it. He took himself out of that position.
abstract alien
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Damnit Bones, just make it official already!
https://mobile.twitter.com/DannySeguraTV/status/650537748558925824/video/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/DannySeguraTV/status/650537748558925824/video/1
Bam Bam Baklava
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I've always said that history will look at Cormier as an asterisk in history and I think I will be proven right. In 20 years, the wikipedia page will probably just have Jones as the champion throughout this period we're in now with an asterisk and a link explaining Cormier and his fake ass belt.
BadAss2961
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I don't get the hate. Jones had to be stripped of the title, the next best guy went on to win it and hasn't been ducking the situation.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Not really about hate, just the facts of the situation. Not even his fault really.
Although the initial shit talking he was doing looked pretty sad given the context.
BadAss2961
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What's wrong with shit talking? The fact that he's still acting like a challenger to Jones shows that he's being real about the situation.
There's no one to blame but Jones himself. If you wanna complain, point in his direction and tell him to stop bullshitting.
Ninja Scooter
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Did he really have to be stripped? It's not like the UFC doesn't have it's share of champions who fight once a year, or are averse to having "interim" champions. On top of that Dana once tried to bail a guy out of jail to get him out in time to fight, so it's not like he has much of a moral high ground here.
Anyway the reason people give DC shit is simple, he did not beat the champion to win the title, in fact, just one fight before he won the title, he got the brakes beat off him by the actual champion. Of course people are going to question the legitimacy of his "championship". He's an interim champion in everything but name.
BadAss2961
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I would've preferred to see him keep the title too, but in reality, how could they not strip him? Injuries are one thing, but he's had all types of problems and was facing jail time. The show has to go on. He could always get his shot once cleared and reinstated anyway, which is where we're at now.
Giving DC shit would be fair if he was in heel mode talking like he's the greatest ever while ducking Jones questions.
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