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[~Devil Trigger~]

Did I pick up also that he might an OTG as well? It looked like in his gameplay video at around 1:45, he did a kick that seemed to have OTG Vergil.

I might be wrong though so I just wanted to ask.

looks like that ground ax kick OTG hard knockdowns And ground bounces standing character .

NERF IRON FIST!!

 

[Chavelo]

So Wesker is a Dante clone because he has a gun, a teleport and a trenchoat? What about Deadpool who has BOTH swords/guns, a teleport and talks smack like Dante? I guess Zero is a Dante clone too because he too has a sword, can teleport and is colored red. :/

Deadpool > Dante on smack talking.

 

[Dahbomb]

Did I pick up also that he might an OTG as well? It looked like in his gameplay video at around 1:45, he did a kick that seemed to have OTG Vergil.

I might be wrong though so I just wanted to ask.

I don't know what you are asking here... but BOTH Iron Fist and Vergil have an OTG move. Iron Fist has that Heel drop kick that OTGs into his special series and Vergil has Rising Hightime into Teleport. Iron Fist has a much easier time following up OTG into a combo/hyper than Vergil.

I am shocked that Iron Fist doesn't have a dive kick spotted. We also have no idea what his assists are.

looks like that ground ax kick OTG hard knockdowns And ground bounces standing character

Hits overhead too. It hit VJ when he was blocking low.

 

[Kurtofan]

Characters with similarities in a fighting game

Why I never...

this is the worst thing ever, How can Capcom slap

Yeah one of those character has a sword and the other punches, wtf crapcom, so similar.

 

[Lothars]

I don't know what you are asking here... but BOTH Iron Fist and Vergil have an OTG move. Iron Fist has that Heel drop kick that OTGs into his special series and Vergil has Rising Hightime into Teleport. Iron Fist has a much easier time following up OTG into a combo/hyper than Vergil.

I am shocked that Iron Fist doesn't have a dive kick spotted. We also have no idea what his assists are.

Ok I thought it was said previously that Iron Fist didn't have an OTG. I didn't know it was already known.

Sorry about that.

 

[LowParry]

Not enough "Scum!"

 

[Valnen]

They gave Vergil super judgment cut. Why did I ever doubt you for even a moment, Capcom.

I'm...in love.

Voice sounds...off. But it's definitely the same guy. I think the voices on PS2 might have been quite compressed?

 

[sixteen-bit]

They gave Vergil super judgment cut. Why did I ever doubt you for even a moment, Capcom.

I'm...in love.

Voice sounds...off. But it's definitely the same guy. I think the voices on PS2 might have been quite compressed?

Same guy, but the delivery is ass :/

 

[SolarPowered]

*Cough* Super Smash Bros Melee *Cough*


Seriously, they seem to be different and they seem to have different kind of style to play as.

Don't do this...

I don't know what you are asking here... but BOTH Iron Fist and Vergil have an OTG move. Iron Fist has that Heel drop kick that OTGs into his special series and Vergil has Rising Hightime into Teleport. Iron Fist has a much easier time following up OTG into a combo/hyper than Vergil.

I am shocked that Iron Fist doesn't have a dive kick spotted. We also have no idea what his assists are.

The lack of a divekick and mixups is what completely threw me off from the start. I could adapt to no airdash, but the lack divekick and mixups on a martial artist just feels weird.

Maybe he has some stuff that has not been shown yet.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Iron Fist looks like Jam. I'm down for that very reason.

Vergil is already getting a spot on my squad.

Not enough "Scum!"

This is true.


edit: Most importantly, you can actually see the assist characters life bar...

 

[Red Arremer]

Not enough "Scum!"

It's very likely his taunt. But nobody uses the taunt buttons, and they're not showcased in trailers, as well.

 

[MThanded]

Two things are occurring in here.

1.People who are overblowing the clone character thing

2.Cognitive dissonance is not allowing others to see that Vergil is a clone character in some respects. Not that its an issue or unexpected.


Everybody just hug it out.

 

[sophora]

awesomeness, can't wait

 

[SolarPowered]

Two things are occurring in here.

1.People who are overblowing the clone character thing

2.Cognitive dissonance is not allowing others to see that Vergil is a clone character in some respects. Not that its an issue or unexpected.


Everybody just hug it out.

Awwww, C'mere big guy!

*huuuugs for everyone*

 

[SAB CA]

Errr... ok?

I'm kinda suprised. After all the MANLY PICTURE TIME Iron fist pictures, I was expecting some epic Kanji appearing on screen upon every attack... instead, we have glowy fist. Ok.

And with all the Vergil hype, I expected him to make me feel like the entire world evolved around him, as I watched him fight... and he,, so far, looks kinda.. contained. Which is kinda nice, it gives him some finess.

Of course, they look fun to play, but it's hard not to look as such in your reveal trailers!

Still waiting for the character that really gets me hype for this Ultimate version. Wright, Frank, guess you're my biggest hopes now! (-_-) Hope Frank keeps Real Mega Buster + gets much, much improved normals...

 

[j.rob]

Was not hyped for Vergil much in all honesty. But after looking at his reveal trailer, he looks niiiiiiice. Hype+1

Iron fist looks as expected in a way. Which is good. I like Iron Fist.

Was hoping for Wright and Rocket though

 

["God's Beard!"]

Vergil shares like 4 moves of Dante. Stinger, Helm Breaker Starfall and Devil Trigger. Everything else is unique and totally different.

Also Vergil's teleports are AIR OK! Aside from a Nelo Angelo transformation... Capcom made Vergil as strong as my theory fighter Vergil.

From the looks of it Vergil is going to be a very strong 2nd position character in the game. Very strong DHC game, decent assist selection, high meter requirement and great user of X factor as well. Needs probably one assist to be godlike, most likely a beam assist for cross ups and OTG follow ups (since he can call assist, OTG Hightime, Teleport down for combo follow up).


That may or may not be true. Dante can also do Devil Trigger into LVL3 hyper and people were confused early on about it. It seems sort of pointless to make a DT exclusive LVL3 hyper... that's essentially a LVL4 hyper. Vergil is a massive meter hog already, I doubt it but I can see it going either way.

The extra meter usage on the new formation for Summoned Sword is in fact much more applicable. You can extend combos with it and keep a really long sequence of lock down with just 2 meter. Plus if you get the kill early you can just spend another meter to keep the pressure going with the ranged swords for chip and pressure.

Now you bring Judgment Cut into play plus maybe Devil Trigger IAD game and you can start to see that Vergil requires lots of meter for maintenance. Maybe he has his Round Trip move too we'll see.

Don't forget that his DT is a speed boost not a power boost.

 

[GuardianE]

Don't forget that his DT is a speed boost not a power boost.

Is that confirmed? Dante receives both a speed and power boost in his DT I thought.

 

[LongDongJunon]

OMG DAN SOUTHWORTH

KISS ME ON THE LIIIIPS

 

[mr. puppy]

so what does changing the color of iron fist's hands do?

 

[dankir]

Would have preferred NOVA to be revealed but Iron Fist is looking dope.

Vergil looks too much like Dante to me, YES I KNOW THEY AREN'T CLONES lol.

But his level 3 is pretty cool nonetheless.


SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST

GALACTIC MANLY PICTURE TIME

 

[Red Arremer]

so what does changing the color of iron fist's hands do?

Apparently they change his "stance" from Attack Boost, Defense Boost and Meter Boost.

 

[enzo_gt]

Two things are occurring in here.

1.People who are overblowing the clone character thing

2.Cognitive dissonance is not allowing others to see that Vergil is a clone character in some respects. Not that its an issue or unexpected.


Everybody just hug it out.

Agreed, but Vergil isn't entirely a clone, he does have a TON of stuff carried over from Dante, but likely won't play the same. Different core specials will make sure this is the case, and what I'd say are better zoning options.

I want to see some gameplay in the actual hands of people though. Is Unity there and streaming? I mean they better fucking be if even the goddamn Vita version is playable on the show floor.

Gonna have to agree from Karst at the moment though.. Vergil is far too familiar compared to what I expected. Oh hey look Maximum Vergil. Oh hey look Dante's teleport animation, and his aerial S. Same series so obv there wil be major similarities because the everyone who's played DMC3 had played both characters and thus it's completely expected they're familiar but different beasts. We'll see Day 2.

Motherfucking Iron Fist though, that man is dope and the leak was right (amongst other things) on how he stores Chi like LoU and his move are very reminiscient of the ones he has in the comics. Wouldn't it be hilarious if when he has his DEF powered up he doesn't take chip? Actually someone check for me, that'd be sexy.

Apparently they change his "stance" from Attack Boost, Defense Boost and Meter Boost.

It's more of a power up. It depletes after time (or use?). And the last one isn't a meter boost, isn't it a super power up? That's what eidrian said, and he claimed to know shit back in the initial UMvC3 leak.

 

[Riposte]

Don't care about Vergil, a Dante Clone which seems to the same normals, but different specials and supers.

Haha, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[GuardianE]

Gonna have to agree from Karst at the moment though.. Vergil is far too familiar compared to what I expected. Oh hey look Maximum Vergil. Oh hey look Dante's teleport animation, and his aerial S. Same series so obv there wil be major similarities because the everyone who's played DMC3 had played both characters and thus it's completely expected they're familiar but different beasts. We'll see Day 2.

I'm not trying to pick an argument or whatever, but I'm confused as to what kind of teleport animation you were expecting? And what j.S? Those were going to obviously be the same.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Agreed, but Vergil isn't entirely a clone, he does have a TON of stuff carried over from Dante, but likely won't play the same. Different core specials will make sure this is the case, and what I'd say are better zoning options.

I want to see some gameplay in the actual hands of people though. Is Unity there and streaming? I mean they better fucking be if even the goddamn Vita version is playable on the show floor.

Gonna have to agree from Karst at the moment though.. Vergil is far too familiar compared to what I expected. Oh hey look Maximum Vergil. Oh hey look Dante's teleport animation, and his aerial S. Same series so obv there wil be major similarities because the everyone who's played DMC3 had played both characters and thus it's completely expected they're familiar but different beasts. We'll see Day 2.

Motherfucking Iron Fist though, that man is dope and the leak was right (amongst other things) on how he stores Chi like LoU and his move are very reminiscient of the ones he has in the comics. Wouldn't it be hilarious if when he has his DEF powered up he doesn't take chip? Actually someone check for me, that'd be sexy.


It's more of a power up. It depletes after time (or use?). And the last one isn't a meter boost, isn't it a super power up? That's what eidrian said, and he claimed to know shit back in the initial UMvC3 leak.

If no one check at TGS then I could check it out for you at New York Comic Con myself. I hope that there wouldn't be long lines so I can try most of new characters, along with some old characters with new moves.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Here is to hoping that judgment cut stops projectiles, like Dorm's dark hole. ^_^

 

[Nemesis_]

Vergil is great but I don't really care about him. Considering how much experience I had with DMC3SE I suppose I already knew what to expect and thankfully Capcom have delivered.

I WANT MOAR NOW THO

 

[enzo_gt]

I'm not trying to pick an argument or whatever, but I'm confused as to what kind of teleport animation you were expecting? And what j.S? Those were going to obviously be the same.

I don't know, in retrospect I expected something even slightly different but they kept it the same, presumably to preserve the similarities they share in DMC3, where I presume they teleports looked the same for both Dante and Vergil, and didn't have any striking differences.

If no one check at TGS then I could check it out for you at New York Comic Con myself. I hope that there wouldn't be long lines so I can try most of new characters, along with some old characters with new moves.

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I think a bunch of gaffers are going to NYCC though. Inevitably one of you will end up doing diagnostics on Iron man!

 

[Dahbomb]

Don't forget that his DT is a speed boost not a power boost.

I was unable to confirm this as well so I didn't comment on it.

And no Dante does NOT get a speed boost in DT.

And with all the Vergil hype, I expected him to make me feel like the entire world evolved around him, as I watched him fight... and he,, so far, looks kinda.. contained. Which is kinda nice, it gives him some finess.

? Vergil is exactly what everyone hyped him up to be.

Check out this movelist that I put up prior to his reveal. Notice that it's 90% identical to the current one minus the Nelo Angelo stuff (which even I admit were a long shot). Even right down to the ground bounce property on Lunar Phase, cross up property of Rapid Slash, Summoned Swords, Judgment Cut distances and teleport positioning. In fact, my movelist was so accurate I am just going to re-edit it to reflect the actual reveal.

Vergil is far too familiar compared to what I expected.

Again I have to ask... what exactly were people "expecting" with Vergil? A non-teleporting character? A character who doesn't use swords and doesn't wear a trenchcoat? A character who doesn't have a demon form?

The only cognitive dissonance I see here is between people who have played DMC3 and people who haven't. If you played DMC3 you knew exactly what was coming and your expectations were met.

 

[GuardianE]

I don't know, in retrospect I expected something even slightly different but they kept it the same, presumably to preserve the similarities they share in DMC3, where I presume they teleports looked the same for both Dante and Vergil, and didn't have any striking differences.

Yes. One was a red blur, the other was a blue blur. The only difference was positioning. Which I imagine is also the difference in UMvC3.

I was unable to confirm this as well so I didn't comment on it.

And no Dante does NOT get a speed boost in DT.

Gotcha. I rarely use DT combos.

 

[ultim8p00]

Dante, Vergil, Taskmaster


GAME OVER BITCHES. GAME OVER

 

[enzo_gt]

Dante, Vergil, Taskmaster


GAME OVER BITCHES. GAME OVER

Fuck this team. The worst part about Vergil is going to be DMC teams where after you eliminate Dante you still have another super agile and versatile character to deal with.

And then you have Taskmaster.

 

[toastyToast]

Any guesses as to what Vergil's extra DT specials will be?

 

[JeTmAn81]

I hope Vergil is like Dante minus Bold Cancels. Then I can swap them on my main team

 

[El Sloth]

Iron Fist looks pretty cool. I'm always up for some stance changing shenanigans (except Gen, fuck that guy).

Mehgil.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

 

[El Sloth]

I hope Vergil is like Dante minus Bold Cancels. Then I can swap them on my main team

They don't look like they play similar at all. Not even their hypers are similar.

 

[toastyToast]

Swap out Trish with Viper and that'll be my team.

My hands shall know no rest.

 

[Azure J]

Fuck this team. The worst part about Vergil is going to be DMC teams where after you eliminate Dante you still have another super agile and versatile character to deal with.

And then you have Taskmaster.

Still nowhere near as trollsauce as either Dante/Vergil/Morrigan or Strange and nowhere near as played for looks as Dante/Vergil/Strider or Wesker.

Relevant:

Spoiler

/v/ is hilarious.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Honestly, I'm hoping team DMC has good synergy. Trish already works pretty well with Dante. It looks like it will function pretty good, depending on Vergil's assists. Off of the footage, I'd run Trish as anchor, just so I could use traps to lock people in place with Dante and Vergil.

 

[sixteen-bit]

X-23, Spencer, Iron Fist
waifu, ARRRRRM, Man-Jam

 

[enzo_gt]

Iron Fist on anchor is going to be fucking godly. Hyper with invincibility, defense power up, relatively high damage output without assists, self-OTG.....

....access to X-Factor. If he has a decent amount of health, boy is gonna be a problem.

EDIT: LOL @ AzureJericho. Yeah Fightan General has some gems.

 

[kai3345]

Vita? that was so out of the blue

 

[Dahbomb]

LMAO @ Wesker's hair style.. why not just color his regular hair style white? Totally expect to see that team A LOT online. Team Trenchchoats.

Honestly, I'm hoping team DMC has good synergy. Trish already works pretty well with Dante. It looks like it will function pretty good, depending on Vergil's assists. Off of the footage, I'd run Trish as anchor, just so I could use traps to lock people in place with Dante and Vergil.

Vergil on point with Dante on Weasel Shot sets up dirty cross ups as expected. Round Trip + Summoned Swords should yield some dirty pressure/traps situations. Also DHC synergy is definitely in, Vergil can easily combo after Round Trip.

Have to see what other assists Vergil has before coming up with a team order but there is enough synergy on that team.

Any guesses as to what Vergil's extra DT specials will be?

He can do an air dash in DT mode.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Just watched the vids.

Vergil's voice doesn't sound very badass, hehe.

I thought Ironfist was going to look more badass, idk.

They look like they play good, so that's all the matters.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Vita? that was so out of the blue

No it wasn't.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=440120

 

[Smo21]

Vergil is who I thought he was, and they let him off the hook. Crown him HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!-

 

[SykoTech]

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/09/13_umvc3artwork03.jpg

Nice. Though I'm a little disappointed that Spider-Man was once again left out of the shot.

 

[Karsticles]

Awwww, C'mere big guy!

*huuuugs for everyone*

You expect me to hug someone that mains a girl that keeps an entire arsenal of weapons up her sleeves? :-/