Appollowexx
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Kagari said:
Question is PS3 or PS4?
IMO a three year gap and I'd put money on PS4 personally. Otherwise it'll be two years and one of the last big first party PS3 games.
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Uncharted 3 |OT| All Developers Dream, But Not Equally
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Question is PS3 or PS4?
IMO a three year gap and I'd put money on PS4 personally. Otherwise it'll be two years and one of the last big first party PS3 games.
badcrumble
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I'd rather see a three-year gap (or three and a half). UC3 was great, but not lightning in a bottle perfect like UC2, and I think a big part of that is because Naughty Dog didn't have enough time to fine-tune the game before release. Give them time to learn the PS4's architecture and create the most fleshed-out content-packed Uncharted game they possibly can.
Played up to the desert in one sitting. This game is amazing! I love the fact that firefights are less frequent, but imo. better designed and don't overstay their welcome.
Revamped melee mechanics has really improved the overall combat experience and made it more what i would expect from a Indy wannabe game. With cover, climbing, shooting and melee options in these Halo style combat situations, i think this game has some of the finest combat in the industry.
It's amazing how well designed some of these levels are. France level was first to blew my mind. Way more extensive than i expected and what a ending! Game does great job of mixing up what you are doing, more so than UC2.
The bad:
- Platforming is still on rails. This is imo. the biggest flaw of the series.
- I have a feeling that the story is going to be unsatisfying, since i feel that the game has just begun in chapter 19. Thus far too much plotting and too little interpersonal stuff.
- Aiming is messed up.
- One of the highlights of the game is not well integrated to the story. I mean what was the point of that
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- Game is probably too hard on normal. I enjoy it but i wonder how a person who doesn't play as much games would fare...
Revamped melee mechanics has really improved the overall combat experience and made it more what i would expect from a Indy wannabe game. With cover, climbing, shooting and melee options in these Halo style combat situations, i think this game has some of the finest combat in the industry.
It's amazing how well designed some of these levels are. France level was first to blew my mind. Way more extensive than i expected and what a ending! Game does great job of mixing up what you are doing, more so than UC2.
The bad:
- Platforming is still on rails. This is imo. the biggest flaw of the series.
- I have a feeling that the story is going to be unsatisfying, since i feel that the game has just begun in chapter 19. Thus far too much plotting and too little interpersonal stuff.
- Aiming is messed up.
- One of the highlights of the game is not well integrated to the story. I mean what was the point of that
Ship graveyard and cruise ship
- Game is probably too hard on normal. I enjoy it but i wonder how a person who doesn't play as much games would fare...
RoboPlato said:
Trying to top these set pieces is not what I have in mind for a new Uncharted game to be honest.
I really hope they put the set pieces aside for a second and focus on actually making the combat design more interesting. Just throwing bullet sponges in a small room for you to fight is not good at all.
mickcenary
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So, yeah. I just played for an hour and a half and the aiming is horrendous. And that's not even close to hyperbole.
Sucksman.
Sucksman.
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Deleted member 30609
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Personally, I'd like to see them try something new post UC3. Audience-fatigue is surely setting in at this point. I'd have no problems with a similar feeling game, but it's time they really shook up the general context and characters.
It could just be a game that plays like Uncharted with a new set of characters, for all I care.
But I realise this is... unlikely.
It could just be a game that plays like Uncharted with a new set of characters, for all I care.
But I realise this is... unlikely.
gundamkyoukai
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RoboPlato said:
They would have to get a bigger team if they want to do 2 IPs at the same time .
Unless they bring out the new IP first and then do UC4 in PS4 3rd\4th year .
I loved the combat design in 3. The fights were varied and there was always some kind of a power weapon or another trick in order to take out the more powerful enemies. The new melee system as also really cool, although sometimes a bit janky. If they can flesh that stuff out a bit and have some incredible set pieces and another good story 4 could be another absolute stunner of a game like 2 was. That's nothing against 3 BTW. I like 3 a lot but for different reasons than 2. 2 just was a huge surprise to everyone. I'm not sure which one I prefer yet.Massa said:
I would be cool with that too. That way they'll be really used to the new hardware and their engine will be up and running smoothly.gundamkyoukai said:
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This, in an extremely reductive nutshell, is the problem with UC3.RoboPlato said:
When dudes take two grenades to kill, suddenly grenades become a fairly single purpose device, and so on.
Square Triangle
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NVM, <3 Cheska
TacticalFox88
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Truth. Still not UC1 bullshit, but close enough.leng jai said:
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I did edit in a very simple example just after you quoted me.RoboPlato said:
In Uncharted 3, thanks in large part to a more aggressive AI and more power-enemies, there's usually a clearly optimal path through the larger fights. You need an explosive weapon, or that shotgun, or something else. Whereas in a more dynamic game, the enemies are challenging to the point where playing stupid kills you, but they also back-off JUST enough to allow you the leg room to try new things. This seems like it must be a ridiculously difficult thing to balance.
To put it VERY simply, ideally there should be more than one optimal path through a large-scale combat room, and I've been finding this to rarely be the case in UC3. I'm always suppressed into very particular alcoves, despite the large arenas.
Yeah I agree, posted earlier about it. I've come to find that most situations boil down to "yeah, get that guy you just killed's grenade launcher, but good luck getting to it with some snipers taking shots at you, five normal dudes charging you while throwing grenades, and two dudes with double barrel shot guns impervious to bullets standing in front of it. LOL"leng jai said:
Still a great game, but there are some fights that are just pure cut bullshit.
I edited my post after seeing your edit. In short, I found quite a few different options through some of the fights, especially later on.Rez said:I did edit in a very simple example just after you quoted me.
In Uncharted 3, thanks in large part to a more aggressive AI and more power-enemies, there's usually a clearly optimal path through the larger fights. You need an explosive weapon, or that shotgun, or something else. Whereas in a more dynamic game, the enemies are challenging to the point where playing stupid kills you, but they also back-off JUST enough to allow you the leg room to try new things. This seems like it must be a ridiculously difficult thing to balance.
To put it VERY simply, ideally there should be more than one optimal path through a large-scale combat room, and I've been finding this to rarely be the case in UC3. I'm always suppressed into very particular alcoves, despite the large arenas.
DevelopmentArrested
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My girlfriend is playing through it fine on Normal, nut up!FHIZ said:
Seriously though I agree some of the firefights are poorly designed and kind of cheap.
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Or, to use another example, I'll fight through a large room only to have enemies spawn on my head and basically make it impossible not to die. Then the game spawns me at a new checkpoint in an area id never been in that is clearly the optimal area for the fight, and I beat it on my first try.
It's being very picky, sure. But I do feel like it's a bit of a problem.
It's being very picky, sure. But I do feel like it's a bit of a problem.
protip: stealthing guys will generally yield weapons that are ideal for a current or upcoming situation.
Example: Chapter 20.
Example: Chapter 20.
During the beginning of the desert storm, a guy in the middle will give you a grenade launcher, with which you'll easily kill the big brute with the huge machine gun and another guy to the right a sniper rifle which for obvious reasons will help in the next section.
Kagari said:
Indeed it would be nice if Uncharted 4 was a PS4 launch title in 2013.
Still I think that Naughty Dog deserves to become a multi-title developer. They should develop two series each generation.
Btw amazing game, I got it early and tomorrow I'll get the platinum trophy.
Definetly the best in the series, it sets new standards for cinematic action adventure games, also the set pieces are amazing and the game is so balanced between exploration, puzzles, gun fights and melee while Uncharted 2 was more about gun fights.
Assuming Naughty Dog is never going back to Jak (*sadface*), I would want them to start working on a new franchise now (Zelda-like adventure game plz), probably for the PS4, and after that make Uncharted 4.
I love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog has a lot of creativity, and I would hate to see them get stuck to working on only one franchise forever.
I love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog has a lot of creativity, and I would hate to see them get stuck to working on only one franchise forever.
I think the only advice for everyone having a hard time playing on Normal is for you to put down your purse and put your big boy pants on.
Seriously, quit your bitching that the game is too hard. Go play Demon Souls and then talk to me about hard. Instead, try to play differently. Try running around more, dont stay behind one cover for too long, try different weapons etc. If you are getting spammed with grenades then...move. Point is to keep moving and try to approach it differently if its not working for you.
Seriously, quit your bitching that the game is too hard. Go play Demon Souls and then talk to me about hard. Instead, try to play differently. Try running around more, dont stay behind one cover for too long, try different weapons etc. If you are getting spammed with grenades then...move. Point is to keep moving and try to approach it differently if its not working for you.
KingK said:
Yeah Naughty Dog should really expand and continue to develop Uncharted and do some kind of Zelda-like adventure game as a new IP, it would be so awesome.
Plus my suggestion for Uncharted 4 is to use China/Japan and Afrika as settings and make cities with free exploration like in Deus Ex Human Revolution.
pharmboy044
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Just finished chapter 7, WOW! The
was amazing. I bet this chapter would have been absolutely insane in 3D.
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TacticalFox88
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First person?jett said:
BruceLeeRoy
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The Chef said:
Hahaha seriously some of you guys are so damn whiney.
jett said:
Well ND did say 1 new ip for every new console cycle. I tend to believe they might do something new and come back to Uncharted some day.