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[meltingparappa]

The whole "i identify as lgbt and I don't find this offensive" just stinks of "my opinion is means more than yours" even though lgbt indentifying people who this thread who do find it offensive!

Of course, their intent may not have been to offend. Hardly anyone goes around willingly wanting to be sexist, racist or homophobic. However intent =! Impact. To me this is one of the most flagrantly offensive things I have seen. It's to the point where the intent to me is it's doing all of this willfully for attention to the product and not some thoughtful satire. So yeah imma call this shit out on that

Also this isn't a satire, it's a parody at best. It wouldn't work as a satire because it's only "ironically" using the same negative cliches that already persist in a bunch of mediums.

I would think gay people are better at discerning hateful intent than someone who has never been a target of hurtful, sometimes dangerous prejudice.

No group is ever monolithic and there will always be people disagreeing, but if a Caucasian male reacted negatively to a parody of black rap culture made by black rap artists and wanted to assume on average that their opinion will always have as much insight as someone who's part of the culture, they would be laughed out of a discussion. Alternately, not all black people may find it funny and that it actually reinforces hateful stereotypes, which is a completely valid viewpoint that stresses nuance in what the satire of hurtful cultural symbols mean.

If you are not the target of these stereotypes, done in a satirical manner (as opposed to parody because there is an intent to create discussion instead of just going "lololol look at these silly gay people: the game"), then thank you for being offended on my behalf, I suppose.

As far as impact goes, if you think that this game will change a naive pernos's opinion on homosexuals for the worse, I would bet my shirt that they already have a prejudiced viewpoint against them to begin with.

Hence:

The only reason you should be offended by this video is if you're offended by gays; otherwise it's just another fighting game.

Pretty much.

 

[evanmisha]

I can't fap to this

 

[Infinite]

I would think gay people are better at discerning hateful intent than someone who has never been a target of hurtful, sometimes dangerous prejudice.

No group is ever monolithic and there will always be people disagreeing, but if a Caucasian male reacted negatively to a parody of black rap culture made by black rap artists and wanted to assume on average that their opinion will always have as much insight as someone who's part of the culture, they would be laughed out of a discussion. Alternately, not all black people may find it funny and that it actually reinforces hateful stereotypes, which is a completely valid viewpoint that stresses nuance in what the satire of hurtful cultural symbols mean.

If you are not the target of these stereotypes, done in a satirical manner (as opposed to parody because there is an intent to create discussion instead of just going "lololol look at these silly gay people: the game"), then thank you for being offended on my behalf, I suppose.

As far as impact goes, if you think that this game will change a naive pernos's opinion on homosexuals for the worse, I would bet my shirt that they already have a prejudiced viewpoint against them to begin with.

Hence:


Pretty much.

That's fair. I simply disagree, if this is satire it is not nearly an effective one as one of your previous post imply and actually does may do more harm than good regardless of intent.

Also I didn't imply that all lgbt indentifying people should and will be offended by this and it seems to that's what you got out of my posts. There will be some who think this is fucked up and there will be others who don't and I mean that's cool. That's why the discussion is going to to exists on it. Im just think "well I'm gay and I'm cool with this. case closed" nature of your posts is strange here.

 

[sn00zer]

Black gay guy with a golden noose rope chain around his neck.

Yeah.

Yeah this one stood out the most

 

[sono]

music is awesome

 

[Pristine_Condition]

The only reason you should be offended by this video is if you're offended by gays; otherwise it's just another fighting game.

The game doesn't offend me at all. I think too many people confuse controversial speech with hate.

But they're gonna get sued by Zuffa (the parent company of the UFC) for using the Ultimate Fighter mark. The parody or satire defense they're likely to point to as an excuse won't save them either, for a number of reasons. I don't know if they named their product that way in order to get attention from the media when the UFC inevitably shuts them down, (which I kinda see, as this whole idea seems a bit on the attention-whoring side to me,) or if they just don't understand the law, but they should quickly rename the game and move on.

 

[Frodo]

Is the gaytality an STD of some sort ?

Ok. This joke is of a extremely bad taste. Unnecessary.

Edit: Just saw Orioto already apologised. Still think it was unnecessary, though.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I don't even really want to participate in this discussion much. It seems as though nothing can ever be too offensive, it's always just a joke. This game wouldn't be a big deal if the industry wasn't so horribly lacking in gay characters that weren't gigantic stereotypes, but alas.

 

[Alvarez]

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

Instead, the game is a well of gaudy stereotypes. What a shame.

 

[Principate]

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

Instead, the game is a well of gaudy stereotypes. What a shame.

Hey someone should do that would probably go other better than this. Too bad most probably only Japanese developers would make it.

 

[JC Lately]

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

Instead, the game is a well of gaudy stereotypes. What a shame.

Huh. That would have been an intresting experiment. Especially if the resulting game itself turned out to be awesome.

Someone should totaly do that. I'd kickstart the shit out of it.

 

[drproton]

I don't even really want to participate in this discussion much. It seems as though nothing can ever be too offensive, it's always just a joke. This game wouldn't be a big deal if the industry wasn't so horribly lacking in gay characters that weren't gigantic stereotypes, but alas.

Even a bad joke or a crude or cruel joke is just a joke. Some people being offended by something isn't really a reason for this to be taken off the app store.

But I'm a fan of Andy Kaufman.

 

[Infinite]

Huh. That would have been an intresting experiment. Especially if the resulting game itself turned out to be awesome.

Someone should totaly do that. I'd kickstart the shit out of it.

Check out cho aniki while you're at it

 

[RockTurtle]

has anyone called KOTAKU yet!?

 

[MWS Natural]

Yes, Gaytality was pretty good.

The only reason you should be offended by this video is if you're offended by gays; otherwise it's just another fighting game.

Yes, because a black man named "homo thug" with a noose tied around his neck is nothing to be offended by.

 

[RayMaker]

I think the name and theme will get it more sales then the gameplay and graphics.

 

[JC Lately]

Check out cho aniki while you're at it

Yeah but cho aniki wasn't awesome.

 

[runnin_blue]

The black guy with the noose around his neck..,.

I hope I'm missing something here because that is just disgusting if it's referencing what I think it is.

 

[AppleMIX]

Pretty sure this whole game is just going for shock value.

 

[Systemwarrior]

The black guy with the noose around his neck..,.

I hope I'm missing something here because that is just disgusting if it's referencing what I think it is.

That's what I was thinking. Horrible design choice.... But this whole game looks like a horrible choice.

 

[Cidd]

Lol

 

[The Awesomest]

Does it have more stereotypes than Punch-Out??

Is it as gay as Cho Aniki?

 

[Infinite]

Yeah but cho aniki wasn't awesome.

Awww.

But I would Kickstarter the idea in question myself tbh

 

[KNT-Zero]

The main problem is not how absurdily stereotypical is every character.
The main problem is on how clumsy it looks. And the animation looks halfbaked :/

 

[Blood Diamonds]

I could make a better game in fucking RPG Maker

 

[indigo-cyclops]

but divekick already came out

Was just going to say...

This looks only slightly worse than Divekick.

 

[NeoGash]

The black guy with the noose around his neck..,.

I hope I'm missing something here because that is just disgusting if it's referencing what I think it is.

WOW, I didn't realise that as I watched it on my tablet. If true, WTF? I don't see how that could be considered funny TBH. Maybe I'm not getting it? Just......what were they thinking?

 

[Blood Diamonds]

WOW, I didn't realise that as I watched it on my tablet. If true, WTF? I don't see how that could be considered funny TBH. Maybe I'm not getting it? Just......what were they thinking?

theyre fighting stereotypes with super duper satire!!!!!!11!!!

 

[Creaking]

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

So... uh, were you looking for a game or softcore pornography?


Or hardcore pornography?

 

[ekim]

I got the jokes but you don't make a game out of it. This is embarrassing.

 

[JC Lately]

So... uh, were you looking for a game or softcore pornography?


Or hardcore pornography?

Nah, just genderfliping what already happens to female characters in fighting games.

It makes for an intresting thought experiment if nothing else.

 

[meltingparappa]

Nah, just genderfliping what already happens to female characters in fighting games.

It makes for an intresting thought experiment if nothing else.

That would have maybe been a more effective bit of social commentary, too.

But their resources are probably bare bones enough as is.

 

[Alvarez]

So... uh, were you looking for a game or softcore pornography?


Or hardcore pornography?

All of the above.

 

[evanmisha]

Huh. That would have been an intresting experiment. Especially if the resulting game itself turned out to be awesome.

Someone should totaly do that. I'd kickstart the shit out of it.

I would also kickstart this. The Xtreme Volleyball spinoff, too

 

[efeman]

 

[History]

This video perpetuates negative stereotypes. It is unfortunate that apple, Google, and Microsoft decided to allow this on their app stores.

 

[Creaking]

Nah, just genderfliping what already happens to female characters in fighting games.

It makes for an intresting thought experiment if nothing else.

I suppose it would, looking at it that way. Or you could make a fighter with an all-female cast where the characters all have multiple costumes and nobody has visible breasts.

 

[Currygan]

seriously, I don't even

 

[Kimosabae]

How did FGC-GAF allow this to get to page 4 without an EVO 2k14 reference?


Ya'll are 'fuckin up.

 

[Zetta]

Damn Scissor move just reminded me of

 

[shysaursoft]

In 2007 the first annual Gay Fight competition was held to find America’s most ruthless LGBT fighter. The contestants were narrowed down to the ten strongest, and the tournament took place in the fighters hometowns and local hangouts. The victor was muscle-queen porn star Josh Maxxx, however, three days after his title was won, he vanished.

Now, ten new fighters are competing to win the title of Gay Fight champion. Little do the fighters know, there is something very ominous about the competition itself.

The League of Oppresive Self-Righteous Zealouts have created the tournament for two reasons: make the LGBT community destroy itself and brainwash the winner to carry out the League’s nefarious plans.

Game may be derp, but you gotta admit, that's an interesting intro scroll for the story.

I can see what Mike is going for with the game, and I don't personally find it offensive. In a sense it's no worse than some of the stereotyping you see in Family Guy. I even thought some of the fighters were funny. It's playing off that really stupid and sarcastic humour that works for some people, and not really a whole lot more. I don't begrudge it.

It has a fighter that uses vogue poses as moves, and Timmy Twink's chihuahua dances during the victory dance too, with a sassy little butt-wiggle. I think that's hilarious.

I wouldn't buy it. But I can appreciate the thought.

 

[halfbeast]

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

Instead, the game is a well of gaudy stereotypes. What a shame.

uh, we already got this game. it's called Soul Calibur 5!

 

[Monocle]

Could have been interesting if the art were better and the character design didn't depend so heavily on lazy stereotyping.

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

Instead, the game is a well of gaudy stereotypes. What a shame.

Yeah, this is what I want.

uh, we already got this game. it's called Soul Calibur 5!

Kilik's body was a major downgrade from the SC4 version. -11/5.

 

[shysaursoft]

uh, we already got this game. it's called Soul Calibur 5!

You mean JoJos.

 

[halfbeast]

You mean JoJos.

not too familiar with it (the games) but in SC5 you can customize them to satisfy (almost) every pervy fantasy! form gigantic jiggly boobies to hairy dudes in thongs.

Kilik's body was a major downgrade from the SC4 version. -11/5.

lol, that's too bad. couldn't you make your own "Kilik" with just a random dude-template?

 

[Ban Puncher]

Yeah but cho aniki wasn't awesome.

 

[shysaursoft]

not too familiar with it (the games) but in SC5 you can customize them to satisfy (almost) every pervy fantasy! form gigantic jiggly boobies to hairy dudes in thongs.

lol, that's too bad. couldn't you make your own "Kilik" with just a random dude-template?

The JoJo games just contain too much fabulous for gender binaries, is all.

Yeah, bigtime SC fan. It's a pity the char customization kind of killed online for me, since people just made unreadable messes on purpose so you couldn't fight against them.

 

[mantidor]

The Divine character could have been soooooo much better.

There's zero Divine in that drag queen.

I'm trying to not be even more hated than i am here It's clear that my joke would have been more funny with other gay friends, but hey.. not everyone has the same humor!

I laughed for what is worth, I did knew about you and your humor already


The trailer was terrible anyway, I'll stick to Cho Aniki, thank you.

I was excited when I read the title. Picture it: A bunch of sexualized male characters (ala DoA) fighting it out in a wide variety of scenarios. Big muscly characters, short but agile characters, super hairy characters--and all of them hot. Maybe throw in some "furry" characters (like KI's Sabrewulf) too. You can unlock skimpier and skimpier costumes--tight briefs, harnesses--by winning matches.

Instead, the game is a well of gaudy stereotypes. What a shame.

Or this marvelous game.

 

[halfbeast]

The JoJo games just contain too much fabulous for gender binaries, is all.

Yeah, bigtime SC fan. It's a pity the char customization kind of killed online for me, since people just made unreadable messes on purpose so you couldn't fight against them.

yeah, you're right! but I'm kinda bad at Soul Calibur, so my designs gave me a little bit of an advantage!

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

Jesus damn gaytality is a fantastic word. Genuinely laughed out loud.