Right, but the last two chapters talk about saving the world type of stuff. If Drake had left the guy and he had been successful, how does the world end? He's a psycho yeah, but world destroyer? That never came across.No_Style said:A lot of this kind of stuff was "explained" via dialog including how.Sully got Nate out of jail
Sully 'greased palms' with butt loads of money which is A LOT if you consider that they got away with a fair bit of treasure in the first game. Sully said he went through his funds and most of Nate's
As for the villain,you see him kill someone over something petty like stealing, but its the fact that Elena is risking her life tailing this guy which sold his "evilness" for me. He also shot a wounded man to prove a point. She also shared knowledge of his murders, tortures and mutilations. The villain's "handy work" was also referenced a number of times which ratcheted up the sense of urgency a bit.
Should they have shown it all on screen? I don't think so. Allow the player to extrapolate on their own a bit which is what I did.
Jocchan said:Oh, and yesterday I had a pretty weird glitch during multiplayer.
I closed the XMB showing the chatroom by pushing the PS button, and stayed with a black XMB screen for a while (15-20 seconds, maybe more) showing only the clock, meaning the system was busy, while in the meantime matchmaking had finished and a new game was about to start.
When the XMB finally closed, I was alone in the lobby, with the other GAFfers playing :/
I had to wait till they finished to join them back, it wasn't fun.
eznark said:Right, but the last two chapters talk about saving the world type of stuff. If Drake had left the guy and he had been successful, how does the world end? He's a psycho yeah, but world destroyer? That never came across.
Been playing multiplayer? We're having a lot of fun in the evening (Euro time) with GAF partiesHaunted said:This game is spectacular.
I hate whenever someone says "save the world", even when they recognize how cliché it is.eznark said:Right, but the last two chapters talk about saving the world type of stuff. If Drake had left the guy and he had been successful, how does the world end? He's a psycho yeah, but world destroyer? That never came across.
Sure, but he isn't a world leader, he has no mechanized army, no ability to launch a large scale war. I don't know, to me that part of the story just fell flat.Dusterk said:The man idolizes the likes of Hitler and Stalin. Its pretty safe to assume what his plans would be if he were successful.
I hate whenever someone says "save the world", even when they recognize how cliché it is.
Typically, I agree, but I thought they handled it well here. Making such a hyperbolic statement after surviving a serious incident seems natural to me.I hate whenever someone says "save the world", even when they recognize how cliché it is.
Yeah,eznark said:I thought that line was handled brilliantly!
Not sure about that, honestly. Yeah, it could have been handled a lot worse, but avoiding it at all would have been much better.dark10x said:Typically, I agree, but I thought they handled it well here. Making such a hyperbolic statement after surviving a serious incident seems natural to me.
eznark said:Right, but the last two chapters talk about saving the world type of stuff. If Drake had left the guy and he had been successful, how does the world end? He's a psycho yeah, but world destroyer? That never came across.
eznark said:Sure, but he isn't a world leader, he has no mechanized army, no ability to launch a large scale war. I don't know, to me that part of the story just fell flat.
We know he has money, so he could easily hire more mercs or align himself with other radical leaders and heads of state.
eznark said:Right, but the last two chapters talk about saving the world type of stuff. If Drake had left the guy and he had been successful, how does the world end? He's a psycho yeah, but world destroyer? That never came across.
deepbrown said:If he and his army could live forever...he could destroy the world by taking over any country he wanted.
And it's what the Nazis wanted.LiK said:pretty much this. you never want to villain to succeed.
Rez said:that guy writes great articles that I don't always agree with
But even if they were successful they can't. The guardians prove that. They'd just be a bit tougher.deepbrown said:.If he and his army could live forever...he could destroy the world by taking over any country he wanted.
eznark said:Right, but the last two chapters talk about saving the world type of stuff. If Drake had left the guy and he had been successful, how does the world end? He's a psycho yeah, but world destroyer? That never came across.
Sorry...eznark said:But even if they were successful they can't. The guardians prove that. They'd just be a bit tougher.
Enough focusing on my one minor critique, this is how wars get started and quests for Shangri La begin.
I love Tom Chick's writing.
deepbrown said:It's all explained, you just weren't concentrating.Plus all of that was talked about by Schafer with the Nazis - if they could live forever etc. It is implied that the same would happen here.
Of course. I think that would have been a dope story choice, Drake saying fuck it, I want revenge. No need for a suspension of disbelief there.LiK said:whether it was really saving the world or not, Zoran was a bastard and his menc'mon guys, we were pumped to give Zoran a beat down after that moment. riiiight?hurt Elena. Drake wanted to kick Zoran's ass after she was heavily injured by Flynn's nade.![]()
If you were in a modern war and youeznark said:They can live forever but still be killed. That's my issue. Just being able to live forever is no good for ruling the world if a few explosions (or a shit ton of bullets) can kill you.
The real problem I think is that I was focusing too much instead of going along for the ride.
No, you would be mowed down via air, sea and land bombardments, as your strength is only viable pre mechanized warfare.deepbrown said:If you were in a modern war and youis because they like to base things parallel to reality, rather than science-fiction/fantasy.were invulnerable to bullets and needed explosions to kill you...and you had an army of them against soldiers who would die from one shot - your army would take over the world. Simple. No arguments about it.
The reason why "living forever" isn't in the game,
And Lazaravich has plenty of money...and sent helicopters and tanks after ONE guy. HELLO. His army would be mechanised. They weren't zombieseznark said:No, you would be mowed down via air, sea and land bombardments, as your strength is only viable pre mechanized warfare.
As to your second point...dude, zombies.
I think I'll catch up with you guys later, hoping you're still online.Wowbagger said:More Euros need to sign up for Kilgore's game on Saturday. :'(
Jocchan said:Been playing multiplayer? We're having a lot of fun in the evening (Euro time) with GAF parties![]()
You have got to be kidding me :-D RE5? Everyone's face was more like a plastic doll there and acting was horrible. I can't believe you'd complain about acting in UC2 which was pretty much stellar in comparison.quetz67 said:Especially the facial animation there sometimes looked close to photorealistic.
He didn't kill anyone there.btw. did I miss anything, a murderer and thief of national treasure released from a turkish prison after 3 month???
The organized GAF game starts this Saturday at 6 PM GMT (be careful about daylight saving times, my country is usually in GMT+1 but now is in GMT+2 because of daylight savings), but you can always find some GAFfers online-Amon- said:I'm starting to play this online with euros too. Playing with randoms has little sense, id' like to try to play with you guys. I prefer coop in any form but i'd spend some time competitive too.
My timezone is GMT+1 and i play in the everning, usually starting at 21,30. Can i join ?
Lord Error said:You have got to be kidding me :lol RE5?
Jocchan said:The organized GAF game starts this Saturday at 6 PM GMT (be careful about daylight saving times, my country is usually in GMT+1 but now is in GMT+2 because of daylight savings), but you can always find some GAFfers online![]()
I was mostly thinking about acting, and props for it all being realtime, but I also never thought the animation there was that convincing. It all seemed to have the animation typical for games nowadays (same what I see in FFXIII videos all the time) where there would be a snapshot face with an expression chosen for the scene - and then the mouth would move. Then when the camera comes back to the character, they would perhaps have a different expression, and the mouth would move again. In first UC and in second one more so, as they've definitely increased these subtleties, you can clearly see whole face move, eyebrows burrowing, cheeks moving etc. They did this best on Drake, to be sure, but it's done so well that I can't believe someone would put it down like that. And cheesy acting? Give me a break - it's perfect for the kind of story this is, and the writing makes it so fun to listen to and follow what's happening.LiK said:nope, i agree with him. RE5 had fantastic facial animation and it was all in-game as well.
Yeah, he definitely swims away. The game is full of that kind of stuff. Enemies that 'die' from being thrown down from one meter height etc. The game is supposed to be less than deadly serious, I think it's pretty clear from its whole look and feel.quetz67 said:didnt see...OK so it's like in the A-Team
vehn said:They should make it so you can't join a game for 10 minutes if you purposely quit out of one (like WoWs BG sickness), or at least put some sort of penalty
rhino4evr said:Excuse me GAF, I have a story question..i just started Chapter 23.
Why did Schafer send Drake to the ancient temple (with the Yeti's) was it just to prove to him that bad people (aka Nazi) have seeked the stone's power? Couldn't he have just told him instead of having him go through all that hustle...that was one hell of a platforming section for not a lot of results.
Lord Error said:I was mostly thinking about acting, and props for it all being realtime, but I also never thought the animation there was that convincing. It all seemed to have the animation typical for games nowadays (same what I see in FFXIII videos all the time) where there would be a snapshot face with an expression chosen for the scene - and then the mouth would move. Then when the camera comes back to the character, they would perhaps have a different expression, and the mouth would move again. In first UC and in second one more so, as they've definitely increased these subtleties, you can clearly see whole face move, eyebrows burrowing, cheeks moving etc. They did this best on Drake, to be sure, but it's done so well that I can't believe someone would put it down like that. And cheesy acting? Give me a break - it's perfect for the kind of story this is, and the writing makes it so fun to listen to and follow what's happening.
rataplein said:Lot's of animals in the game.
Birds (obviusly), the yaks in tibet... and, in Borneo i've seen a monkey in a tree, and a croc in the water... the croc kind of scare me. Didn't want to get eaten ala RE5.
rhino4evr said:Excuse me GAF, I have a story question..i just started Chapter 23.
Why did Schafer send Drake to the ancient temple (with the Yeti's) was it just to prove to him that bad people (aka Nazi) have seeked the stone's power? Couldn't he have just told him instead of having him go through all that hustle...that was one hell of a platforming section for not a lot of results.
How are these being arranged? Other than the one this Saturday (Which is too early for me anyway) I don't see any mentions of it.Jocchan said:Been playing multiplayer? We're having a lot of fun in the evening (Euro time) with GAF parties![]()
Lord Error said:I missed the monkey and the croc too :\
To convince him that the treasure is 'evil' and worth going forward to stop Lazarevic from obtaining it. When Drake saw that Schafer, a man who saved his life, was willing to kill his own men to stop them from getting it, he was convinced that there must be something really bad about that stone.
Irish said:After listening to my voice through Dollas' mic, I've realized that I sound really annoying.