The 60fps thing is something they should be held accountable for, but I hope you're not talking about anything they showed since. They made it quite clear that they dropped 60fps, and the game actually shows mostly a visual upgrade + some aesthetic choices that likely had no effect on performance when compared to all post-60fps footage.
I do agree that ND should be scolded for that initial reveal trailer. They duped people, and it is very bad form. I'm actually disappointed in ND for it. That said, gameplay reveal wise things have actually been graphically improved from demo's to final reveal, and I do think that the cutscene and gameplay model is the same, the difference being that ND likely changed initially higher quality cutscene models, to instead the gameplay model for added consistency. Playing the game, because of the smooth transitions it's clear the cutscene and gameplay models are the same, only it's the lighting that sometimes changes.
Overall though, Drake's model looks great, even in gameplay. And yes lighting can make all the difference. Not to mention because he's always moving about, it's hard to get a tack sharp shot.
It's not just the lighting, though, but the shaders in play (SSS and textiles), the facial rig in use, and even the mesh of the face can have additional effects loaded into it for the cutscenes.
As it has been stated multiple times, The Order could have run without black bars if it didn't go for 4*MSAA and went purely with a post processing solution like Uncharted 4 (or was it 2*MSAA?). Uncharted has dithered edges due to TAA, while Order doesn't. The Order also seems to have higher AF overall.
Is that bottom one in the final product?
You bought up motion blur and implied it's something special. I merely pointed out how it's not. Anyways Uncharted is also a lot slower game than Ratchet and Clank with slower animations...a slow animation at 30FPS will look better than a fast animation at 30FPS, regardless of OMB....it has nothing to do with what ND is doing. And Killzone is a game that runs at higher framerate and has better OMB, I simply do not see how anyone could think it feels smoother..unless you are talking about judder caused in controller response due to the framerate being around 40s in SP.
I assume you're responding to my second paragraph, but either way I never implied the model itself is different. The model in the game probably differs in many ways from the concept, but as far as the gameplay and cutscenes go, I've pointed out many times that it isn't different as far as the base mesh goes. However, the facial rig in use can still be fed much less data or be swapped with something smaller for gameplay. It's just optimization.
Those shots are gorgeous, again it seems almost exactly like that cutscene gif that was from the same area that people used to share around here before release, how you guys take such good shots? when I play with Photo-mode it's closer to the bad shot someone put here to "prove" that the model is not very good.Photomode gameplay.
I'm expecting cutscene models to have better shaders, but for gameplay it looks pretty close.
People always talk about motion blur being a substitute for framerate, oh it feels smoother with MB, no, it does not. Games like 1886 and UC4 feel smoother than most 30fps games because they have less input lag than most 30fps games. Some PP filters like TAA may help towards a smoother feel, but the underlying technology here is that there is 0 frames of input lag between when you make an input and when it's registered on screen. Obviously, games such as these require more complicated engineering during the dev process to accomplish this, but in any typical 30fps TPS, you will normally have 1 to 2 to 3 frames of input lag, Even Vanquish had 3 frames of input lag.
Here's the point, OMB/MB may fool you into thinking you're playing faster because of the simulated camera movement, but it does not make your inputs faster or better, you're still playing at 25fps, so when someone comes out and says 1886 and UC4 feels better to play than other 30fps games, it's certainly not because of MB. It's because of the reduced input lag than in typical scenarios.
