CountBlack
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Move is gdlk and does 100 damage lol
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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It wasn't on the final change list.
Chun says good luck
Chun is a pretty lady. I bet Dudley wouldn't mind getting touched by her a few times.
I'm so in for the age of Chun again. Now that she's got a good chance of not sucking and I'm finally not totally ass at the game, there's a chance that I'll do well at EVO this year.
Went to an arcade in Shinjuku the other day to see if Gouken still worked...
One 100 yen coin and five wins later, I can testify that the inverse old man is still at large.
/brag
See y'all on da slopes!
One 100 yen coin and five wins later, I can testify that the inverse old man is still at large.
/brag
See y'all on da slopes!
Can someone please confirm his changes? I'm actually a know-nothing scrub.
I was actually playing casuals against a Chun player in Ultra at UFGT. I didn't like any minute of it. Even the matches I won (which wasn't too many) I didn't feel good about winning. She is definitely a force to be reckoned with.
I've really worked on my Chun over the years and I feel comfortable in almost every match now. She was horrible for AE and 2012, but I feel like my long investment is paying off finally.
I really need to work on my match-ups with Dudley especially Chun because I know the basics of what I'm supposed to do in the match-up, but never run into a lot of the characters I prepare for and never get any good practice against them. I still hate the Ryu match-up, but I can deal with it. I'm still happy Dud's is getting buffed.
Rice-Eater
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He's been to the last two EVO's, I see no reason why he nor any of the Topanga guys won't come. I'm pretty confident he'll be there. Hell, I think he might come to CEO as well.
I think it's because it's a lot slower than all the other Shoto cr. MK. Oni, Ken, Ryu, Akuma all have low forwards that start up in 4 to 5 frames. Evil Ryu's cr. MK starts up in 7f. The benefit of it is that it has more reach and hit/block stun. It's a true block string with fireball at almost any range against most of the cast(with a few exceptions). Try that with any of the other shoto's and people can blow right through your fireballs. I wouldn't say it's better either though, just different and unique in its own way.
Rice-Eater
Member
On another note, it is so damn depressing watching Japanese videos of Evil Ryu. First off it's very hard to find. Top tier or not, he doesn't seem that popular. And when I do come across them, most of them have a sub 50% win rate and get bodied hard by much better players. Sure Daigo is kicking ass and taking names with Evil Ryu, but the only two matches of him floating around on Youtube is him getting beat by two different Mak players.
And if that wasn't bad enough, these Evil Ryu players aren't doing anything new. They're practically playing him almost identical to his AE 2012 self. Not that he's that different, but he has some new stuff that I think is useful, but they're not using it at all.
I have come up with some idea in my mind that I want to try in Ultra. I've already tested them in the USF4 mod, but of course it's not the real thing. And these Evil Ryu players aren't attempting them. I don't know whether they don't work or it's just not a good idea to use them. At least this just makes me hungrier to play USF4 since I'm not getting any satisfaction watching my character.
I think the one thing I learned the most from watching Japanese arcade matches is that if I played at one with decent comp, I'd probably only have a 20% win rate at best. Even the dudes with a win rate that low look about as good as me lol.
And if that wasn't bad enough, these Evil Ryu players aren't doing anything new. They're practically playing him almost identical to his AE 2012 self. Not that he's that different, but he has some new stuff that I think is useful, but they're not using it at all.
I have come up with some idea in my mind that I want to try in Ultra. I've already tested them in the USF4 mod, but of course it's not the real thing. And these Evil Ryu players aren't attempting them. I don't know whether they don't work or it's just not a good idea to use them. At least this just makes me hungrier to play USF4 since I'm not getting any satisfaction watching my character.
I think the one thing I learned the most from watching Japanese arcade matches is that if I played at one with decent comp, I'd probably only have a 20% win rate at best. Even the dudes with a win rate that low look about as good as me lol.
Uni on Everything!
Member
Probably just have to wait for Sako videos lol. After watching his evil Ryu I feel like I can't watch more than 1 minute of anyone else's... No one else even comes close.
Crab Milk Mickey
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People who so much as like DeeJay should cry. Those who play him cannot be forgiven for their sins. His inclusion makes Evil Ryu, Oni, Guy, T. Hawk and even Decapre look good and they're all pretty damn bad additions themselves.
I'm not. People are just going to cry that she's too good now. At this point I'd prefer she just be a solid middle tier character so I don't have to hear people complain.
Also hi guys I'm playing Street Fighter again.
Japanese players still have until August to abuse her mk sbk.
CountBlack
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I thought the Japanese arcade version was going to be updated around the same time as the digital version here?
Would make sense, else arcade players would be playing an old version come EVO. Decapre secret weapon.
CountBlack
Member
Good. Was tired of playing the guessing game after someone did a DP FADC Forward.
Yea a couple. They neutered Sagat for instance.
Yes, represented by the bolded and strikethrough lines of this list:
http://shoryuken.com/2014/05/22/cap...for-ultra-street-fighter-ivs-console-release/
A lot
Check it out here, all the changes plus what changed from the arcade version to the console one
edit: beaten
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
trying to set up this GFWL match with someone is making me glad this is going steamworks already.
Maybe I'm getting confused with all the different release dates thrown around!
From what I've understood, the arcade version with the latest changes + Decapre will be updated early June, but Japan will only get the console version (DLC or retail) on August, probably to "protect" the arcade version a few months more.
Thanks. I think that's a fair change. MK SBK for damage, LK for knockdown. I assume cr HP xx HK SBK doesn't combo.
cl HP xx HK SBK was made to work during AE in addition to a damage nerf from 270 to 200 since it's actually usable, and cl HK xx HK SBK works on some characters too, but is harder to do and does less damage. Now that HK SBK doesn't leave you in their face at +0 anymore and got a slight damage buff, it's a highly viable meterless damage option now.
FonkyByNature
Member
I think i have to borrow my brother's PS3 for this. I need my Street Fighter fix !
I really hope they have a surprise for PS4/XB1 owners. I want SF4 for PS4 !
I really hope they have a surprise for PS4/XB1 owners. I want SF4 for PS4 !
XenoRaven: I PMed you a post explaining why, but allowing MK SBK to knock down was straight up broken for Chun-Li because of what it allowed you to juggle into. This is also why HK SBK had its recovery nerfed, because before it allowed finely timed character specific combos that did even more damage. Those juggles are no longer possible, and the juggles that remain doable with LK SBK got a massive damage nerf so only a few situations remain worthwhile.
The fact you had a charge is remembered in the input buffer for 10 frames. Same reason why dash ultra and throwing a fireball on charge back, forward, back+punch works. Basically the input becomes hold down, release~HP~up+HK.
Not many did! Some Chun players were complaining that MK SBK knocking down was a nerf because it meant MK SBK Super didn't work anymore, and cheered when it was made to not knock down again. Even when I told UltraDavid about this tech and it got bounced around on twitter to see if it worked in the real game, not many realized what kind of damage potential it was offering.
MiniBossBattle
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Is that true? At least Sim gets a juggle off of EX-Flame in the corner.
Huw_Dawson
Member
No dash! When they're falling their hurtbox expands horizontally so it works as-is. The only issue if ex kikouken knocks down when it connects through another fireball. In the Ultra mod it doesn't.
CountBlack
Member
Trophy list is out. On my phone so can't really post it.
Most of them are generic except for the achievement of hitting both Ultras in a Ranked Match. Would be harder if it was one round tbh
Most of them are generic except for the achievement of hitting both Ultras in a Ranked Match. Would be harder if it was one round tbh
Weird. I thought all EX fireballs with knockdown properties retained them when going through a single fireball.
Are you back on Chun or are you still on dat T. Hawk grind?
Huw_Dawson
Member
So Chun is god-tier? Fuck.
Now everyone will complain about how overpowered she is.
She still has weak aspects to her character, but having her as a properly good character is a good thing. We will see.
Cannot wait to play Ultra. With Edition Select it is like two games in one. Vanilla Rufus gonna wreck heads.
kevo_huevo
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After catching up on UFGT, I'm definitely excited to try out Elena and Decapre. Seems like more Honda players are following Akimo's lead and eyeing Elena as a new main, and Decapre has always interested me since I like playing charge characters.