Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Really? I like it much more than the previous games.Grisby said:
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Uncharted 3: the single-player aiming problems thread [Details in Op, Please Read]
- Thread starter Wario64
- Start date
- Status
italianfreak240
Member
The first thing I noticed when I started to play was the aiming felt weird. I turned up the sensitivity to max but aiming still felt off compared to Uncharted 2 hopefully a patch will fix it soon.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I should hope Batman's fisticuffs would be better seeing as that's pretty much the entire focus of the game. Why isn't the PC version out yet? Bastards.linzin said:
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Yea my problem is most definitely the aim assist. I hate how the aim slows down and almost freezes for a sec when going by an enemy. This is the situation I keep running into.
Enemy appears. Aim into enemy's path. Crosshair slows down. Shoot enemy in the mid section as intended. Then aim the crosshair towards the targets head. Crosshair sticks to the mid section for a sec and then moves into the desired position. The target in this time has changed positions and my lined up shot will miss.
On the flipside if an enemy is in cover, moving the crosshair over target no aim assist occurs and is much easier to pick an enemy off when he pokes his head out.
I feel aim assist "sticky aim" is the biggest problem people are having. As it was not in U1 or U2.
Enemy appears. Aim into enemy's path. Crosshair slows down. Shoot enemy in the mid section as intended. Then aim the crosshair towards the targets head. Crosshair sticks to the mid section for a sec and then moves into the desired position. The target in this time has changed positions and my lined up shot will miss.
On the flipside if an enemy is in cover, moving the crosshair over target no aim assist occurs and is much easier to pick an enemy off when he pokes his head out.
I feel aim assist "sticky aim" is the biggest problem people are having. As it was not in U1 or U2.
keltickennedy
Member
I am loving the freaking game so much. That's what makes it so damn frustrating with the aiming problems. I mean... Nobody really complained about the aiming in uncharted 2. Nobody said there should be a sprint bottom. Why are they fucking tweaking something that wasn't broken?
UC3 forces you into a lot of situations where you HAVE to brawl, when the system isn't that great. It also feels like the clunky shooting controls are an intentional push towards melee, although that may not actually be ND's intention. If it were an optional thing that you could just use as you wanted, improved melee would be great. With how much they force it on you, the fact that it's much, much worse than something a lot of us have been playing a lot over the past few weeks makes the whole thing just... annoying. IMO.Jive Turkey said:
Alright, I just tested single player in UC3, then UC2, then back to UC3...and I was shocked at just how much better everything felt in UC2. We need an option to toggle off everything that was done to UC3's single player...this is nowhere near as fluid as UC2 was.
For anybody that hasn't done so yet...Play UC3 single player for a bit, get into some firefights...then go do the same in UC2...you will likely notice a huge difference in how smooth and accurate the aiming is...then go back to UC3, and you'll be like UGHHHHHH what is this.
For anybody that hasn't done so yet...Play UC3 single player for a bit, get into some firefights...then go do the same in UC2...you will likely notice a huge difference in how smooth and accurate the aiming is...then go back to UC3, and you'll be like UGHHHHHH what is this.
I just got through the first section of combat chapters. There is seriously something wrong with aiming. So far it's strange in that I only really notice it with the pistol. It is the exact same issue as with the snipers in MP only it almost seems more pronounced. The crosshair almost crawls to a halt when you are trying to aim.
The Xtortionist
Member
Gears of War 3 has the best aiming in a console TPS imo. The acceleration curve and deadzones are spot on. I wish UC3 was identical in this aspect.
WTF guys. Im pretty sure we all have the same game with the same aiming. FOR ME there has been no issues. Did I notice it was different from U2? Hell yeah its a different game why wouldn't it be. Now Im not saying that there might be a problem but when someone who actually works on the game hears your complaint and looks into the problem and tells you pretty much that nothing has changed then Im likely to believe that guy. Best of luck to you guys and hope yall can get back into the game soon.
The Xtortionist
Member
jackb2424 said:
Do you play a lot of TPS?
Lion Heart
Banned
Its so awesome running up to a guy with a shield and popping the shield with like 6 quick pistol shots, than jumping over him and taking the shield. I swear the impact of the bullets on the metal is unbelievably satisfying. You have to shoot really fast to see what I'm saying.
â Narayan
Member
Vanquish is the best, in my opinion.The Xtortionist said:
I just beat the game on normal (Loved it) and I have no desire to play it again due to the shooting parts. To give you a little perspective I have beaten Uncharted 2 multiple times and even on Crushing (I rarely play the harder difficulties in games), but I just can't play this game again.
pje122 said:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/uncharted-3-drakes-deception,64220/
avclub said:
Maybe this guy just didn't know the right words to describe aiming problems he was having, but his review is the only one that suggests something could be wrong with aiming in the game.
Regardless of whether you enjoy Vanquish or Gears more, there is something messed up here.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The Xtortionist said:
It didn't help that I've put so many hours into Gears 3, and then I come to this game, where aiming at people is actually a battle in itself to contend with!
Net_Wrecker
Member
The weird aiming is only 1 of the problems with the shooting portions of the game, honestly. The lack of bullet hit response from enemies combined with their take no cover "I'm just gon' rush" attitude amplifies the aiming issues. Doesn't break the game, but the combat becomes unnecessarily difficult, and not from actually being hard.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
That's it! I love the game so far, but the complaints about aiming are justified. There's something borked there. and it has to do with reading the diagonal input from the stick and translating it to expected aim movement. Very good example of this is if you push the stick down-left at approx 35-40 degrees angle from the vertical axis - many times cursor will just start moving almost straight downwards with just a small drift to the left. You basically have to nail the 45 degree angle for the cursor to move diagonally.ScOULaris said:
Worse still, if you move the stick down-left at approx 15-20 degree angle, it moves STRAIGHT down, no drift to the left at all. This is all observed with first weapon in the game - silenced pistol.
This makes aiming unpredictable, and it wasn't an issue in first two games.
Arne, please try to replicate this, I'm almost sure you'll agree that it illustrates the main problem pretty well. This is all about SP portion, haven't tried any MP yet.
I start to think this is worse than broken aiming in this game what the hell happened here ?Net_Wrecker said:
30% mehSnuggler said:To those of you that have finished UC2 and UC3, I'm curious to see how your hit ratio (in the stats menu) compares between both games. I'm at a measly 28% so far in UC3
Square Triangle
Member
I didn't notice it until the game got heavy in shooting, yeah, Guerilla- FIX THIS SHIT.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
OK, I'm reading this from their blog post, and clearly, this is where the problem is:
So basically, it's not identical to Uncharted 2. I get what they're saying, and while in theory it should work better, in practice it definitely works worse, especially because it doesn't register those in-between diagonals correctly, and nailing the 45 degree one is much harder now. As someone said it just feels blockier and less smooth despite their obvious intention to make it be the exact opposite of that.
This is still not a deal breaker IMO - I can adjust, but it just feels less intuitive than it did in previous game.
So basically, it's not identical to Uncharted 2. I get what they're saying, and while in theory it should work better, in practice it definitely works worse, especially because it doesn't register those in-between diagonals correctly, and nailing the 45 degree one is much harder now. As someone said it just feels blockier and less smooth despite their obvious intention to make it be the exact opposite of that.
This is still not a deal breaker IMO - I can adjust, but it just feels less intuitive than it did in previous game.
Square Triangle
Member
Zzoram said:
They seem like a reasonable development house though. Did you play Killzone 2? People didn't like the weigth delay the weapons had, and while I loved it, Guerilla patched it to offer the CoD feel to the guns and the KZ2 option was still there. And that was a feature that Guerilla used as a feature of the game because it added realism.
Let's hope ND listens.
Patapwn
Member
After playing some multiplayer the sp aiming does feel wacked as fuck. I really didn't think it was an issue before but playing the far superior online feel Im have to retract prior statements. I'm not sure what ND were going with here but it needs to be patched ASAP.
Horizontal and vertical aiming is great, it's just that anything inbetween is a dead zone
Horizontal and vertical aiming is great, it's just that anything inbetween is a dead zone
The Xtortionist
Member
ViewtifulJC said:
And it's really fucking the game for me. Getting your reticule onto the enemy should be the easiest and most painless part of any shooter.
I have been on blackout on this game and hadn't read any reviews and actually came to GAF just to see if others were hating the aiming as well. It is simply terrible, I have no idea how aiming could be so bad in an otherwise excellent game. The only way I enjoy playing right now is to shoot from the hip as much as possible because THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY AIM PROPERLY which just seems crazy. The dead zone is the problem, you have to tilt the stick so far to get any response. Also very dismayed because the shooting in Uncharted 2 was so good and this is making me not enjoy what in all other ways is an amazing game nearly as much as I should be.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Easy - just add 'traditional aiming' option and everyone's happy.Zzoram said:
They still have the six axis grenade throw option from first game, for people like me who like it - this wouldn't be any different. Let us decide for ourselves if the old method of aiming suits us better than the new one.
Besides, maybe they think it's superior, but then they need to make it more superior - there is no way for an objective person to feel what they got here is working correctly. Get silenced pistol and push the right stick down-left at a 25-30 degrees off the vertical axis, and what you see is the cursor moving almost straight down with just a tiny drift to the left. That is simply materially wrong.
Game is ridiculously enjoyable and captivating as hell, people just want them to iron out every problem that can be ironed out easily.subversus said:
The Xtortionist said:
you know there is a mouse for that. If you play on consoles you basically arguing for better autoaim which is atrocious in itself. I tried to enjoy R3 demo but couldn't because of intrusive autoaim. Aiming on consoles shouldn't be THAT easy, nobody wants the game to aim for them. The game should be designed around imprecise and wonky aiming.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
RedRedSuit said:
I've worked on a few games, including a couple published by Microsoft, and all games that I am aware of does this on consoles. Halo does it, and was the first console game (at least FPS) to do it as far as I am aware. Getting it right is tricky of course.
It's strange, I feel the hand to hand combat has improved a lot but agree that there's something a little bit strange with the aiming. Not just with the aiming though, but even sometimes when moving around. It's twitchier and faster than before. At least that's my impression. It's not stopping me from enjoying the game though.
The AV Club is out of their minds for calling the controls archaic though. Feels like attention whoring. Also don't feel this deserves its own thread compared to so many other high profile games. The controls in Dark/Demon Souls are horrible compared to any TPS yet that didn't get its own thread.
- Status